If you replace the molasses with honey, then in what proportion? What are the feelings of honey and milk compared to milk and molasses?
Viscosity is not critical because we dissolve honey or molasses in milk. just honey will have to dissolve a little longer.but most importantly, what are the sensations from honey and milk? is it the same as milk and molasses? and in what proportion to add honey to milk?
Tip: the only benefit of milk in these enemas is conformity with tradition (important for some people, I know). Water works just as well and is less of a hassle to heat.
As most have said, large volumes aren't necessary to achieve the desired effect 8 ounces of each is normally plenty. It usually takes a while to kick in. As my mom used to say: "they're easy to take and impossible to hold." When it does, and this is what makes them tricky and hard to hold, I experience over-lapping peristaltic waves rather than the urge-relent-pause-urge... that I have with a regular enema. Thus the urge to expel just keeps getting stronger and stronger and never lets up until there's no way to avoid expelling. If you haven't felt this, you probably haven't held it long enough. When your tummy starts to rumble, it's a good time to head for the toilet before things really get going and do the rest of your attempted holding there.Related question, I've seen several mentions of absorbing the sugar. I realize a lot depends on holding time etc. but does anyone have an idea how much sugar is actually absorbed? The calories in 8oz of molasses are a full day's worth of food for many people!
Related question, I've seen several mentions of absorbing the sugar. I realize a lot depends on holding time etc. but does anyone have an idea how much sugar is actually absorbed? The calories in 8oz of molasses are a full day's worth of food for many people!The principal sugars in molasses are sucrose, glucose and fructose. I have not found recent studies on the absorption of sugars from the colon, but those that I have found, from a good many years ago, indicate that glucose is absorbed slowly and inefficiently if at all. The mechanisms by which it is very quickly absorbed from the small intestine do not operate in the colon. Lactose is not absorbed from the colon, which is why people who cannot hydrolyse it in the small intestine have their well-known problems. (However, the quantity of lactose in a milk and molasses enema is negligible beside the massive contribution of other sugars from the molasses.) Sucrose I understand is also not absorbed from the colon, though sucrose intolerance is rare. This leaves fructose, on which I have not found any studies.Fermentation products on the other hand are readily absorbed from the colon, including hydrogen, methane, carbon dioxide, and short-chain fatty acids.
To be absorbed from the large bowel, you either need very small molecules (typically Ions) and water, or fat soluble molecules. The short chain acids are in fact rarely absorbed, the main impact is to shift the pH of the colon, which does increase the Motility, and you don't get a lot of them except from Lactulose, where the short chain acids (Lactic, Acetic and Formic Acids from fermentation) do play an important role in those with advanced liver disease. As Ammonia Molecules diffuse across the bowel wall, they react with the acids, and the compounds formed are insoluble, so the ammonia is removed from circulation this way. The main issue with mental status in advanced liver disease is in fact ammonia levels in the blood. Normally sugars do not the reach the large bowel. Enzymes in the small bowel convert them to Glucose, which is then absorbed. Most of the sugars that do reach the colon are ones that humans lack enzymes to convert to Glucose. That is where Lactose intolerance comes from, no enzyme to convert it to Glucose, and why sugars that don't have enzyme system to convert them to Glucose usually have strong laxative properties (Lactutose, Sorbitol, Manitol etc.). In the Colon they exert osmotic pressure to increase the water content in the colon. As a result, there really isn't any need for the colon to absorb them, and it doesn't do a very good job as a result. The colon is a semi-permeable membrane and most of what moves across that membrane is in fact water. If left for any period of time, the sugars that are in the colon can be expected to undergo fermentation.
The calories in 8oz of molasses are a full day's worth of food for many people!Maybe HALF to 2/3 a day's calories depending on your size.
The feelings are the same using honey or molasses. I heat the milk and add either molasses or honey, 3 oz. of each if I use a 6 oz. bulb syringe or 4 oz. each using my 8 oz. bulb syringe. I lie on my left side and use the short children's nozzle from my Cara 4 oz. bulb syringe to feel the flow as I or my girlfriend slowly squeeze the bulb to inject the enema. Then I lie on my back listening to my tummy rumble with a stethoscope as the enema fills my rectum and colon with gas. If I'm with my girlfriend, we give each other the same enema and listen to each other's tummies. The enema should be warm, about 103 degrees and retained for 30 minutes before we squat over our enema buckets for the initial crampy, uncontrollable expulsion. Many more follow on the toilet and, in between, we prepare warm soapy enemas for each other which are given via a colon tube inserted deep inside with a quantity of 2 to 3 liters. These warm(105 degree), crampy enemas wash out the first enemas and we masturbate each other while retaining them. After that a couple of rinse enemas follow usually ending with a chamomile enema for each of us.
Thanks all for the comprehensive answers! Susie is right (as usual). 8oz of molasses is only about 640 (dietary) calories. I'd done the calculation a while back and mis-remembered what volume I'd used.
The calorie count of a Milk & Molasses (or any other enema) is essentially irrelevant.Calories are a measure of the energy released when food is digested. Digestion is essentially burning of the food to Carbon Dioxide and Water. The burning is catalyzed by digestive enzymes. In chemistry, only the start and end points matter, not the path . So it makes no difference to the calorie count if the food is digested or burnt. In fact, the calorie values of food are measured by burning.With that background, very little of any sugar put up someone's butt will be digested. The needed enzymes are in your stomach, not your colon , and enemas don't get that high.Furthermore, anyone who has had an M & M enema knows full well that it is impossible to retain more than a few minutes Essentially all the solution comes out, explosively. There is no time for anything to be digested.While it is possible for things to be absorbed from the colon, a lot of calories from a sugary enema is not one of them.If you are diabetic, you should be cautious about sugary enemas. I can't find data on the impact on blood sugar of such enemas. Be careful, rather than sorry.
