Milk and Molasses Enema

I had a nurse friend in SE Virginia that said her hospital still used the M&M enema in the late 1990s. She said they had to order the mixture from the cafeteria kitchen.

A related enema, milk and sugar (lait sucré), was in use in medical practice in France in the 1700s. This Google search will find relevant hits while filtering out other stuff: "lavement" "lait sucré" -porno -vidéo

I have only been given an m and m enema and that was in the hospital it didnt work so the nurse gave me a soapsuds enema only thing i got out of it was sticky buns lol

I recently gave my self a large (2 quart) Milk & Molasses enema thinking it would provide more stimulation than the soapy ones I prefer. Warming the mixture to just above body temperature and injecting the Caramel colored mixture via my long fr30 colon tube, I didn't have to wait long. The results were so powerful & immediate that I expelled much of it on the bathroom floor before being able to move to the toilet. While I was hoping for the promised, "gassy cramps" I couldn't hold enough in me for the desired results.

Short of using an inflatable nozzle, is there any way to retain M&M enemas for longer periods? Also, has anyone heard of another old enema recipe adding Turpentine to Soap Suds?

I wouldn't use Turpentine if I were you....that is rightly a thing of the past

. . . . .has anyone heard of another old enema recipe adding Turpentine to Soap Suds?

YES, the turpentine enema recipe is on page 491 of the 24th edition of Dorland's Medical Dictionary I have from 1965.

The turpentine enema recipe calls for one pint of soap suds mixed with two ounces of olive oil and one ounce of turpentine.

I'll pass on this one.

Has anybody seen the MSDS for turpentine?

Here it is in case anybody needs to be dissuaded.

http://www.kleanstrip.com/uploads/documents/GGT69_SDS-LL1901.pdf

Electra, if you give yourself a six or eight ounce m and m enema using a bulb syringe, you will hear your colon fill up with gas but you won't start to feel the urge to go during the first twenty minutes. You need to retain this enema for a total of thirty minutes and the last ten minutes the urge to go will grow and you will get temporary relief as the gas accumulated in your rectum leaves it filling up your colon. The final five minutes are the hardest and I press a washcloth again my anus to help me hold it in. Wait until an urge to go passes before getting up to expel it as you will not be able to stop it once you start to expel this enema. I suggest you start with a six ounce of even a four ounce m and m enema before trying the eight ounce one. Enjoy!

Short of using an inflatable nozzle, is there any way to retain M&M enemas for longer periods?

You could try the largest buttplug you can get in. Good luck though. I gave one once but had her bent over in the tub to start. Turns out it was a good idea. Once you lose it there is no stopping it.

Milk & Molasses enemas were traditionally given with a colon tube inserted high... at least a foot. Many older nursing books say this. In fact, they almost universally list the stuff required as:

Irrigating can

Rubber hose

Glass coupling

Fr 30 rectal or colon tube.

Given that way, the pressure at your anus is much less, aiding retention until the enema is fully working, and this enema must be retained a while to really work fully. Also, given high, the poo is pushed down and out, rather than upwards as with low rectal administration.

Frankly, giving an M&M with the standard enema nozzle is nearly pointless. It will be very hard to hold, is likely to result in a messy accident, and won't really clean someone out.

If the urge is immediate, it's being given incorrectly.

I'm always interested in all the different fluids people will inject up their bottoms and M & M sounds more potent than most. Not sure why anything more than ivory soap is needed. Although, those who just use warm water probably wonder why suds are needed at all. If I did go the M & M route, enema not candy, I'd sure want a butt plug like Moppys jalopy suggests, but I don't know I'd want the largest. If you'll forgive the pun, Moppys jalopy, I think that would be a stretch for me.

Linda

Sorry for delay have a lot going on in personal life etc will be trying very soon

Can confirm, M&M is quite an incredible experience.

You really need to plan it out so you can stay near a toilet for 30 min or so afterwards. Even after you think it's all out, the waves will keep on coming.

I find that making the solution a bit warmer than usual helps tremendously.

Your body positioning will also impact how much and how quickly you can take one of these. Head down, on your elbows and put your bottom up as high as you can. You'll get a rush of solution in there and might be able to take a few more ounces or keep it in a few seconds longer than other positioning.

With a Milk and Molasses enema, you don't need more than 16 Oz of solution... 8 Oz Milk; 8 Oz Molasses. That amount of solution, given high, will certainly cause dramatic cramping, usually a lot of gas, and a completely unresistable urge to poo, even in the most constipated person. The person getting the enema will completely lose control and will almost certainly be on the toilet for a half hour or more. This enema is often used for drug induced constipation and is far more potent than a Fleet.

It is pointless to try and get a larger quantity into someone. The only result will be a sticky mess.

How do you get a tube very far up someone who is really constipated? I've seen this not only here, but as a suggestion from a friend to help when the enemas are really needed, but it seems like I get the tube buried in stool or folded up in the rectum when I try.

@moliere

You have to be gentle and go slowly.

First, you want to use the appropriate size tube, usually Fr 24 to Fr 28... smaller will kink too easily, bigger is a bit harder to get in. Use a red r8ubber or vinyl tube as thyey are stiff enough to go in well. Lube the first 4-5 inches of the tube with Vaseline, not K-Y, because K-Y washes off too easily.

Spread the persons butt cheeks and insert the tube a few inches, pointed a bit to the side. The idea is to insert the tube between the poo and the colon wall. Gently and slowly advance the tube twisting it a bit and if you feel a barrier, withdraw the tube an inch or two and try to advance again. When the tube is in about 8", start the flow and continue to advance the tube. An M&M works best when given 8" to 12" up someone.

