Cramps

M&M enemas make me cramp like no other. Deliver the solution from a very high injection point. Head down, nozzle firmly planted, open the clamp and hold on for an amazing ride. The purgative effect of this type of enema is something that always brings very strong cramping, usually rather quickly too!

No, absolutely not. I frequently have very large enemas even up to 4-5 quarts of water, saline or Castile soap with barely any, often absolutely no, cramping. The only thing required is to get the necessary volume of water into the right part of your colon for long enough to loosen and flush out the waste. Cramps are not a requirement for effectiveness.

Eric

Certainly that is how I judge what's happening.

Cramps are part of what I expect, a normal and necessary part of an effective enema.

If I get to a 15 minute retention and I am barely holding it, then it should be a good enema session overall.

Cramps are part of the love-hate relationship with enemas. I hate going through them, but by them happening, I can judge well how well the enema is working.

I very seldom feel cramps and when I do they are only momentary which go away as soon as the flow is stopped. When resumed a moment or two later, I no longer feel any cramping. And I would say, my enemas are always effective making me feel squeaky clean inside.

Kind of a "wishy-washy" response, sometimes yes, sometimes no. I guess it depends, at least for me, as to how full I am, the solution, and the temp of the solution. Any way is effective for me.

Most definitely need strong cramping for any of my sexual enema sessions. Takes me back to childhood when I hate an enema and the cramping was awful then.. Amazing how awful then is now pleasurable.

Most definitely need strong cramping for any of my sexual enema sessions. Takes me back to childhood when I hate an enema and the cramping was awful then.. Amazing how awful then is now pleasurable.

RedDevil,

Interesting, and I'm glad you enjoy your cramps, but I think we all may experience enemas a little differently or at least appreciate their features differently. I barely remember my very few, 2-4 at most, enemas given in chikdhood, and no recollection of cramping. I vaguely recall I enjoyed them given by my RN mom. I started giving them to myself at age 15 as a recreation as well as for sexual stimulation. I've never liked cramps, except very, very mild ones, and low down strong rectal urges to push and evacuate an enema are especially distasteful to me until I get up on the commode to start emptying. Ive learned to use solutions that either don't cramp me at all (water, saline, bicarbonate) or give me very mild cramps when I'm in the mood (Castile soap). I routinely take 3.5-4.5 quarts and hold for 30-60 minutes just for the delight of internal pressure and external distention. I take most of them in a sub mindset because my trusted Domme ex used to give them to me that way, and the submission/embarrassment/humiliation feelings are extremely erotic. Now solo, I use a fantasy Domme like my ex to remind me and stimulate those same feelings. If my fantasy Domme wants to subject me to cramping, well then it's a lot more tolerable and might even be a bit enjoyable.

Eric

My childhood enemas were so soapy strong, the cramps were like nothing I can produce today. Would even get a large blob of thick clear mucus coming out when hours or next day in school I farted... The enemas were made from dissolving allot of Ivory snow (circa 1950 Ivory snow was simply Ivory soap shavings) in a pot of water heated up on the stove.... I would then have to wait for it to cool, being in just a T-shirt. I remember the feeling of that waiting, and seeing my penis ever so tiny since the waiting made it shrink.

I don't feel cramps are needed for a good emema. However, I like a little cramping the feel my colon. Otherwise, not much feeling other than fullness, or slight pain if too much solution. Actually introduce air in colon to start, then water to get the feeling.

I've been lucky enough to rarely experience much if any cramping with my enemas, even with larger volumes. As I fill there is occasionally a feeling of some pressure gently building at a certain spot, but it tends to be momentary and passes quickly as the water works its way past any material in my colon. These sensations are usually most noticeable during my first couple of enemas, and don't occur after I've been all cleaned out. There's also sometimes the cramp-like sensation of intense fullness when I'm pushing at my usual maximum volume, which is around 3.5 to 4 qts for me. It's a feeling of tightness in my belly and pressure inside, and it makes it hard to hold any more water in. This is usually the feeling I get when my large intestine is completely filled with water and there's just nowhere else for it to go, and at this point I have to release almost immediately.

I don't think cramps are necessary for an effective enema. I have certainly had effective enemas that produced a feeling a fullness but did not cause cramps. That said, I almost always experience cramps. Almost all of my enemas are given to relieve my chronic constipation. I am sure my clogged colon contributes to the cramping. I do know that if I take an enema after I have done one for constipation relief, it is much less likely to cramp.