I've been taking an awful/wonderful 4 quart, warm, high milk-and-molasses enema about once a year for decades: It takes me about a year to "forget" how awful they are, and remember how wonderful I feel when it is over ! I believe the amazing cathartic effect results from the milk-and-molasses combination irritating and then stripping the mucus lining from the colon - as evidenced by the large amounts of slimy mucus which is expelled. Because of this, I find it impossible take a series of M & M enemas. It's now been about a year, so with delightful anticipation I'm now getting "fully constipated" in preparation...
Post Script - on my "annual" milk and molasses high volume high enema: WHEW ! This year it was mostly awful - NOT so wonderful. I tied "half-and-half" milk/cream thinking the higher fat content might make it more powerful - which may have been the case. I tried to take five quarts with a 60 inch F30 colon tube - but it was so think and slow that after 30 minutes I had taken only about two quarts. By then (understandably) I simply couldn't hold/take any more - and blew most of it out. Then I tried to take the rest. Took about two more quarts and then had to blow that out with much cathartic agony. Truly purgative. OMG ! Then I did a warm, clear rinse and, exhausted, went to bed. Quite a colonic work-OUT. I suspect it will be more than a year before I work up enough intestinal fortitude to do another M & M...
There are a lot of misconceptions about the milk and molasses enema. In the first place, the only function of the milk is to thin the molasses so that it can flow through a tube. Its fat content is irrelevant, and water will serve the same purpose just as well with less hassle. The milk has no significant impact on the effectiveness of the enema: this is down to the sugars in the molasses. These act in at least two main ways: (1) They are fermented by the bacteria in the colon and some of the fermentation products are irritating. (2) The concentrated sugar solution draws water into the colon, increasing the volume of its contents.Suggestions: unless sticking to the traditional recipe is important to you for its own sake, forget the milk and use water instead. And if you can’t get molasses where you live, you can use treacle, golden syrup, even honey: any of these will work in much the same way.
@one_eyesExactly. Even a solution of table sugar with baking soda (Mayo Enema) has much the same effects.
The milk has no significant impact on the effectiveness of the enema: this is down to the sugars in the molasses..Can anyone confirm this statement?i.e. that water and molasses is just as effective as milk and molasses?Has anyone tried this?
Can anyone confirm this statement?i.e. that water and molasses is just as effective as milk and molasses?Has anyone tried this?I have tried both and find that substituting water for milk makes no difference. And there’s no reason to expect it to. I never bother with milk now.
My experience is that replacing milk with water does NOT change the powerful cathartic effect of molasses in an enema. Maybe it should just be called a Molasses Enema !
I just tried mixing in a cup of molasses to a four quart warm water coffee enema: this definitely increases the cathartic effect without becoming purgative like a 50/50 milk & molasses or 50/50 molasses & water enema.
What a GAS ! Unlike my large volume 50/50 molasses & milk (or water) enemas which are so purgative there's nothin left to make gas, this smaller amount of molasses gave me gas, gas, gas for many hours. Finally took a Bonners peppermint castile soap enema to end it. Whew.
I'd also like to try receiving this one day. It sounds very intense. A double balloon nozzle seems necessary. I think I'll wait until I find an experienced giver.
What a GAS ! Unlike my large volume 50/50 molasses & milk (or water) enemas which are so purgative there's nothin left to make gas, this smaller amount of molasses gave me gas, gas, gas for many hours. Finally took a Bonners peppermint castile soap enema to end it. Whew.The milk and molasses make the bacteria explode and that is why it is so effective when nothing else works. You will have gas for hours without a rinse or two.
I have experienced a number of self-administered M&M enemas (see my posts in this thread from years ago) and they are not for the faint of heart. I usually use 12 ounces of whole milk and 12 ounces of blackstrap molasses warmed to body temperature. The results are violently effective in turning my colon inside out. The key to success is to hang the bag as high as possible. Otherwise the viscous fluid will take forever to flow into the recipient's colon and evacuation will be inevitable before all the mixture is given.
Came here looking to try the one enema recipe I haven’t tried on my list now I’m part curious and part scared and wondering if I need a commode next to me haha.
@EnemamikeIt would be a wise precaution. Look at it this way:If you have a commode bedside and don't need it, you can put the clean commode away after you're done on the toilet.If you don't have a commode bedside and the M&M enema works more quickly and/or more powerfully than you expect or the retention nozzle leaks or is expelled, you will have to clean up a sticky, stinky (and it will be stinky), poopy mess out of your bedding, carpet, floor, and maybe walls.With an M&M enema, there is no such thing as "letting out a little bit". Once you start to lose it, everything in your bowel will come out in one big rush.
I know a M & M enema is a powerful and for some wonderous thing.I believe around 1920 / 1930 they were used in hospitals when soapsuds was considered too mild to make happen what the nurse wanted to happen.What I've always wondered is who ever thought of it in the first place? Can't think it happened by accident. Whoever got the idea and decided to give it a try must have been amazed, pleased, and delighted with the results!
The question seems to have been asked before:https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/245559but I can't access the article. The origins go back to the 1850s at least.
I have done the m&m enema only once. Lots of cramping and gas, very uncomfortable and then explosive release. This enema is not for the faint of heart.
The question seems to have been asked before: ----- The origins go back to the 1850s at least.Sean, thanks for this link. Fascinating how this enema recipe goes back and may have originated in India. Given that it was used in hospitals I suppose thousands, tens of thousands, of people (who knows, more than a hundred thousand?) have experienced this potent mixture.