Sounding sessions

Has anyone had experience with sounds? My wife wants me to try them and she says that men love the feel of the sound in their penis as it stimulates the prostate gland from the inside. But I am not sure about those metal rods.

Sounds feel wonderful if you are into urethral play. Make sure everything is sterile. Gradually work your way up to the larger sizes. I have taken a 26Fr. and it was great.

If you want to get really kinky, then purchase a TENS unit with a urethral probe. Again make sure it is sterile. Insert and then turn on the juice. Electrical prostate massage is very cool. I once had a domme max out the unit on me!! Keep it kinky!!

Sounds are lots of fun but as noted it is absolutely essential to be sterile.

Otherwise one risks an infection of the urinary tract and possibly the kidneys.

It is also quite easy to tear the inside of the penis through sounding.

That is why small-diameter sounds are being recommended.

I don't know if I would want to be talked into sounding.

Once I knew I wanted to try it I felt OK with the risks.

But I understood what was involved and what was required.

I too have tried them both alone and with a partner. Like enemas, with a partner is much more stimulating. The best description I can give is it feels a bit like electricity as it slides in. Not necessarily painful, but it makes you squirm a bit. Watching is a turn on particularly if she is enjoying it, good looking and naked! I have been told you can come with a sound in you, but I'm not sure how that would work. Try sounds. All the advice about being sterile apply.

RL

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Has anyone had experience with sounds? My wife wants me to try them and she says that men love the feel of the sound in their penis as it stimulates the prostate gland from the inside. But I am not sure about those metal rods.

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Yes, my mistress sounds me from time to time We both also enjoy the the site of the sound stretching my pee hole open. She is slowly stretching me and she hopes to be able to insert he finger or other things in me some time soon. So far we are up to a #12(12mm?)One other thing she does to me when we go out to clubs and parties is she plugs the end of my boy clit with a pee hole plug and lock in place just behind the head ridge. When I need to go I must ask her to unlock me, other times she makes me tell others that she has pluged me and have them ask her for the key.

Go slow, use lots of sterile lube (we use surgie-lube sp?) Before do a sounding she has me drink lots of water. When she is done sounding me, she forces me to come then she makes me piss as hard has I can to clear out the lub

Sound. A smooth metal rod of varying length and diameter. With lube injected into the penis meatus the metal rod is slowly pushed down the penis usually to the base. It is then worked back and forth for unusual inside feelings. Most male (female do this as well) sounds start out at about 1/4" OD. Do a Google search on urethral sounds to find out about the types and where they can be purchased.

I have over 30 assorted sounds myself. Many of us older sounders also allow the sounds (and many other toys) to enter prostate and even bladder. Many of us can retain these sounds or toys for great lengths of time - even overnight. For men, the curved area I call Cobb's Curve is hard for a straight sound to go around. So, I have learned to put a finger in anus and feel the end of the sound as I work it around this more tender area and then a careful pushing down of sound to allow it to go upward to enter bladder mouth works well - just don't let go of sound until it enters the bladder or else it slides out with pain. Once around Cobb's Curve the sound enters the prostate for play there or one can do a downward push with the sound to drive it deeper and into bladder. With a filled bladder one can take 2 - 5" more of the sound into the urinary system. Some of us use curving sounds that actually lock into place with nothing showing on outside and can even have normal sex with them in place.

When an enema is added to the inserted sound the extra pressure is usually just to much for a newcomer and they either get prostate milked or ejaculate on the spot.

Take care doing this, go slow, and keep very, very, very clean. Wear latex gloves whenever possible.

Diddlestik

I am ordering a set of sounds very soon, and a mistress friend of mine in the community that specializes in CBT is going to train my lady on how to use them, and then eventually I can convince my lady to let me sound her. Here is the deal with sounds: Much the way a man can get an orgasm from prostatic stimulation, they can also climax from internal prostate and urethral stimulation from the inside using sounds. Sounds were devoloped to dilate the urethra to help people with bad VD and to get sex addicts off. Female ones are for uterine dilation and urethral play, the latter which can be pleasurable is carefully done. I have never tried it, but while researching medical stuff, read a bunch of stuff that made me curious. Supposedly you can get slowly jacked off from the inside of your penis if the mistress is gentle and knowledgable. Feel free to ask more questions, and I will do my best to answer them.

