Castration

I agree with Switchablesusie, I think this thread is pure fabrication to get a reaction from people. I cannot possibly believe a healthy male would choose to be castrated without a medical problem involved that would justify such action. I can only think that the girlfriend really wants to be with another woman or the boyfriend is really considering a sex change to even consider castration for no medical reasons to do so.

I found the thread and the links to be interesting. I am certainly NOT considering any C&B torture myself, but I find it interesting that males are "into" having this done. I found the sterile techniques to be far from adequate. There could be some major medical complications from these procedures. If one doesn't appreciate a thread, don't open it.

Then I came across this

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/spiritual-leader-allegedly-manipulated-400-men-into-removing-testicles-to-be-closer-to-god-10078095.html

Not something that I would try even if ordered by a spiritual leader.

I can't tell you how much better I feel since I chose to be surgically emasculated three years ago. I went through months of counseling before making the final irrevocable decision to not only have my testicles removed, but my penis and prostate as well. I have less stress, tension and anxiety now that all male sexual desires have been permanently removed.

I chose a female surgeon, which gave me great comfort knowing she would know how to completely remove all male sexual desires from my body. My only regret is that I chose to have a general anesthetic instead of an epidural. Even though my surgery was recorded on video, I would have loved to have watched live as she carefully removed my penis and testicles, and carved away my prostate.

I have a very hard time believing that a surgeon would castrate anyone to relieve them of "sexual urges". Yes such surgeries are used in transgender individuals but for urges? And why the prostate? It does nothing to increase masculinity and is not visible. Also why no construction of female genitals? I'm very skeptical.

I have a very hard time believing that a surgeon would castrate anyone to relieve them of "sexual urges". Yes such surgeries are used in transgender individuals but for urges? And why the prostate? It does nothing to increase masculinity and is not visible. Also why no construction of female genitals? I'm very skeptical.

Me too, especially on someone in their mid sixties.

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I can't tell you how much better I feel since I chose to be surgically emasculated three years ago. I went through months of counseling before making the final irrevocable decision to not only have my testicles removed, but my penis and prostate as well. I have less stress, tension and anxiety now that all male sexual desires have been permanently removed. . . . .

You couldn't have had that much sexual desire removed if you searched and found us here.

Especially since he admitted he would be titillated by seeing the procedure. The meter is on.

^^^^ That would have been the LAST time he would have been titillated and succumbed to an urge! 😁

Well its a one way trip...later you cant put em back on with uhu glue

Yes, I could have opted for chemical treatments, but quite frankly, the idea of undergoing a surgical procedure fascinated me. Being able to look at myself in the mirror and see a more feminine look was as close as I needed to get to becoming a true transgender female. My surgeon was doing research on various ways to treat males with unhealthy sexual urges, including surgical solutions, and I was at that point in my life where having normal male sexual relations was no longer important to me. My surgeon described in great detail what would be involved. She described everything she would do to me in excruciating detail. Her training was in urology and she had performed a number of male to female transgender procedures, so she had the right experience. Since this was part of a research grant she had received, there was no cost to me; however, I had to agree the procedure would be performed in the hospital's surgical amphitheater so other medical professional could observe. Only other requirement was I had to come back every three months to answer questions. I had a number of meetings with her and several psychiatrists, and I pondered whether this was right for me for months. I had the option to change my mind right up until the procedure; even the prep was designed to trigger second thought, if I had any. Two young attractive nurses gave me several high enemas, followed by prostate massage. Then my last ejaculation, which they observed. As I went through each step, they reminded me that within hours I would no longer have a penis or testicles, never experience an orgasm ever again, and have no evidence that I was once a male. I was determined, so I let the surgery happen.

Removal of the prostate was a requirement of the research, and since its function was to provide semen to carry sperm, I would no longer need it. In addition, I would never have to worry about ever getting prostate cancer.

I'm even more skeptical than I was before. The nurses did prostate massage on you and observed your ejaculation? I don't think so. What sort of research grant? Dr Mengele? This is truly improbable. I think this is fabricated out of whole cloth. I simply don't think that any hospital's surgical review board would let this happen. As for the prostate removal, that isn't even done in male to female transgender surgery. My BS meter is pinned. Pure fantasy.

Has anyone noticed that the OP has not posted anything since starting this thread over two years ago.

I can't tell you how much better I feel since I chose to be surgically emasculated three years ago. I went through months of counseling before making the final irrevocable decision to not only have my testicles removed, but my penis and prostate as well. I have less stress, tension and anxiety now that all male sexual desires have been permanently removed.

