Forms for Schools, Summer Camps, and Pediatrics

Anyone found any forms recently?

Haven't looked, but summer is coming up soon. Will keep my eyes peeled for them 😃

Anyone found any forms recently?

Google really is your friend in this situation:

https://www.google.com/search?q=school+sports+physical+examination+forms+type%3Dpdf

Why not look through the thousands of forms that you'll find in these results?

Wow. looked through some of those forms and they sure are thorough! Thanks for sharing!

"Your child will be asked to disrobe to underclothing: boys will wear socks and underpants; girls will wear socks, underpants, and a loose shirt without a bra or undershirt. While every effort is made to preserve dignity and privacy, most health offices are too small to provide the level of privacy your child may be used to in his/her private provider’s office. Other children of the same sex may be in the changing area."

Basically the same as when I went to school except we removed our shirt.

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Wow

Lenka, thx for your posts

I remember that in my school time (1980s) we got a questionnaire every year before our yearly school exam, which my mom had to fill up. It was 2 to 3 pages and I remembered that my mom always wrote a lot about my (abdominal) problems, so that the school doctor mostly was uncontent about me.

Most frightening for me was the section about inoculations. It made me fear getting shots and particularly where I would get them because I normally got injections in my bottom and all my friends regarded getting them back there to be childish.

For my middle school physical, I hid the form frim my parents all summer, as an exam was required before starting school in the fall. Of course it caught up with me and i eventually had to go. I remember reading the form and actually thinking it might not be that bad. Of course, i was 11 and had no idea what "genitourinary" meant. Little did i know...

I think this is less common now than it used to be. The forms for my kids only had one lines "genitals" and didn't ask about Tanner stage.

Why did parents submit their kids to these examinations done by school doctors when they could have their own family doctor do the exam. One never really knows who the contracted school doctor is and why he is doing examinations on kids. Think about it!

Physical: Good question I have pondered myself. For some parents is about saving money Others that would include me convenience.

At least in the United Stated one has a option in some other countries a school examination is mandatory with no option to use your own doctor.

Personally being over protective can be bad. Every experience adds to ones ability to deal with issues as an adult.

Since I went to a family doctor (my parents being teachers), and I think that every child had to produce proof of having had a physical each year, I think it was how it was done in the 1960's: fill out forms for trips, phys ed, health, etc. I think that all the boys in 4th grade were taken to the nurse's office, stripped down to underwear, and examined by a doctor, even though they had been examined privately. And to participate in wrestling, we all were sent to the nurse's office for a check, even though we would have had physicals prior to the start of school. No one questioned what seemed 'normal.' A bad report card, however, would get scrutiny.

For some parents is about saving money Others that would include me convenience.

I think it was how it was done in the 1960's...No one questioned what seemed 'normal.'

I totally agree with both of these posts. Just a few decades ago, having the school provide for any mandatory exams just seemed like the normal thing to do. It really was a different time back then, with a totally different view of what was considered normal. And if the parents were given a choice to either have the exams done at school or do them privately, more often than not the decision came down to cost and convenience. Or I could say procrastination on the part of the parents for not having the private exam done.

Two thoughts in retrospect.

During private office examinations some kids become incorporative or start crying at school as a group that never appeared to take place.

Plus in a group exam you feel less singled out as everyone is in the same state.

"Your child will be asked to disrobe to underclothing: boys will wear socks and underpants; girls will wear socks, underpants, and a loose shirt without a bra or undershirt. While every effort is made to preserve dignity and privacy, most health offices are too small to provide the level of privacy your child may be used to in his/her private provider’s office. Other children of the same sex may be in the changing area."

Basically the same as when I went to school except we removed our shirt.

http://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=imgbnk;ox=itmdownload;img=125411;s=gallery;image

That's a photoshopped composite photo if I ever saw one!

As an actress I view it as a visual prop.

Julie Lenka ,Drama Queen SAG-AFTRA

I think like Jimmy Johnson in his post 74 that the parents in a recent past (60', 70's, may be still 80's) chose always the most easy way to have their sons examined for school or sport.

If they had to choose between a physical examination at a doctor's 'private office or in a medical clinic for which they might pay and a report at school in a gym or a nurse's office for a group examination by a school doctor without any cost for them, it is obvious that they amlost always sent their sons at the school examinations.

it seemed so much more easier, more efficient and besides it did not cost anything and as it concerned all the students, there was apparently no reason for a boy to complain, he was treated like his boy's class mates.

