Sounding sessions

It feels great - both stimulating and that sense of a complete loss of control. Obviously you need someone who knows what they're doing - it has to be sterile and you mustn't force it - ohterwise you'll end up with a burning feeling for days. And afterwards drink lots of water - it lessens the risk of any infection developing.

Dax-

You've jumped ahead on the learning curve. If you've sounded, then you can most likely tolerate passing a cath. There's lots of good information in here. The first and most important rule to remember is aseptic technique. Don't force it, use enough lube, and be careful.

Play On!

LadyDoc

I am cautious and make sure everything is sterile.. but I wonder, I never know how far I'm in. How do I know when I have entered my bladder with a sound? Roughly how many inches does it take to get there? I know, so many questions.

I am cautious and make sure everything is sterile.. but I wonder, I never know how far I'm in. How do I know when I have entered my bladder with a sound? Roughly how many inches does it take to get there? I know, so many questions.

How far you go in is based on your external length and whether you get hard when you play. I have had partial ED for years and can sound to orgasm with only a minimal erection, which is wanted, if you go in deep, because a straight sound will fight against the natural bend of an hard erection. I see little sense in sounding to the bladder because you are pushing through a one-way valve the wrong way and the nervous responses there are not sexual.

Better to sound through the outer sphincter (we have 2, women have only the one at the bladder)into the prostate and then use tiny (1/2") strokes and rolling the round sound between the fingers to get sensation (there will be plenty). The outer sphincter is tightly "puckered" rather than actually closing and there is a lot of pleasure sensation repeatedly passing through it into the prostate...enough to automatically bring on ejaculation with minimal effort. As I feel ejaculating coming on, I slowly extract the sound all the way out and ejaculate normally. The sensation will tell you when you are there.

Short by nature and flaccid, I insert my sound between 6 and 7 inches to reach the sweet zone. I have found that gently pulling the penis out around the sound straightens the path and lets the sound, about 4-5 MM slide in effortlessly and leave no discomfort after use. I always pee after I do it to wash out lube and minimize the chance of infection.

Be patient, don't get carried away with or hurry the sensation. The sound should slide in almost effortlessly. When you feel resistance at the Cobb curve or at the outer sphincter, keep rolling the sound between finger tips and make an orbital movement at the handle, which will "open out" the pathway and let the sound slide in. Never push it in.

It might be possible to teach a willing partner to do this for you, but she will have to have the skill of a nurse and you will have to coach her until she develops it. Sounding to orgasm by a skilled nurse is definitely a fantasy of mine.

Jack,

Great comment. I shall use your technique to explore more "deeply". I'm fortunate to have a "skilled nurse" (who pointed out your article to me) to perform such a procedure.

I'm curious if there is such a think as a hollow sound that would not make it so hard to judge when to withdraw. Like you I can feel when things are about to come to fruition, but I also love to edge and in the process of edging sometimes get late in removing.

Thanks for the post.

. . . I'm curious if there is such a think as a hollow sound . . .

That would be a catheter. 😁 😁 😁

Drink lots and make sure not getting erect or might be problems

Hi,

When I was Circumcised 5 yrs ago due to phimosis and Diabetic complications, I had a simultaneous Cystoscopy which resulted in a very sore Urethra.

I was advised to drink a glass or two of Cranberry juice as it would help to reduce the stinging and pain internally and externally.

It really did work as I think it does something to the acid content of your Pee.

It is something I use now on a regular basis, especially after medfet play.

I would be very careful with sounds, as they can cause a lot of damage. Infection would be the least of your problems. One might suggest going to an experienced dominant (top) who could guide one through the proper insertion of a sound. There are also some pictures on the www.chaseunion.com website about urethral sounds in males.

I would not recommend trying this without initial guidance from someone that knows what they are doing.

Here are a couple items you might find pleasurable. I've used these on (or shall we say in) several of my lady patients and they really enjoyed them. These are a little expensive but on the other hand they are both stainless steel and very well made. Shop around online and you'll find several diameters are available and you might save a few bucks too. Have fun!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360194517784 (vibrating sound)

http://www.boyzfuntoyz.com/ribbed-urethral-dipstick-12mm-pi-73.html (ribbed sound)

The ebay item isn't very good according to my husband. Not enough vibration power, plus it isn't that long and you can get more stimulation pressing a vibrator like the Hitachi against the underside base of the penis which is where the end of the probe ends up. It was a waste of money.

I'm into cat play from years and now I'd like to tyy with sound. Wich type do you suggest for starting? Thanks

I would begin with a Hegar sound kit myself, start with one the same size as you would normally cath with & slowly work up to bigger size.

It is more what you are comfortable with, remember to use lots of lube & do not go too deep too quickly, TAKE YOUR TIME.