Naughtydoc

Never used them to date, but I will let you know as soon as I do. As for if they make a sound...nope- wrong kind of sound- they mean sound as in plumbing the depths of the ocean or sounding the urethra. Now, some people hold a tuning fork or another vibrating obect to the sound to create a stimulation effect, but you must be real careful when doing this. Again, I will know more in a month or so after I try it out.

Naughtydoc

A "sound" makes no sound. In surgery, when you "sound" something, you usually push against a structure until the instrument doesn't go any further. A sound can be used as a uterine/cervical dilator, but it doesn't have to be. A sound can be used to measure the depth of an anatomical structure. When using sounds on my husband, I am extremely careful to use sterilized instruments and sterile lubricants. You should wear gloves and have extremely clean hands and genitals when attempting to use sounds or catheters. We have the solid metal and bud end type sounds that he loves being inserted into his penis. The thin, bud end sounds, you can pre-curve and get all the way into the bladder. YOU MUST DO THIS PROPERLY OR YOU WILL RUPTURE THE URETHRA AND YOU CAN RUIN HIS PENIS AND URETHRA FOR LIFE. You can easily cause bleeding in the urethra if you use too large or an improperly curved sound. With care, the solid type can be inserted several inches, and you can masturbate your man while it stays there. The ejaculate gives a back pressure against the sound, so he will feel the ejaculation, but it may not come out until the sound is removed or it seeps around it and comes out through the urethra. It is also fun to just push the sound in and out several inches--kind of fucking the penis from the inside. WARNING: INFECTIONS CAN EASILY RESULT. Use of catheters or sounds as they go through the prostate gives most men a very interesting feeling. My husband says it is a little like an orgasm in reverse. People who have "virgin urethras" will definitely have pain or burning when they urinate for a while, until the inside of the urethra toughens up.

As far as using sounds on your girlfriends, I would not recommend it for most people. My husband has used sounds and catheterized me many times and used sounds on me over the years, but I would not recommend that for most people because women are much more susceptible than men to infections that just won't go away. It is a good idea to know a so called "kink friendly" physician because you may come to need one, and they will ask you how you got your infection. They do have ideas about how people get them, so holding back won't necessarily hide your kinks from them.

As far as safety is concerned, it is much safer to play with urethral catheters than sounds because they are rubber and will flex and follow the curves in the penis and you won't have to worry about tearing anything, which is a real concern and potentially severe problem with sounds.

Thanks Switchablesusie. Great answer. The possibility of infection is worth considerable elvaluation. Do you know if the sensual feelings are similar to a cather?

^^^^Yes, the sensations inside the urethra are virtually the same with catheters and sounds. The only difference is the rigidity of the sound vs the flexibility of the catheter going around curves, which of course, a rigid sound cannot do unless it it pre-curved to follow the path in the man. In the woman, where the urethra is straight and only only 1 1/2" long, the rigid sound won't harm the urethra. In the man, where the length is between 8-16 inches depending on the size of the man and his penis and whether it is erect or not, you better know where the sound is going and the anatomy and shape of the urethra and how the sound is curved or else you will puncture the urethra if you use too much force.

If you think you are careful about not forcing a colon tube up your behind, sounds bring a whole new meaning to being careful and not using too much force when inserting it into a penis. Like I already said, sounds go into a woman fairly easily because the urethra is so short, but be very clean and be careful not to cause infections in either of you.