It's not really easy to self-insert a colon tube high, but can be done. Also, if you have help, consider the knee-chest position. IMO, it's the best position to get a tube in high, but is not really easy or comfortable.

If you'd like a really thorough cathartic clean out, a high volume (two to six quarts) warm milk and molasses enema is just what the doctor ordered (or should have ordered). I just "enjoyed" two quarts held 30 minutes - OMG that's a CLEAN OUT! Stay close to the toilet to avoid a mess to clean up.

Who knows what can replace molasses? Can sugar syrup be used?

Honey works well too...

Carlienet How does a honey enema work? What is the mixture? Does it make your bag and or tubing hard to clean?

Milk with frozen bananas is also a fun trial !

Molasses is simply a convenient form of sugar for the enema solution. You might want to consider Karo syrup (light, not dark) as a substitute if molasses is not available. Karo syrup is a corn sugar derivative where Molasses is a product of sugar cane.

Just as a side note, circa 1900 "dark Karo syrup" was mixed with infant's milk to induce laxation. While both "light (clear) Karo syrup" and "dark (brown tint) Karo syrup were both available it was dark Karo that was noted for producing the laxative effect. Over the ensuing years the production processes reduced the laxative effects and today clear Karo syrup is used in place of dark Karo syrup when laxation is the objective.

Keep in mind that while molasses and Karo syrups are sold as food stuffs they both can carry bacteria which can stir up a riot in the GI tract as neither is sterile.

How do m&m work to induce such effect? What does the sugar do? Why milk and not water?

I believe the bacteria that occurs naturally in the milk feeds on the sugar in the molasses. The result is gas given off, CO2 I believe, which forces the evacuation of the bowels. It literally is a "blow out." 😃

I see. It's like giving you one big fart… There are CO2 suppositories that have an effect like that.

Pretty much any sugar in the colon is laxative. The more sugar, the more powerful the effect.

Sugar can get into your colon a couple of ways... by mouth or by enema.

If you eat sugars, some are digested, some are not, and some are partly digested by some people. I think Sucsose and Glucose can be digested by pretty much everyone. Lactose and Fructose digestion varies with individuals... some are intolerant to those sugars and drinking milk or orange juice swiftly causes urgent, gassy pooing. Some sugars are not digested virtually at all. For example Sorbitol and Lactulose, and both are used as laxatives. Lactulose is often given to kids who habitually withhold poo, disguised in orange or prune juice. Resistance is utterly futile and dramatic results follow within a few hours.

If a sugar is given by enema, digestion is not an issue. Pretty much any sugar is powerfully laxative. Ordinary white table sugar works (The Mayo Clinic Enema), as does molasses, honey, Karo Syrup and even sugary foods like marshmallows. The sugar can be dissolved in a quart or two of warm water if a large volume enema is desired, but an ounce or two of honey, etc, can be given with a small syringe. Strong results can usually be expected within a half hour.

Just a wild guess here. I suspect the sugar content in the colon and stool is very low and the sudden massive increase in sugar allow the bacteria to bloom. Bacterial growth produces gas, lots of sugar, lots of gas.

You can obtain the same result with a laxative called Sorbitol. It is used mostly by pharmacies as an artificial sweetener for liquid medications to mask the bitter taste. In larger amounts than used for sweetening it acts as a laxative. The oral dose varies from 30 mL to 150 mL of a 70% w/w concentration. That is generally the concentration provided in bottles. It will produce laxation in 30 to 60 minutes at higher doses. If you use the maximum dose of 150 mL expect an explosive enema like bowel movement. Citrate of Magnesia and even a Miralax prep does not produce the rapid onset and nearly continuous laxation of Sorbitol.

It is also used as a retention enema where the administered solution concentration is reduced to 30% - 35% in a 120 mL water-sorbitol solution. That is the same amount as in a Fleet enema, but the result as a retention enema is much more effective and does not produce the caustic experience of the saline solution.

@Victoria1951

What you say about Sorbitol small volume enemas also applies to Lactulose. Sometimes the meds given during surgery can cause severe post-op constipation. This happened to me some years ago. The doctor ordered a Lactulose enema, which turned out to e 300 ml of Lactulase solution plus 700 ml of normal saline.The nurse gave it with me lying on my side on several Chux pads with the tube of a disposable enema bag inserted very high... at least a foot... and told me to hold it as long as possible then just let go. Over the next half hour the urge grew from nothing to impossible to resist and I pood on the pad. The nurse returned and put fresh pads under me and the urgent poo was repeated several more time during the following couple of hours. Sugar containing enemas are somewhat slower to work, but the results are very powerful.

Who knows what can replace molasses? Can sugar syrup be used?

Any similar product, whatever is available in your country. Treacle, golden syrup, honey—they are all essentially concentrated solutions of mixed sugars. Or you can make your own: prepare a concentrated solution of glucose or fructose in water, or even table sugar, though this takes a while to work. — The milk is not important, water is more convenient.

@one_eyes

In fact, there is another, less well known, sugar based enema, called the Mayo (after the Clinic, not the bread spread), and is composed of table sugar and baking soda The baking soda alters the colonic pH to make it more favorable for the microcritters to digest the sugar, producing the strongly laxative compounds. Milk may have the same function in an M&M enema.

Most all of the sugar containing enemas take roughly a half hour to really get things moving, but when they really kick in the recipient is going to cramp strongly and poo a lot. Resistance is absolutely futile. I've read they are the go-to treatment in ERs for severe constipation from opiates

The baking soda alters the colonic pH to make it more favorable for the microcritters to digest the sugar, producing the strongly laxative compounds. Milk may have the same function in an M&M enema.

I have tried adding sodium bicarbonate to a sugar solution but I can’t say I notice any difference. I agree about the half-hour required for things to get properly moving.