HPV Vaccine

@JR3 LOL! Did you see the flat earth people all PROVING their theory because of the recent eclipse!! They had videos pointing out that with a light bulb as the sun, and a ping pong ball as the moon, that the shadow made from the moon on a further distant object (basketball earth) is ALWAYS LARGER than the object (moon) itself! So how come the eclipse path was only 73 miles wide?!?!? HHHmmmm???? All you Mr. Smarty Pants astronomists and astrophysicists!??!?!?

The flat earth idiots say the moon is 70 miles wide and the shadow CANNOT be larger than the object casting the shadow. They also don't understand the umbra and penumbra causing the shadow to be the size that it is for the total eclipse. The "eclipse path" was NOT 70 miles wide. Only the total eclipse was 70 miles wide. They also don't understand why the shadow moved west to east--dumbasses--because they don't understand the motions of the earth and moon.

I have had all my girls vaccinated for everything . I am not a medicine toting mom that dishes out otc meds for every little sniffle I am quite the opposite . Unless its causing quite discomfort or pain suck it up you will survive .

Vaccinations are made to keep children healthy and alive . Period !

I really do not understand how anyone , especially in this day and age can refuse to have their children vaccinated . Makes zero sense to me and I will refrain from giving my honest opinion of said parents .

I have 5 daughters , the hpv vaccine was not around for my oldest . She was 21 when she had her first sexual encounter . She tested positive for hpv . She goes and will forever go for countless tests and procedures . Wouldnt wish that on anyone .

When the vaccine was first offered to my next oldest I think she was 12 at the time and I really did not know much about it . I looked at our family peditrician , who has two daughters of his own and asked him if he had his girls vaccinated, he said absolutely .

Now for all of those who are against vaccines because of the nonsensical bs that there hear ask yourselves this .

If there was a bigger risk getting the vaccine than not, would drs themselves have their children vaccinated ?

I am forever amazed at some of the " conspiracy theories" out there for goodness sakes you would think there are a bunch of scarecrows running amok 😉

"If there was a bigger risk getting the vaccine than not, would drs themselves have their children vaccinated ? "

Who has never seen a dr telling his patients to stop smoking but being a smoker himself?

Who has never seen a dr telling his patients to stop smoking but being a smoker himself?

But @Anita_P to have a smoking habit is an addiction and I do not think any doctors who smoke do not know that really it is bad for them. It is a bit different to deciding about getting a vaccination or not, it is just not the same sort of thing.

"If there was a bigger risk getting the vaccine than not, would drs themselves have their children vaccinated ? "

Who has never seen a dr telling his patients to stop smoking but being a smoker himself?

True @Anita_P, but @Amethyst has a very good point as well.

But also, this was for the doctors' CHILDREN! People may ignore healthy habits for themselves even if they know better, but parents (usually) never blow off health concerns when it comes to their children.

Anyone who has any medical education at all will tell you the conspiracy theorists and "flat earth" anti-vaccine crowd have NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF that vaccines cause widespread problems! On the other hand, there are boatloads of evidence that (other than occasional allergic reactions) these vaccines save lives and cause NO health issues! As for causing autism: please post links to reputable scientific studies backing this claim. Fact: to date, NOBODY has determined the cause of autism!

Well, it certainly is true that vaccines do kill people. It is rare though and for most people the benefit overweighs the risk.

I would wonder how a doctor would feel if it was their child that had a fatal reaction.

I would wonder how a doctor would feel if it was their child that had a fatal reaction.

I know some women who miscarried and blame themselves for their child dying. So many families are broken up when a child is kidnapped, or dies from an infection, or an inherited disease, or any reason really. Your child dying from a vaccine would be no different. You'd feel guilt, and horror, and probably, at least for a moment, want to die too.

But what if they got the disease so easily vaccinated against, and died from that? You'd feel just as terrible, if not worse.

This isn't a debate about how shit you'd feel if your child died, it's how to keep our children alive and well.

My friend brought her two daughters to their family pediatrician where the girls on each occasion for the series, not only received buttocks injections each time, but prior to them when their vitals were checked, had their temperatures taken in their bottoms every time also. My friend said she wasn't sure which was more traumatic, the shots or the temperature takings, though in the end (no pun intended) she believed the shots were essential and wanted her girls protected.

had their temperatures taken in their bottoms every time also.