Play carefully boys and girls! 😁

Switchablesusie,

I agree that you must be careful when using sounds. Although I have never inserted one into someone else, I have had them used on me on several occasions. I love the feeling (after the first time) of it going in and out. It really burned the first time but I think I was kind of tense. The women that have used them on me have gone very slow and let the weight of the sound in a vertical position while holding my penis vertical determine the insertion rate. They used lots of lube and just tapped on the side of the sound as it went in. They never pushed on it. I have also had a clean rectal thermometer inserted several inches into my penis without any ill effects. I have never had a catheter in a play situation but would be willing to try it with someone who was experienced. I envy your husband!

Temperatureboy

I have never yet used a sound but have inserted foley catheters several times. I enjoy this from time to time. I got a supply of sterile foley's. The first few times of insertions were uncomfortable but not painful. I inflated the balloon on the cath with water and kept them in place for an hour or so. They aren't as uncomfortable now but I use common sense and don't do this too often. Also clean the penis and hands before attempting. Infections can and do occur. I have managed to avoid them so far. It is an unusual feeling and definately very erotic. On a few occasions I have ejaculated with them in. Every time the cum leaked out around the cath. It's also a strange feeling to never have any pee build up if you allow it to drain constantly. I use a no. 12 or no. 14 fr. cath. which are fairly small diameter. They go in pretty easy with enough lube.

Depending on the size you have opened up or stretched your urethra with sounds, catheters, and other urethral jewelry, you will also reduce your "shooting distance" when you cum.

MORE CAUTIONS WITH SOUNDS:

When you use catheters or sounds for increasing size the size of the urethral meatus, the meatal orifice becomes flaccid. For girls, that means during sex or other activities, you are more likely to easily push bacteria into the urethra and bladder. For guys it means more bacteria can also get pressed into the urethra and as I mentioned before, a decreased shooting distance when you cum. Too much widening or dilation of the sphincter in either sex will weaken the ability of the sphincter to hold a lot of urine.

I've been sounding for 3-5 years now....strongly suggest that you don't commence this play unless you're graduating from catheter play. Catheters are flexible and are a great start to urethral play. Articles on both can be found on a commercial website chaseunion.com.

Play safe and be well.

I have been sounding, well before I knew what is was called.

I guess I started off slow & gentle & was sensibly cautious. Now I have a better understanding of what my body can take, I have a much better time.

Nothing to be scared of unless you forgot your commonsense.

^^^^ The first thing to do is to clean off all residue of lubricant and exfoliated cells from the sounds after use.

The best thing is an autoclave, inside a sterilizing pack, which normal people don't have. Next best is a pressure cooker running at 15 psi for 20 minutes, which is the same as an autoclave. Third best would be boiling for 30 minutes.

When you take the sounds out of the boiling water, let them dry on a very clean paper towel until cool, then wrap in the clean paper towel. DO NOT touch them with your hands.

You can also use dry heat. One hour wrapped in aluminum foil (paper might scorch) at 350 degrees for one hour in an oven would also be first rate, and possibly best for the "homeowner" who does not have a real autoclave. Unwrap when you are ready to use it.

By the way, DO NOT sterilize catheters using dry heat in a 350 degree oven. You will most likely destroy them. Use boiling water or pressure cooker for them.

I have tried catheter play and found it quite pleasurable; however I sure to use lots of lube and go very slowly. It's also nice to not have to get up and use the bathroom while you are watching TV when you use the whole apparatus. :😃

If you use an appropriately sized catheter, plenty of lubricant and know how to do it, it is not painful. I don't have any pain when the catheter is inserted, and my husband will tell you it feels good, and he has described the sensation as "an orgasm in reverse" as the catheter goes through the prostatic portion of the urethra. There are also nerve endings throughout the urethra, especially in the male, which produce very pleasurable sensations. You and he will know you are in the prostatic urethra because there is an increase in resistance as you insert the catheter, followed by a decrease in resistance as it slips into the bladder. The catheter will go in about 8-10 inches (when flaccid) depending on the length of the penis and whether or not is erect when it is inserted. Obviously this length will be somewhat more if he is erect.