I chose a female surgeon, which gave me great comfort knowing she would know how to completely remove all male sexual desires from my body. My only regret is that I chose to have a general anesthetic instead of an epidural. Even though my surgery was recorded on video, I would have loved to have watched live as she carefully removed my penis and testicles, and carved away my prostate.

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Yes, I could have opted for chemical treatments, but quite frankly, the idea of undergoing a surgical procedure fascinated me. Being able to look at myself in the mirror and see a more feminine look was as close as I needed to get to becoming a true transgender female. My surgeon was doing research on various ways to treat males with unhealthy sexual urges, including surgical solutions, and I was at that point in my life where having normal male sexual relations was no longer important to me. My surgeon described in great detail what would be involved. She described everything she would do to me in excruciating detail. Her training was in urology and she had performed a number of male to female transgender procedures, so she had the right experience. Since this was part of a research grant she had received, there was no cost to me; however, I had to agree the procedure would be performed in the hospital's surgical amphitheater so other medical professional could observe. Only other requirement was I had to come back every three months to answer questions. I had a number of meetings with her and several psychiatrists, and I pondered whether this was right for me for months. I had the option to change my mind right up until the procedure; even the prep was designed to trigger second thought, if I had any. Two young attractive nurses gave me several high enemas, followed by prostate massage. Then my last ejaculation, which they observed. As I went through each step, they reminded me that within hours I would no longer have a penis or testicles, never experience an orgasm ever again, and have no evidence that I was once a male. I was determined, so I let the surgery happen.

Removal of the prostate was a requirement of the research, and since its function was to provide semen to carry sperm, I would no longer need it. In addition, I would never have to worry about ever getting prostate cancer.

So now it isn't because of excessive male sexual desire, it's because you are having sexual reassignment surgery to become a female.

What about having female sexual urges or urges of any kind and as you said never having an orgasm again?

MONTHS of counseling ISN'T what would be done prior to this type of surgery. Even Bruce Jenner kept his genitalia.

I seriously doubt any hospital/university review board would allow such procedures to be performed on a man with as you called them, "unhealthy sexual urges."

I have so many questions about this and not enough time right now to put them all down, but let me just say that this recollection should go in the fantasy section.

This DOES make for a great short story which I saw from reading your three year old posts that you have well underway!!

My final question, at least for now, is what kind of "male urges" were you talking about? Homicidal or pedophile urges? By the way I once saw a patient who came in after sexually molesting his daughter for the second time. He cut off his own penis and ran it through a disposal so that it couldn't be reattached. After the urologist put a catheter in and repaired what he could, the cops took him off to jail. Was that what you were talking about?

It was never homicidal or pediphile actions or urges, and it never caused me to take any actions. Instead, it was always me imagining what it would be like to give an attractive male or female I just happened to see at the gym or grocery store a massage and enema, or forcing them to submit to anal sex. Sometimes it was imagining what it would be like to have what I thought might be dominate female "capture" me, shave me, give me multiple enemas, rectal exams, threaten me with castration, then rape me with a strap-on. Day after day it was all I could think about, and I wanted to end the thoughts BEFORE they led to actions. I must say the surgery worked! I hardly ever think about this until I check into Zity every now and then to see whether others have the same " problem".

It was never homicidal or pediphile actions or urges, and it never caused me to take any actions. Instead, it was always me imagining what it would be like to give an attractive male or female I just happened to see at the gym or grocery store a massage and enema, or forcing them to submit to anal sex. Sometimes it was imagining what it would be like to have what I thought might be dominate female "capture" me, shave me, give me multiple enemas, rectal exams, threaten me with castration, then rape me with a strap-on. Day after day it was all I could think about, and I wanted to end the thoughts BEFORE they led to actions. I must say the surgery worked! I hardly ever think about this until I check into Zity every now and then to see whether others have the same " problem".

Nobody has that "problem."

LOTS of people fantasize about raping or being anally raped or submitting to dominant women.

There isn't anything wrong with it.

This is reminiscent of the former Zity member who said he went to Asia to have all the nerves controlling his anus and urethral sphincter cut so he would be totally incontinent and be forced to sit in his excrement and be forced to wear diapers for the rest of his life.

It is reminiscent of that guy! I think that someone might have the fantasy or delusion that this would be a good idea but I don't think any surgeon or review board would go for it. What some people do for a good time! Or wish they could do.