Where in the US was this? I used to work in healthcare and nobody seems to take rectal temps anymore, unless they are babies.

had their temperatures taken in their bottoms every time also.

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Where in the US was this? I used to work in healthcare and nobody seems to take rectal temps anymore, unless they are babies.

Imaginations sometimes run wild.

I do find it odd that it is now recommended for men and women up to mid 20s, but not for older types. Wonder why?

I do find it odd that it is now recommended for men and women up to mid 20s, but not for older types. Wonder why?

My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that the vaccine was only tested in those certain age groups and then when it was actually produced, it was only approved for the people in the age groups it was tested on.

Imaginations sometimes run wild.

@SwitchableSusie yes they do!! Not only do you not need a temp check to receive a vaccine, it is injected into the shoulder, not the buttocks! C’mon people...

As for the age thing, my understanding is that this vaccine does absolutely NOTHING for someone who has already been exposed, so that is why its recommended only for very young (12-14) yr old children who have little chance of being sexuallly active. It only takes ONE act of contact to get the virus, and it doesn’t even have to be intercourse, so earliest is best!

Even if you are extremely low risk up to this point? I've only had sexual contact (intercourse, serious kissing, playing around - yes, I know, but I was a late bloomer) with only one person, my wife.

Though I guess that the big reason they give it to men is so that we don't pass the virus on to the ladies, who are at risk for cervical cancer.

In short yes why would you not.

@moliere

I do find it odd that it is now recommended for men and women up to mid 20s, but not for older types. Wonder why?

I suspect by that age most young men have had sexual intercourse , and so if exposed to HPV, the vaccine would be useless. It protects against new HPV infections; it does not cure existing HPV infections or disease. It is most effective when given before a person’s first sexual contact .

In fact the CDC recommends the HPV vaccine for all boys ages 11 or 12, and for males through age 21, who have not already received all three doses. The vaccine is also recommended for gay and bisexual men, and men with compromised immune systems through age 26, if they did not get fully vaccinated when they were younger.

Times have changed and now its common to have more than one sexual partner , so chances of contracting and passing it on are much more higher .

This is one in four Americans, making HPV the most common sexually transmitted infection in the US. About 14 million people in the US become newly infected with HPV each year. In the UK, HPV is present in one in three people and 90% of individuals will come into contact with some form of the virus in their lifetimes taken from https://www.analcancerfoundation.org/about-hpv/hpv-facts-and-figures/

All three of my kids got the vaccine.

If my future partner is STD free and a virgin I see no point in needing one. Especially as I'm waiting for marriage or may take the celibate route.

How this has become such a hot potato is beyond reason. Get vaccinated and make sure your loved ones do if in the recommended age group! This is too important to turn into a debate.

How this has become such a hot potato is beyond reason. Get vaccinated and make sure your loved ones do if in the recommended age group! This is too important to turn into a debate.

Because no one wants to get cancer and their is fear that the vaccine is new and not tested enough and perhaps subject to manufacturing errors that it may cause what is is supposed to prevent. There are drugs that get recalled for unintended negative consequences and some drugs that literally have a second life because of unintended consequences.

Don't believe me, got to https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls/ and use the "drugs" filter and see for yourself. The 16 pages of recalled drugs only goes back to 2016. As for drugs having a second life because of unintended consequences, perhaps you have heard of the blood pressure drug called Minoxidil? But blood pressure did not make it famous... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoxidil

Give the HPV Vaccine a couple generations and if it has a clean track record, I think you will see the politics around it start to die down except with the hard core conspiracy theorists

There are drugs that get recalled for unintended negative consequences and some drugs that literally have a second life because of unintended consequences.

Let's not forget good old viagra which was supposed to treat hypertension and angina.

If my future partner is STD free and a virgin I see no point in needing one. Especially as I'm waiting for marriage or may take the celibate route.

@caresabouthealth Please reconsider. The chances that you remain a virgin until marriage are slim. It’s fine if you want to, but based on statistics it is very unlikely. The chances that your future betrothed is a virgin is very VERY slim! And given that roughly 80% of adults get HPV and most never know about it as there are no symptoms, it is REALLY smarter to get vaccinated. Talk to your doctor.

Because no one wants to get cancer and their is fear that the vaccine is new and not tested enough and perhaps subject to manufacturing errors that it may cause what is is supposed to prevent. There are drugs that get recalled for unintended negative consequences. . .