Stuff about pain: We generally hear horror stories about how catheterization hurts like hell. No one comes back from their physician and says it was no big deal. There are two good reasons for this. The first is no one wants to be labeled a perv by saying it was pleasurable (people like sympathy points) and second, most people having it done by their physician typically have a bladder or urethral infection, or some other problem, and then it will hurt. A healthy bladder and urethra will not have pain when a catheter is properly inserted. That’s why people like doing it!

Here are the caveats. Heed them:

Clean your hands (gloves are good) and the penis thoroughly with soap and water, then swab with betadine over the head of the penis. For yourself, clean your partner’s hands, your hands and vulva, your hair too if not shaved) and swab with betadine.

Use a new, sterile catheter every time. While you can use KY from a tube, a sterile one dose foil pack is best.

For a man you have never catheterized before, a 16 Fr sized catheter is the best starting point. If that goes in very easily and you want to go larger, go to 18 Fr, then 20 Fr and so on. Do not jump sizes. Do not assume that just because the penis is large that the urethra will also be wide in diameter. If you start too large, you may cause irritation and/or bleeding, and unless you and your partner are into blood (some people are, but this is not a good part of the anatomy for blood sports) this might be the last time your man will allow you to do this.

For yourself, a good starting point would also be the 16-18 French size. Prior to inserting the catheter, wash the vulva well with soap and water. You can also swab the area with betadine. The female urethra is slightly larger in diameter than the male. To insert the catheter, lubricate the orifice of the urethra with a blob KY and coat the end couple of inches of the catheter. You’ll feel the tip enter the orifice and slowly insert it. You will feel a little resistance increase as you pass through the sphincter, then it will slip right into the bladder. The female urethra is only about an inch and a half or two long, so you’ll get right in. Have a bowl or container of sorts ready, because you will have a “champagne” fountain of urine to collect.

For your man, after cleaning with soap and water and betadine, place a blob of KY on the tip of the penis (no such thing as too much lube) and the end few inches of the catheter. Another method of lubrication is to squeeze about 2-3cc of KY directly from the tube into a syringe WITHOUT THE NEEDLE. Then, use the syringe to squirt the KY into the urethra. DO NOT squeeze KY from the tube directly into the urethra. Doing that will contaminate the entire tube. This gives a layer of lubricant inside the entire urethra. Slowly insert the catheter. Here is where it can be tricky, after it goes in the length of the penis, lift the penis up into the position it takes when it becomes erect, because that will straighten out the urethra and it will go in much more smoothly and with less irritation than if you kept the penis down. After it is in about 8-10 inches or so, depending on the length of the penis, you will feel the resistance increase as you get to the prostatic portion. He will be able to tell you it is there, (that’s the reverse orgasm sensation) then after another inch or so, you’ll be in the bladder, so have a container ready for the flow!

If you need to add more lube to a catheter, go ahead. DO NOT USE SALIVA. It will introduce mouth bacteria to areas that never experience them, and infection will result

After this kind of play, especially if you have "virgin urethras" you will probably notice a little burn afterwards for a day or two when you urinate. This is normal and doesn't mean anything is wrong. If you become experienced with urethral play--catheters and sounds and the like, you won't have that sensation when you pee afterwards. If burning persists, you might need an antibiotic. This type of play is not without its risks.

Insertion of sounds is the same as catheters with one great exception: Catheters are flexible and will follow the curves inside the anatomy. A sound is a rigid piece of metal. In women the sounds are fairly easily inserted into the bladder because the urethra is short and fairly straight. Some types of sounds are straight and they will NOT make it into the bladder in men because the urethra is curved like a "J" as you go underneath the scrotal area and curve back up towards the bladder. Other sounds are "J" shaped, and with careful practice you will learn to introduce them into the bladder. After passing through the penis and passing the tip downward, you will need to direct the sound around the curve by taking the handle of the sound and pulling it away from the abdominal area so the tip follows the urethral path back up to the bladder. Again, as with the catheter, as you reach the prostatic portion of the urethra, you and he will feel the sound meet some resistance and then slide into the bladder.