I have to say Changed1 that your story actually saddens me a lot. Susie is right, many people have the thoughts and feelings you do, and it doesn't mean that they are going to act on them, and if they do, so what? We all have urges of one kind or another, that is very normal. If you were afraid that what you were feeling might be an issue I really really wish you would have gone and seen, talked to someone about your thoughts, and what and why they worried you so much. There are really just so many options that you could have picked from beside the route you went. Maybe it's the woman in me, the mom in me, or maybe the nurse in me but I just want to hug you and assure you that you are going to be okay and somehow we will get it fixed, we will find a solution that is an acceptable one instead of a knee-jerk reaction that I am sure, one day you will eventually regret.

I hope when that day comes, and I know for a fact that it will if it hasn't already that you can find the help you need so that you can be okay with yourself.

Mashie

Like a january sale....when its gone its gone

Sadly the wishes could be true, hopefully somebody will take care of him and guide him the right way.

My best wishes for you......

I find changed1's story hard to believe because removal of testes would remove the body's main source of hormones, which would require some sort of hormone medication to maintain healthy hormone levels. Without hormones, there is a drastic loss in bone density, isn't there? I am not a medical professional so this is all just hearsay and speculation on my part. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Castration would only remove testosterone. There are many other hormones which support the "vegetative" function of the body including thyroid hormone, cortisol, parathyroid hormone and so on. The loss of testosterone would only cause loss of some of the secondary sex characteristics such as beard growth. Ultimately it could cause voice changes and other effects. It's a terrible way to control sexual behavior though and I still don't believe he actually did it. As I said no surgeon or surgical review board would allow it. I just think it's a story and as such should be consigned to the fantasy section.

Liquid, Please forgive me here for asking this question because it's going to sound like I am doubting you or something and I don't mean it to come across like that. But, you have said twice now that the Board would never allow this kind of surgery. How is gender reassignment surgery done? For the men wanting to be a woman don't they remove things down there? I have watched a surgery on this where they turned the penis basically inside out and some how or another put it up inside the guy so it looked like a vagina. They explained that he would have to use dilators to stretch it out enough both in width and in depth to be able to accommodate a penis. So where do the balls go, for lack of better terms?

Again, I am not trying to be disrespectful or funny here. I am asking because I really don't understand. What can you tell me about this? Thanks in advance.

Mashie

Appetizer portion of mountain oysters?

Mashie you're asking two questions as I understand you. As for as castration to control sexual urges goes, I simply don't believe that a surgical review board would allow this to be done. For gender reassignment it could of course be done. I think if the member is claiming that he was castrated it must have been for this. Also inconsistent is the removal of the prostate. This is not done in gender reassignment surgery. There are a lot of other facets to his story which must be exaggerated as well. As for the testes, they must of course be removed and the scrotum fashioned into labia. It's interesting that you saw the penis being fashioned into a vagina. It was my understanding that a piece of small bowel was used. In fact when this is done it even lubricates.

Liquid, thanks for the reply. Okay, I understand now what you, or why you were saying that the Board would not allow that to happen. That makes sense. I started doubting myself wondering if what I watched was really real or not, and if it wasn't OMG they did a great job and making it look correct and medically correct which as you know it's really hard if not almost impossible to make fake medical procedures look real. Also, I would have never thought about making a vagina out of a piece of intestine. That really is brilliant and I would think would be a lot more, well for lack of better terms, "forgiving" as far as it's ability to accommodate things such as a penis. I wouldn't think it would take near the process with the dilatation devices to get to the width you were seeking.

Thanks again for answering my questions, and if you thought my questions were stupid, not saying that they were. LOL

I guess I learned two things today, this, and that I am apparently a bigot, lol.

Mashie

Mashie, you asked:

How is gender reassignment surgery done?......So where do the balls go, for lack of better terms?

More details fyi:

Those who undergo a medical male-to-female transition involving any downstairs removal/reconstructive surgery have the testes removed because the testes are the main source of testosterone, which you know is the hormone responsible for masculinization. Their hormones are replaced with estrogen, usually taken in the form of injections, in order to feminize the rest of the body and to reverse, as much as possible, the effects of having had a testosterone-dominated system until that point. Hormone medications can also reduce testosterone levels to below that of any other woman, even before/without removing the testes.

Sometimes a vaginoplasty is performed using a section of the colon, I think, which Liquidsky referred to. But I believe I read somewhere that nowadays that is considered inadvisable, and the penile inversion method is far more common. Even with the penile inversion method, many trans women report that their resulting vaginal walls can still self-lubricate.

Mashie also said:

I guess I learned two things today, this, and that I am apparently a bigot, lol.