I assume that they did not know always with details the set up of the group physical examinations since generally the students (at least in high school) did not like to relate with much details their school physicals, so it could happen that the families, especially the mothers, did not know how it was managed without privacy

as regards the fathers, I assume that most of them had known the same kind of physical examinations either at school or for the pre-military examinations, so they certainly did not mind a lot about the embarrassment of their sons, I assume that sometimes they found it rather funny and a good experience to make a male student get out of his false modesty if he had one.

The set up of the physical examination was decided mainly by the school authorities but certainly with the agreement of the school board, so the fathers who were members of the school board would have agreed with a set up without privacy.

At that time there was a wide spread idea about the useless of the sense of modesty for boys and male teenagers in an only male environment, they might grow up and become real man.

It is also certainly true that one reason for a set up of the physicals examinations in group without privacy was the will to keep the boys under control : more a male student was undressed, more he was normally obedient to instructions.

In the case of the Jimmy Johnson sports physical examinations at high school, it was obvious that there was no need to require that the student came at the physical wearing only a jockstrap, it would have been the same with a brief or a boxer, for the efficiency of the examination, so the school authorities wanted certainly to impress more the male students and why not to humiliate themt o keep them more under control

I understand that the male students were used to take showers in group and to change in the locker room in group but here it was different because they might expoose their naked butts to the sight of a large audience during a very long time and without understandable reasons.

May be in families the parents were thinking differently for their daughters : if they had the choice , I assume that they asked to their daughters what they preferred because there was sometimes a kind of double standard towards medical examinations, The parents were more concerned by the feelings of their daughters and cared about her privacy .

The worst for a boy student was certainly to be questioned by his parents about his physical examinations in front of a slighly older or younger sister who could tease him after his relation if he described it with details, for instance when he was instructed to line up with just jocks if his sisters knew what it was because they were never told to wear such underwears exposing all the butts

I don't have a copy of it anymore but I remember my summer camp physical form because it long and narrow like a legal size page cut in half long ways. That physical was done at my doctor's office. And covered all the things on the firm you showed. I had group physicals for junior high basketball. The whole team showed up to the gym on Saturday morning and we stripped to our under shorts and lined up to wait. No privacy at all. I remember our parents were sitting in the bleachers waiting. I was more than a little embarrassed to have the other moms see me in my boxers. I wanted to find a place to hide when I had to pull them down for the doctor.

I have seen forms like that for school and camps but maybe not that detailed about male genitalia or Tanner stages. Most of the time I probably didn't pay attention to what the form said if I was even allowed to see it when I was a kid. For sports exams, we sometimes had a form that we took from exam station to station in the gym although our form was more like a checklist that had our name, age, grade and birthdate at the top of it.

The checklist was on a narrow paper or card that had the name of each station and either a box to be checked for normal or abnormal or a short line next to each category for the doc to initial or check off. The categories were probably weight, height, heart, lungs, spine, hernia and genitals. Maybe it covered more than I remember but the only things that we noticed and talked about were the "ball check" and cough check.

I saw the first comprehensive form when I went off to college and it was a form for boys and girls so it had categories for the girls on it too. I remember it had "breast exam" but not any gyn exam while the boy's side had "hernia" and "testicles". When I wrestled and had weigh-ins for tournaments, the card was simple. Name, age, grade, weight and skin.

The card was marked with a black marker and the most important category was "weight" as weight was everything in wrestling even though our skin was also checked as part of weighing-in or as part of a separate skin exam for wrestlers for some tournaments. I think my boy scout physical card was like the sports physical cards for school as we had exams before scout camp. I didn't go to scout camp every year but we still had to have a physical for camping and hiking activities.

I am still confused about 'deferred' on a form, whether the doctor or patient makes the call to defer, in this case, the genital and rectal parts going down the list starting with eyes, ears, etc.

"deferred" probably means that the doctor decided not to do that part of the exam. Although "deferred" probably means that something will be done later I think rather than not done at all. I guess that a patient could refuse some part of an exam and the doctor might write "deferred" but it would probably be smarter to write "refused" so it was clear that it was the patient who decided and not the doctor.

I remembered about boy scouts that adults who are participating in scout camps and trips have to have physicals too on the boy scout physical exam form. I had one of those a few years ago when my sons were in scouts and there was a scout camp for a week in summer. If the boy had a dad, then the dad had to attend with his son or sons. Then was told that anyone, boy or dad, who hadn't had a physical exam in the last 12 months had to have a physical.