I prefer Pratt dilators to Hegars. For one thing, the taper is less abrupt. For another, the various dilators are several inches longer than a Hegar.

Both Hegars and Pratts are, in reality, not sounds. They are uterine dilators. The use of these for urethral play, though, is perfectly fine and much easier than trying to insert a Van Buren sound. If one wishes to play only with sounds, then I would start with Dittel sounds. These are straight and almost as easy to insert at are the uterine dilators.

Speed

I like rosebuds as the tip is the tightest spot and once you get past you can stimulate the entire urethra I'm speaking about male parts that is. Today I tried the vibrating sound for the first time that felt nice.

Count me in as a lover of rosebuds (also known as Bakes) for lots of reasons. They are easy to manipulate or so my nurse GF says and they produce amazing sensations. As the bigger ones are used they can be a bit much. USE LOTS OF LUBE ! ! ! After one or two increases in size use some more. This is the best way to avoid real pain and possible injury. Inject the lube with a syringe without a needle not from the tube. At least 3cc at a time. The sounds MUST be sterilized each time after use. Wash with anti-bacterial soap then bake each one in aluminum foil at 350 degrees for at least one hour. Leave them foil wrapped till use. Handle with gloves. What fun for both of you!

I’m used to putting in catheters which are rubber, and wearing them a long time. But the idea of putting in something solid appealed to me. I first tried some knitting needles, which are pointy but not sharp I found they’re fun for the straight part of my urethra but I wouldn’t want to shove it in and cause damage. But they are great for dilation of the first part of the urethra. There’s a narrow spot near the opening that can be dilated. I’m okay on pain, to a degree, and that’s part of the scene.

Next I tried aluminum crochet hooks. The back end can be rounded like a catheter and polished. These can be sterilized in the pressure cooker. Since I’m small (see my pictures in the catheter section) I could pass these 6” instruments deeper, straightening out the right angle bend in the urethra behind the scrotum. I don’t think these can go into my bladder, but they feel pretty good. Just make sure the size is large enough not to penetrate the wall of the urethra. I’d recommend at least a 5 mm diameter. The wide flat part feels good if I dip it in and out of the end of my penis.

For more fun I read about a urologist in Taiwan, who used steel chopsticks as home made urethral dilators. This sounded (ha ha) like fun. So I found some and rounded off the end. I saw in a museum a steel catheter. It had a 2” radius curve to match the natural curve of the male urethra as it goes through the prostate area. So I bent the chopstick to the same shape. The advantage is easy sterilization in my 8 quart pressure cooker. Here’s how I pass it. I hold the penis straight up. With the long end parallel to the abdomen and pointed toward the belly button, I insert the tip into the penis and the curved end drops straight down. I pull the penis over the chopstick as far as it will go. I slowly push on the end of the chopstick while raising the end of the instrument away from the belly, keeping the business end moving in. I don’t force anything. Sometimes it hangs up and I ‘strain’ like I want to pee, and it’ll go in past the sphincter. I know I’m in when the straight part is at right angle to the body. It is so cool to see my penis with a steel rod sticking out of it.!! For more fun I use a vibrator on the end of it.

I had been playing around with inserting disposable plastic pens. I heat the end of a pen over the gas stove, and using a metal spatula carefully seal off the end of the pen, and then round off the end with sand paper. It might take a couple tries to get right, but it should wind up blunt like a catheter. I found that the standard pen length doesn’t go into the bladder. I had drilled a hole in the end like a catheter & tried to get urine. So I found a tapered point pen which would fit into the end of the first blunt tipped pen. I used epoxy to glue them together, and with a lot of sanding, made the joint smooth. I used 320 grit paper to finish it off. I know urologists stick straight instruments into the bladder all the time, but I had trouble putting mine into the bladder. I drew blood couple times. Scary. So I stuck the plastic pen into my one liter coffee percolator full of boiling water. The thing bent and with a bit of care, the exact 2” curve was formed. For the big moment I waited until my bladder was full. I inserted the steel instrument first, to clear the way, pre-dilating all the passages and sphincters. Then I put in the plastic catheter. Bigger than the chopstick, it took several minutes to make the initial passage but I was rewarded by a copious flow of urine from the end! I pulled it back to stop the flow, and then re-inserted it, holding a cup to catch the urine. I usually don’t drain all of the urine, so I can use the residual urine to flush out the lube and anything else from the urethra.

I had a plumber friend seal off the end of a copper tubing and bend it for me. I finished the filing, polishing and drilling the hole on the end. Now I have both a plastic and copper solid catheters.

