Forms for Schools, Summer Camps, and Pediatrics

Tanner staging is a huge part of the memories that sparked or at least fueled my fetish. Hence, my avatar here.

Ahh, that's what that picture is. I had no idea!

I found this one quite interesting

https://www.mdek12.org/sites/default/files/documents/OCN/procedures_and_standards_of_care_manual_2018_updated_2019.pdf

It's Mississippi School Nurse - Procedures & Standards of Care June 2018

If you go to page 24 there is a pretty exhaustive list of things to look at during a physical exam. Certainly would be a more thorough examination than I've ever had!

Mississippi School Nurse - Procedures & Standards of Care June 2018

That is incredibly detailed! Wow!

I live in MS, I would not allow my child to be subjected to such an invasive and intrusive examination to attend a summer camp. This is more like a medical exam to send someone to the moon.

That is incredibly detailed! Wow!

Perhaps the document was made more in the vein of stretching a work project for as long as possible to get out of having to do other work. As a form of administrative busywork ...

I would not allow my child to be subjected to such an invasive and intrusive examination to attend a summer camp.

While this thread is for "Schools, Summer Camps, and Pediatrics," this particular document is just for school.

I wouldn't want my hypothetical child subjected to an invasive and intrusive examination either, but I also wouldn't want them to suffer from a health problem that could be cured or managed. I would probably go to great lengths to find a care provider who is personable and takes the child's apprehensions seriously.

I've seen enty of forms for school and summer camp physicals. Most of them just have a box next to "Genetalia" for the doctor to check.

Never seen a form requesting a circumcision status.

Perhaps the document was made more in the vein of stretching a work project for as long as possible to get out of having to do other work. As a form of administrative busywork ...

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. There are people who really believe in providing a high standard of care, especially at the state level where the value of public health outshines a profit margin.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. There are people who really believe in providing a high standard of care, especially at the state level where the value of public health outshines a profit margin.

That is possible too. But I was thinking of what might be called an administrative obsessive anal-retentive, someone who goes to great lengths to include every eventuality.

Or perhaps made by someone with a sublimated medical fetish ... might be possible as well ...

perhaps made by someone with a sublimated medical fetish

Stranger things have happened. In any case I would be personally thrilled to have such a thorough exam.

perhaps made by someone with a sublimated medical fetish

Stranger things have happened. In any case I would be personally thrilled to have such a thorough exam.

This is always a possibility. I know for a fact that that a lot of my medical exams as a kid and teenager were specifically because my parents had a medical fetish that they lived vicariously through me and my siblings.

BUT, I think it is more likely in this case to be legit base-covering by school health professionals.

I found this one quite interesting

https://www.mdek12.org/sites/default/files/documents/OCN/procedures_and_standards_of_care_manual_2018_updated_2019.pdf

This certainly points to a thorough examination, similar to the ones from 40 years ago. Interesting that the male genitalia examination doesn’t include a hernia check.

I've seen enty of forms for school and summer camp physicals. Most of them just have a box next to "Genetalia" for the doctor to check.

Never seen a form requesting a circumcision status.

The only reason I can think of as to why circumcision status would be recorded, might be because for the uncircumcised boys, Phimosis might need to be checked for in future.

@BulgeInPants Phimosis is a lasting condition does not have to be fixed for a summer camp.. (balanitis is another matter)

@Pecan_nutjob Yes you are correct about Phimosis, but was this perhaps just a general medical screening form taken from school or home doctor, repurposed for summer camp use? Likewise the section for Tanner Staging of sexual development (marked 'Males Only') would have had little use in that brief setting, unless to flag for later follow-up elsewhere. Although thinking back to those less regulated times, that doesn't mean that all camp nurses would have skipped a careful check of those male areas...

We might ask ourselves why Females were spared such Tanner Staging examination? Presumably this reflects the greater sexual protection girls were always afforded over boys.

We might ask ourselves why Females were spared such Tanner Staging examination? Presumably this reflects the greater sexual protection girls were always afforded over boys.

What could be measured in females that corresponded in maturing into and past puberty?

For boys it is a simple thing to look at when it concerns testicles growing larger and descending.

What would a doctor look at in adolescent girls?

What could be measured in females that corresponded in maturing into and past puberty?

Underarm and pubic hair growth, breast development, nipple size changes.

Underarm and pubic hair growth, breast development, nipple size changes.

One can note the emergence and growth of hair, but it's length says nothing about the stage of puberty.

And many grown women have small sized breasts and nipples. I don't think there is any direct correlation in their size to the stage of puberty either.

@agracier you are correct. I meant the presence of hair and the distribution. I am not a doctor but I suspect they can stage the development level of girls. Maybe a doctor or nurse will chime in on this.

Underarm and pubic hair growth, breast development, nipple size changes.

When my daughter was much younger, her doctor wrote "tanner 2" under the breast section of her physical form. He used those kinds of forms that you see a lot of if you do a search for physical exam form. He did not have her undress any for the exam or palpate them, it was just his observation.

Although not a form, this prescribes how school entry medicals were carried out for a research project a number of years ago. It may be of interest and bring reminders to some in the UK of a certain age…

https://adc.bmj.com/content/archdischild/61/8/807.full.pdf