My last physical had been just over a year before and the boy scout policies were that the physical had to be within the last 12 months no exceptions. I was surprised by this requirement since I didn't assume that it applied to adults but it did. The camp week was coming up really fast when I discovered that I couldn't show up without a completed physical form so tried my doctor's office first but they couldn't schedule me that fast.

Another dad suggested his doctor who was close to retirement but still seeing patients. I called that doctor and his receptionist scheduled me for the next week. I took the official scout physical form to my appointment as that is what I had to have completed and signed before we left for camp on the next Saturday. I showed up at the doctor's office and he really was close to retirement. He had a nurse who was also answering his phone, acting as the receptionist and still doing the nursing part too.

No other staff that I saw and no other patients in the reception area when I checked in. The nurse took me back to an exam room and checked my pulse and blood pressure. I thought maybe the doc would just come in and sign the form if I told him that I had a regular doctor, had regular checkups, and just needed the form signed. But the nurse told me to undress to my underwear and that the doctor would be right in. So I did. And he was right in or at least I don't remember waiting long.

He came in with the form which I had given to the nurse. He weighed me on the scales in the exam room and rechecked my pulse and blood pressure. It ended up being a regular physical exam including a check of my testicles, a hernia exam, and a rectal exam. I was surprised since I didn't think the form required a rectal exam but he did one anyway. Not sure if he didn't believe me when I told him that I had a regular doctor and got regular checkups. I guess patients lie about having doctors and regular checkups.

Anyway he was an old school doc and didn't skip anything. He completed my form and signed it. He said that as I was leaving that he had done lots of scout physicals but only a few for dads who had sons in scouts. The other dad who had recommended him told me at camp that he had forgotten to tell me that his doc was really thorough and he hoped that I didn't mind. It was thorough enough that I skipped having seeing my regular doc that year for my annual physical. Didn't see the point.

Like "Davidwest" I presume that when it was written "deferred" on a medical form by a doctor , it meaned that this part of the examination will be performed later either because you had refused it (but if it could be true for an adult, I doubt that a boy could refuse any kind of examinations, even the most embarrassing ones if they were required and mentioned on the medical form as part of a standard examination for school, sport or scout camp) either because the doctor did not want to do it like that immediately.

A question for "bob 1952" : I am a little surprised by the relation of your group physicals at junior high school for basketball ?

I am not sure but I presume that boys at junior high school were aged from 11 to 14 like at middle school which was the word used in some states for the same years of schools.

What surprises me was the presence of mothers sitting on bleachers while all the boys were undressed in underwears only during their examination in group in the gym, it was less embarrassing to be like you in boxers than if they had been undressed in jockstraps like it could have been decided in the 60's but nevertheless I doubt that it was very common.

For a boy between 11 and 14 age, it was rather embarrassing to be seen by the mothers of other boys as you said.

He was no more a small kid like at elementary school. I would have thought that the school authorities or the sport department's authorities would have not allowed the presence of women in the gym.after elementary school, even if they had to wait until the end of the physicals of the whole team.

It was considered as normal that the boys had no privacy at their physicals for school or for sport with group exams in underwears or completely naked, but generally it was in a male environment except for the doctor who could be a woman and the nurse of course. There was rather often a presence of fathers at sport physicals but they were male persons, so why not..

It seems to me that the presence of mothers being in the gym as spectators for a group examination which allowed them to see other boys than their sons undressed in underwears and instructed to pull them down in front of the doctor for a cough test and a genital inspection was less often related.

I just found a copy of my physical exam sheet when i was 13. Very interesting how detailed it is.

@tigersinzoo What specifically did it say?

Mainly about Development and puberty

I do volunteer work at a local "free" clinic. I find it interesting that under "Genitalia"(male) that you either check "Circumcised" or "Uncircumcised" for the condition of the foreskin.

I've posted this in other threads. This is the current packet for NY State. It was similar and even slightly more explicit when I was in school. We had to take it ALL off for sports like wrestling, boxing, etc. http://www.p12.nysed.gov/sss/documents/AthleticPlacementProcess12-11-17FINALRevised.pdf

I would love to have an exam like the one notes in the original camp post. I have never hade one that included a tanner stage as a kid

I would love to have an exam like the one notes in the original camp post. I have never hade one that included a tanner stage as a kid

Tanner staging is a huge part of the memories that sparked or at least fueled my fetish. Hence, my avatar here.