Speaking of cramping, I had the mother of all crampy enemas on Monday. I had been taking senna laxatives for several days but they were not working. I realized that I had not pooped in over a week and decided that I was close to being impacted. I opted to bring out the big guns - the dreaded milk and molasses enema. I used a quart of the mixture and took it in the knee chest position on the bathroom floor. I hung a disposable enema bucket about five feet above me and managed to get the entire quart in. My resolve to hold it was overcome within about two minutes by gut busting cramps and an overwhelming urge to evacuate. Over the next 30 minutes I experienced cramping bad enough to make me break out in a cold sweat and send waves of nausea though my stomach. In the end, the results were quite worth it. I don't think I have ever had such a thorough colon cleansing.

I received different enemas growing up. I had to retain the small m and m enemas for thirty minutes and the last ten minutes were very hard even with the balloon nozzle preventing their premature expulsion. My stomach was rumbling from the gas buildup and the cramps were so uncomfortable until finally the inside balloon was deflated and the painful enema exploded in an uncontrollable gush. Once I was finished expelling it, a long colon tube was slowly inserted after mom injected a bulb syringe of olive oil into my rectum. Then a soapy enema filled my colon to cleanse it of the m and m. This also gave me cramps as I held it in until I could no longer do so. I would masturbate during the retention and so the enemas became a painful pleasure.

Alberto6536,

Why on earth did your mother think you required M&M enemas as a child? That about borders on child abuse to me.

Eric

Eric, they were small in quantity and infrequent. At first only 4 oz. later 6 and, in our teens, 8 ounces given by a bulb syringe. Although we could hear our tummies rumbling, generally the urge to go didn't start until twenty minutes after the syringing. Mom took the same enemas and they did assure a complete evacuation of the colon. Sometimes the Mayo enemas were used instead. As teens, we could choose to receive a pint m and m and then the retention time was only 15 minutes. So none of us saw the enemas as abuse especially since mom and dad got the same.

It’s just part of the process. But necessary. You know the 3nena is working @nd you feel good after.

Alberto6536, Reminds me of the very strong Ivory Snow enemas I got whereby so much Ivory Snow was used it had to be dissolved in pot of water heated up on the stove and then cooled. Just a bulb full would produce cramps that were unbelievable and hours after would produce clear mucus discharge. The enema was more like a bulb full suppository since the soap was so thick..

Eric, they were small in quantity and infrequent. At first only 4 oz. later 6 and, in our teens, 8 ounces given by a bulb syringe. Although we could hear our tummies rumbling, generally the urge to go didn't start until twenty minutes after the syringing. Mom took the same enemas and they did assure a complete evacuation of the colon. Sometimes the Mayo enemas were used instead. As teens, we could choose to receive a pint m and m and then the retention time was only 15 minutes. So none of us saw the enemas as abuse especially since mom and dad got the same.

Alberto,

Thanks for the explanation. Makes some sense, and sounds much less like abuse than I thought. Still that's the first time I'd ever heard of M&M enemas used on children. It just seems like there are a number of other solutions your parents could have used, so do you have any idea why they chose that one?

Eric

Ericmason, I have seen a couple of professional journal articles mentioning M&M for children presenting with constipation. The rationale given was that it was effective and didn't have many visible adverse impacts on the colonic mucosa, compared to soapsuds or tap water. Perhaps another (unsaid) component is that you don't have to get as much solution in as you do with a normal saline enema.

Ericmason, I have seen a couple of professional journal articles mentioning M&M for children presenting with constipation. The rationale given was that it was effective and didn't have many visible adverse impacts on the colonic mucosa, compared to soapsuds or tap water. Perhaps another (unsaid) component is that you don't have to get as much solution in as you do with a normal saline enema.

Thanks. I hadn't heard of these. I have a much too tender colon. I doubt I'll ever try an M&M.

Eric

Have to say I was surprised when I saw them. I have never had an M&M but definitely have heard their reputation. Does seem a bit heavy to throw at a kid right away, but I don't have the training and experience that these guys do.

Ericmason, I have seen a couple of professional journal articles mentioning M&M for children presenting with constipation. The rationale given was that it was effective and didn't have many visible adverse impacts on the colonic mucosa, compared to soapsuds or tap water. Perhaps another (unsaid) component is that you don't have to get as much solution in as you do with a normal saline enema.

Moliere,

What journal(s) did you see the articles in? Are you a doctor or other health provider?

Eric

I've taken (and given) enough enemas to know how to try and avoid cramps, or at least minimize them, but I also know how unpredictable they can be. I've taken an enema of two when I was hoping to lie back and relax after a long business trip, and suddenly felt that I was taking an enema from hell.