Last thing is, I don’t want to get infected. So I got some trays, some Cidex, and the usual sterile towels I cook in the pressure cooker. I also make my own sterile water in the pressure cooker with stainless steel pans. Before playing I drink a lot of water so I can flush out anything that goes into me. I use a lot of sterile Surgilube, and usually sterile gloves. I clean my penis with Betadine or benzalkonium (merthiolate).

Cleanliness having been resolved:

I've posted about this here before, but since have settled on a "procedure" that works every time. My purpose is internal masturbation as an adjunct to external stroking and I get excellent "results". Since I am short and have treatable ED and don't get very hard, my best results are with a straight 5mm sound. A super-slick lube (I use "Wet") is essential because there should be no pain or abrasion at all. Once the sound is in far enough, I slowly stoke it in a range of only an inch or so, rolling it in my fingers, while I lightly stroke outside. When ejaculation approaches, I feel a fullness that tells me it is time to slowly extract the sound just ahead of the first contraction, while I continue to stroke externally through to the last.

There is no post play "burning", even when I pee....just a vague sense that something happened in there. One thing is that many older men experience some restriction in pee stream from an expanding prostate. I have discovered that doing this once a week, which I do, has "relieved" the flow noticeably and I pee like an 18 year old.

I'm not sure vibration would improve this because the internal movements (stroke and roll) of the sound are very effective. What might improve the experience would be ribs on the sound (the 12 mm dipstick is far too wide for me) Better would be annular ribs (like a barber pole) because they would give sensation from both motions. Hemispherical bumps would too.

Just tried this for the first time the other day. my play doc inserted a sound in me, then used a vibrator touching it to the part sticking out of me..... definitely the most intense orgasm i've ever experienced!!!

we used a very small sound at first, just to make sure i was comfortable.

I have a Van Buren type sound that once fully inserted into the prostate gives mind blowing pleasure similar to an orgasm. With a gentle twist to the left, right or rocking it back and forth, it stimulates my prostate so well that sometimes I don't even need to ejaculate afterward. I have done it for 8 hours straight one time without discomfort or lost of pleasure. Unlike other type of sex play, your prostate gets more sensitive and pleasured the more you stimulate yourself. Often, I would pull my underwear over the sound so it gets pushed more firmly into a certain area that feels the best and I can just sit and enjoy the intense sensations hands free.

Well, the inside of the urethra is intensely sensitive. That is why urethral play is so addictive to its practitioners. I do not believe it reduces the ability to reach orgasm through more ordinary means.

Speed

I am new to sounding, and would like to experiment with someone experienced. The idea of undergoing such a procedure, preferably restrained, excites me!

Any risks when getting very aroused, and a very stiff erection?

My nurse (who actually is one) insists on LOTS of lube when sounding. She puts in at least 6cc at the begining and 3cc everytime the sound comes out or is changed. It can get a bit messy but I never have any pain.

I love sounding the little bit of pain after is all worth it the feeling of the cold steel stretching my urethra is something that i will never get sick of experiencing

I have been playing with cath's and sounds for awhile now. I can take a 30fr sound all the way to the bladder. What a feeling it is when you have that deep. Going to get some of the larger sounds like Heager so I can stretch the opening bigger.

I do not own an autoclave any longer, so I use a cold sterilant solution. I prefer Mar-V-cide which is available at most barber and beauty supply companies. I usually get mine online, but not always from the same place.

I mix up a batch and, after cleaning the sound(s) with soap and water, put it(them) in a solution mixed to the directions on the container and let it soak for at least 20 minutes.

Doc

I had a bad experience with a foley catheter and was reluctant to try sounding but was convinced to try it by a professional dom. She knew what she was doing and the experience was not at all painful. I have agreed that she may do it again in a future session at her pleasure, am looking forward to it.

Definitely should not hurt more than a few hours after - unless your urine is way too concentrated. Definitely drink lots of water (or cranberry juice). Use LOTS of lubircation and follow standard methods of insertion especially for the long curved types. Get an old urology book (ebay) for detailed instructions on the method. Try sounding yourself first to see how it feels before ever doing it to someone else. Your immediate feedback (pain) will sharpen your technique faster than anything!

I've been cathed 3 times and all of those times I experienced VERY painful burning upon urination for nearly 24 hours. But no discomfort at all when not urinating, only while doing so.

I did consume a rather large amount of vitamin C and cranberry juice each time before and after being catheterized in order to help prevent infection. I have never had a UTI. I think this is perfectly normal, especially because vitamin C / cranberry juice will make your urine much more acidic. This is good as far as preventing a UTI goes, but it does make your urine more painful to pass.

I've tried sounding and found that if I push to pee just as the sound penetrates the bladder I don't have as much burning later. I always have a little burning when I urinate for the first time after a sound is introduced.