Have fun, be careful, stop if there is real resistance and be good to one another.

Sounds can be great fun when your partner knows what they are doing. Most sounds that people use today are not sounds at all but rather dilators. Sounds were used by urologists to tell the depth of a males bladder, but those day are far gone. Nowadays, anything that is metal and oblong shaped can and is called a sound. Most sounds are not long enough to reach the bladder, but will be long enough to reach the prostatic urethra where there can be some referred prostate stimulation. Basic sterile technique should be used when playing with sounds.

Have had sounds and cathters used on me several times and purchased several for self use, unfortunately. I don't use over 18 french on myself so I do not have any retention or long term stretching problems. An utter devine feeling when sounding.

Susie, I love reading your posts. Your advice is spot on, your tone is warm, informative, and not condecending. You should be giving classes or writing books. Thanks for all you have posted here.

Susie's advice is excellent,however, this procedure is risky.

You run the risk of a very serious UTI than can be very difficult and expensive to resolve.

I have had the pleasure of being cathed once just to see what it felt like, although I have not tried sounding the feeling was intense and awesome at the same time, like an itch that you found a way to scratch. Looking forward to trying it again soon.

My enema "nurse" used a sound on me. It didn't cause much of a sensation at all...a waste of time. If you do this, make absolutely certain the sound or catherter are sterile, please.

I recently bought a set of sounds from a garage sale. They came in a metal case lined in red velvet they are old and used. My question is should i even mess with them or could they be sterilized some how. I don't have a pressure cooker to sterilize them with. Anybody got some input here. thanks

To all of you who are interested in sounds but are afraid of them (and with good reason) because they are hard metal objects going up a very fragile, sensitive and easily infected place, I strongly recommend using catheters. Start with a 16Fr size and you can slowly work up in size if you like, but it isn't necessary. Listen to your body if it cries out "pain". This size catheter will give about the same sensation as the urethra being penetrated by a sound, and it will follow the internal curves of your body. BEWARE though. catheters should be used only once or STERILIZED between uses because the inside of the cath can harbour bacteria (you can't scrub clean the inside of a catheter), unlike a sound that is solid and whose surfaces can all be thoroughly cleaned with soap and water without sterilizing (at least if you are only using it on yourself.

Hmmmm... that's iffy. Depending on how old they are, they might not even be stainless steel. And even if they are stainless steel, they might have started to pit... giving bacteria ample chance to grow.

Ordinarily I would say "anything can be sterilized"... but in this case, you just have no idea how they were treated and what they've been through. I'm not sure I would take a chance. Especially if you don't have access to an autoclave.

Better to not even go there, and, instead, find a good "new in box" set on eBay (plenty of them there - from acorn/rosebud, to Dittel, to the awesome van burens and even vibrating sounds). Then just keep your garage sale find as conversation pieces on your coffee table ;-)

Once you're all set, have fun!

I thought I answered this yesterday, but the post isn't here.

This is what to do:

Clean the sounds very well so they are completely smooth and shiny.

Then since you don't have an autoclave, you can use dry heat, which is every bit as good as a steam autoclave for metal objects. A medical dry heat sterilizer uses 350F for 60 minutes.

I would wrap each sound individually in aluminum foil as a protective wrap.

Then preheat the oven to 350F and put in the sounds for 90 minutes and lay them out in the wraps on the oven racks in a single layer.

Since it is a kitchen oven rather than a medical sterilizer and run a 90 minute cycle (not just 60). DO NOT OPEN THE OVEN DOOR DURING THE 90 MINUTES.

ONLY STORE STERILIZED SOUNDS IN THE WRAPS THEY WERE STERILIZED IN AND DO NOT UNWRAP THEM UNTIL JUST BEFORE USE. NEVER STORE THEM UNWRAPPED IN THE VELVET CASE.