I'm not sure what the bigot comment refers to. I must have missed it if someone said that. Maybe it was on another thread. But anyway, I do have a comment about this:

I have watched a surgery on this where they turned the penis basically inside out and some how or another put it up inside the guy so it looked like a vagina. They explained that he would have to use dilators....I am not trying to be disrespectful...

I am sure that it would be more respectful to refer to such a person as a woman. Any "man" who wishes to live as a woman and have the penis removed/re-fashioned into a vagina cannot really be called a man, wouldn't you say?

HC, I have to be 100 percent totally honest with you here. Gender reassignment surgery, thoughts of doing it, the steps and reasons behind someone wanting to do that and anything and everything that has to do with this whether it be a man or a woman just really fascinates me. I am not sure why it does either. Maybe it's because I am very happy in my own skin and happy being a woman?

Not to be condescending here but I just don't understand how one comes to that decision. It is beyond my ability to understand it psychologically speaking. While I want people to be happy in their own skin and with themselves, because someone has the feelings that have to be so overwhelming to them somewhat saddens me, a lot actually. I think for people like me, like most of us the thoughts of changing genders because you are not happy with what you are has to be confusing and something that is in the forefront of their mind every waking second, and probably in their dreams too.

Before a few years ago I only knew of one person that was out and open about this sort of thing and that was Sonny Bono and Cher's daughter who has become a man. I am not sure what all he has done as far as gender reassignment but he was somewhat open about his journey and why he went down that path. My thoughts for him, well, I honestly didn't give it much thought really. I probably was just of the mindset of "well whatever floats his boat I guess" sort of mentality. But it wasn't until one of my biggest childhood hero's Bruce Jenner decided to come forward with the same thing basically.

I have talked about Bruce more than a few times on here. He was a man's man, and American hero to an entire country, and he had everything that most people would assume would make them happy in life. But, while he had everything, he was not happy, not satisfied, and he lived a life, albeit surrounded by fame, fortune, and tons of family and friends, he was alone inside himself. We have all been there at some point in our lives, surrounded by tons of friends and family, yet we feel totally alone. For most of us it's a feeling that passes pretty quickly, but for people like Bruce it's a feeling that never goes away until they make the ultimate decision to change themselves from the inner core out.

I just can't even imagine. And I am very glad that I don't have to.

Mashie

I knew another doctor who was in the process of becoming a woman. She dressed as a woman and was quite striking. She confided in me that ever since she'd been a tiny child she'd felt as if she'd been imprisoned in a body of the wrong sex. She viewed her penis as a tumor. She had been president of her fraternity before she decided to make the switch. She had worked insanely hard to make the change. She took off three months, dieted drastically and taken estrogens to change her body. She'd had to learn to speak with a woman's voice. By the time I met her she'd had the years worth of psychotherapy to be considered for the surgery. I lost touch with her but heard she'd had the surgery. The results were less than optimal apparently. She was a woman to all intents and purposes. I had nothing but respect for her. I sincerely hope she found a modicum of happiness because she was one of the brightest, nicest, funniest and most good looking women I've ever met.

Liquid, your post in reply to my last one was very touching. At the risk of sounding incredibly condescending, I am very proud of you. I am 45, was born in 1970 and for people in my generation things like gender reassignment topics and other things along those lines were different. My generation was the first generation where the concepts of real equality regardless of race, gender, gay, straight and on an on were really taught in schools, and were starting to be taught at home too. Not everyone in my generation gets it and I am thankful that the generation after mine is a lot more accepting and the generation after that. But for the generations that came before me, and your generation as well, change, equality, and differences are not as well tolerated or accepted.

Someone on here made a comment in another thread that was talking about growing up Catholic. They said something to the effect that even as an adult, even when you have completely removed yourself from that religious upbringing it is still very hard to change the core of your upbringing and basic belief system. Well this is true for other things as well, like tolerances of other races and what not. I have seen this so much in the elderly population that I often have as patients. Even though they grew up clearly in a generation where slavery no longer existed and this country had equality for all, they can't let go. They will not share a room with a black person or let a black person take care of them. They will look you in the face and tell you that they know it's wrong, but it was the way they were brought up and they can't shake that.

Change isn't easy, acceptance is even harder especially when you were not brought up in a generation or a time when differences were acceptable, or anything out of the "norm" as society perceived it to be was tolerated. This is why I am telling you that I am proud of you. Many in your generation fall into non-acceptance of whatever to them is not normal, or not how "nature" has intended it to be, but you my friend have risen above that. You are a very good boy just so you know. And thank you for being above the rest no matter what generation that applies to.

Mashie