I remember one time when my older daughter Jen had been sick for several days, and in one of the rare times she was PMS constipated I felt that she needed an enema, she asked if it was going to hurt? I said something like it might be a little uncomfortable, but that's when we know that the enema is working to make you feel better. How's that for a mom's rationalization? The enema worked with minimal discomfort, and Jen gave me a big hug afterwards. (That made me more comfortable as well.) Actually, that's pretty much how I feel about enema cramps.

Yes it is hard to know when the cramping will start so stopping ahead sometimes help. Generally waiting for a few minutes before starting back up the flow. Sometimes it can take up to 4 to 5 stop and starts.

Just to bring this thread back closer to its origin,I will say that I do NOT think cramps are necessary for an effective enema. After having had literally thousands of gallons through me over 70+ years, my experience is that some very effective enemas have had no cramps, and some that halfway killed me were not very productive. I think a lot of that is because cramping (IMO) is more a product of intestinal gas present before the enema, or produced by the enema itself. The M&M enema is a prime example: the milk and molasses pumped high into the colon feeds colon bacteria and they produce large amounts of gas. The gas bubbles cause the colon to spasm, and that causes painful cramps. At the same time, the gas forces the shit out ahead of it, much as an air rifle ejects the pellet through the barrel. Personally, I'm fine with moderate cramping, and occasionally actually enjoy them. I've played with several women who absolutely love them, and ask me to make their enemas as painful as possible.

Moliere,

What journal(s) did you see the articles in? Are you a doctor or other health provider?

Eric

I'd have to look them up again. They were indexed on PubMed, and I have contacts that were able to get one out of the articles.

No, not a medical professional. Have family members who are so I know how to look at a study or case report. I check up on enema-related stuff now and then because I do want to make sure I'm being safe. For instance, while I'm pretty sure that the inflammation described in several studies following enemas is mostly innocuous, I want to know if they do find a link between it and, say, CRC.

Just from reading about M& M enemas elsewhere, my guess is that those who recommend them never had one given to them as a child.

Just to bring this thread back closer to its origin,I will say that I do NOT think cramps are necessary for an effective enema. After having had literally thousands of gallons through me over 70+ years, my experience is that some very effective enemas have had no cramps, and some that halfway killed me were not very productive. I think a lot of that is because cramping (IMO) is more a product of intestinal gas present before the enema, or produced by the enema itself. The M&M enema is a prime example: the milk and molasses pumped high into the colon feeds colon bacteria and they produce large amounts of gas. The gas bubbles cause the colon to spasm, and that causes painful cramps. At the same time, the gas forces the shit out ahead of it, much as an air rifle ejects the pellet through the barrel. Personally, I'm fine with moderate cramping, and occasionally actually enjoy them. I've played with several women who absolutely love them, and ask me to make their enemas as painful as possible.

Soapy4me,

I'm not a big fan of much except large volumes with long retentions and almost none except very mild cramps. What did you use to provide your playmates with the painful cramps they requested? Did they like them or request even more painful enemas?

Eric

Wow - and enema without cramps that worked? - interesting and cannot imagine what it would be like. Seems in my case, cramps are directly proportional to how effective my enema is going to be. That was the problem I had using fleets - no real cramping and they didn't work. Is it possible I've become strong enema tolerant?

I've never had much trouble with cramps. The strong Ivory Soap enemas I received as a kid would certainly cause urgency, but not much more than some minor peristalsis cramping, feeling things move.

I think the temperature, mom's might have been on the hot side, and mine later in life were 106 degrees, checked with a thermometer, as we are going with the desire for maximum pleasure. I think warm water will avoid cramping.

I've tried cold water, which will cause cramps and air, which is generally the cause of cramps. The really bad cramps have come from diarrhea associated with bad food or norovirus infection, which, fortunately have been infrequent. I have used enemas successfully to relieve those symptoms.

But, to each his or her own, I had a playmate that was into cramps, part of what she liked along with what she called super-soaper enemas. Probably should have done an M&M enema with her, but I've heard too many bad things about them so, in all my experimenting, I never tried or administered one.

Part of to each his or her own, another playmate that didn't enjoy taking or holding, just tolerated it because she loved to, in her words, "Sit on the toilet and explode." I remember a night when she took six (or maybe more) large volume enemas because she was really getting off on expelling. She kept having me refill the bag, great fun.

So, getting back on topic, I've been so much into relaxing and enjoying an enema that my body was probably relaxed so much there was minimal cramping.

Oddly enough, some of the most effective enemas I've ever taken never caused any serious cramping at all. Conversely, some enemas are total duds that end up crampy and take all morning to expel. But for the most part, my enemas typically provide that delightful fullness without severe cramps while resulting in a thorough cleansing. I do agree that warmer water (105-107F) helps minimize cramping...at least it does for me!

Have fun and play safe,

Deb