Give the HPV Vaccine a couple generations and if it has a clean track record, I think you will see the politics around it start to die down except with the hard core conspiracy theorists

@reggind That may be, and its sad. I’m not in the medical field but I bet vaccines have a much lower rate of injuries, side effects and recalls as compared to other medications. 30,000 people each year who get HPV cancer sure wish they had the option of this vaccine when they were young. Given that you only have ONE chance to get it before sexual activity starts, I think its foolish not to..

If we gave the polio, MMR and chicken pox vaccines a few generations to be ‘proven’, some of us would have died of a completely preventable disease, along with MILLIONS of other children, needlessly. Gardisil was developed in 1991 and approved in 2006, it’s been around long enough.

It’s a real shame that one stupid completely falsified, bogus, FAKE NEWS ‘study’ back in the 90s, along with idiot conspiracy theories are making vaccine science, experts and knowledge the ‘enemy.’

@caresabouthealth said

If my future partner is STD free and a virgin I see no point in needing one. Especially as I'm waiting for marriage or may take the celibate route.

You are going to believe that your future husband will be a virgin regardless of what he tells you? ? ? ?

Please pardon me while I laugh.

As far as your being a virgin when you get married is concerned, you are young and may well change you mind when your vagina starts saying FUCK ME!

I am not necessarily advocating the use of vaccines to prevent HPV.

@switchablesusie @CJ1999 Okay, okay I'll reconsider. Even get my abstinent till marriage brother on board. Future partners could have it and I should not risk it plus there is the problem of HPV causing infertility.

@caresabouthealth , you cant go back and get it once you already have sex. I am going to be a bit dramatic here and maybe a far fetched example but what if that “ perfect” special person you decide to marry lied to you and told you he was a virgin? For whatever reason. So what if you get vaccinated and didnt need to ? No harm done. The harm of not getting vaccinated could be deadly.

In February of this year, after a lengthy convo with a dear friend ( I met here)he urged me to go for a pap and gyno check. It had been at least 4 years since I had one. I have been with my husband for almost 26 years and him being my only sexual partner except for one other in the last year. I dont know for sure if my husband has ever cheated, I suspect he did many many years ago and around the same time I did for the first time last year.

My pap came back abnormal. I was at first not alarmed as it has happened in the past due to having a retroverted uterus and a cervix that is way up high they do not always retrieve enough of cells. I got called in for a second pap. The dr was much more diligent and made sure she got a sufficient sample. I was literally shocked when that pap came back with not only abnormal cells but also HPV positive.

So many thoughs have ran through my head. The when and who are really moot points right now.

While I know we are all adults and choose whether or not to use condoms I do feel terrible guilt that I may have passed it to someone else.

I have since had 3 biopies. The drs were confident that my mid grade cancer cells were only on the surface of my cervix. One surgery was unsuccessful at removing all the cells( due to my challenging cervix position) .

After a long stressful wait and unforseen dr obligations I finally have my up coming appt Friday with an Oncologist I was referred to.

What my next steps will be are known yet but my point is that if I would have been given the option of the vaccine I sure as heck would have taken it.

As far as negative side effects of it, I urge of you anti vaccine people to do your own research from reputable sources.

Since my surgery, becuase of some funky alarming discharge that I was not expecting nor prepared for I joined a support group for women with cervical cancer. I can tell you there are an alarming amount of women that are suffering from far worse than I have right now and thousands that die from cervical cancer. Not all are due to not being vaccinated as there are different strains just like every thing else but how many could have been saved ?

If you look at numbers of complications from vaccines ( any) vs numbers that die or get sick from not getting them there lies the real answers. The risks far outweigh the consequences.

@bridgette That hit me really hard. You will be in my prayers. It really is a good idea to get the vaccine.

My thoughts are with you Bridgette. I am sorry that has happened to you.

I highly disagree with the statement that once you have sex it's too late to be vaccinated for HPV. Doc tested me a few years into our relationship and I tested neg for it so he then gave me the vaccine and he took a dose too.

The only time it's too late is if you already have HPV.

Don't be idiots, take the vaccine. Take care of yourself and each other.

Mashie

So my question is: Is there one vaccine that is good for males and females? I have read a little about this and it seems most consequences and symptoms are female related. Does it work for both?

YES, it works for both.

Most of the benefits are female. but it also helps prevent genital warts in both sexes.