Sounding sessions

Susie's instructions "sound" spot on.

I'd still be a little apprehensive about these being old and from a garage sale. Like I said, you just have no idea what they've been through (literally and figuratively). But, I may be just a little paranoid.

If you're gonna do it at all, short of an autoclave, susie's method is the way to go.

Another alternative is I've heard there are places that will sterilize for you. I haven't actually found any myself in what little looking I've done, but I hear they're out there. Might be worth a Google.

I never thought about Susie's oven method for metal items. Good idea! You can check them with a magnet to see if they are stainless steel. While a magnet will stick to some stainless steel, most of the best corrosion resistant alloys like 316 are nonmagnetic. I use a buffing wheel to polish metal for restoration projects. It will polish stainless steel like a mirror!

If you are going to play with sounds, please make sure you know what you are doing. I would recommend only using new equipment properly sterilized. I would be very concerned using the equipment you described without knowing the history.

I have had a series of sounds of various sizes used on me by my urologist to help enlarge the bladder opening and the urethra. It was not a pleasant procedure and was very uncomfortable and was quite bloody.

I definitely would not recommend anyone but an expert to do this to you and then only for medical reasons.

It would be really difficult to massage the prostate this way.

^^^^ You must use sterile technique to avoid infection with sounds and catheters. That means using gloves, scrupulous cleaning of the penis/vaginal area and especially the area around the meatus before insertion, sterile sounds and sterile lubricant.

I like to include sounds in my fetish play exams. I find many of my patients freak out at the thought of a metal rod going down their pee hole. Any other fetish dr's have insite on incorporating sounds in the exam experience with play patients?

Ms. Noir

Hi I'm new to the site and would just like to say that although I love the sensation of Catheters and sounds being inserted I did have a bad experience with quite a nasty bleed. I don't know if it was badly done or if I was just sensitive - if any one can shed any light I'd be very interested.

From ms noir az

I like to include sounds in my fetish play exams. I find many of my patients freak out at the thought of a metal rod going down their pee hole. Any other fetish dr's have insite on incorporating sounds in the exam experience with play patients?

Ms. Noir

I am not a med play doctor or a patient, I just enjoy med play. I am one of those men who enjoy gentle,sensual urethral penetration/play and gentle enemas as part of fore/sex play. I am also one of those men who would find it wonderful to find a woman who enjoys having that done along with gentle tender enemas. People like myself don't "freak out", we become extremely aroused, as do some women when there is an environment of mutual trust and giving and receiving. 😃

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brn_wiseman

Hi I'm new to the site and would just like to say that although I love the sensation of Catheters and sounds being inserted I did have a bad experience with quite a nasty bleed. I don't know if it was badly done or if I was just sensitive - if any one can shed any light I'd be very interested.

brn_wiseman,

If you had a "nasty bleed" as you put it, something was/is not right. You either had a urinary infection, or did damage to yourself, or both. I have include the location of a posting I made on this topic elsewhere on this board, it is reply #10............

...http://www.eroticclinic.com/forum/index.php?topic=15.msg130#msg130......

....Medical Fetish / Gynaecological Examination / Re: Pee hole play....

GN. 😃

Tomorrow I have my first sound at a medplay. The nurse is specialised in mediplay. She told me that she won't try hard if the sound won't go in easily. So I think she will be careful. But I'm a little afraid of the pain. As i read some messages on the forum, some say it hurt and some say it don't. What do I have to think now? Does it heart or not? Does it feel painful afterwords?

It might hurt and might be painful afterwards. It might not. You'll let us know. Everyone is different. It also depends on the size and shape of the instruments she uses. I hope you have at least used catheters before sounds so you have an idea of what to expect. Sounds can cause much more damage than catheters. Start with 14-16 Fr catheters.

Dr gyno,

suggest you agree with the nurse to start small, maybe with a 5.5m or 6.0m sound....and with plenty of KY or surgilube. if you're a first timer, the sound should be a straight sound, not one with a bulbous tip or a curved end. relax, enjoy, and tell us how you fare.

I use a fr27 sound on myself. It is a very intense feeling as the sound lowers into my penis. As I am the only one to ever use the sound I reduce my risk of infection. I use my saliva as a lubricant. I have use various other probucts (analeze, KY, etc) but found that it tends to sting more than my own natural saliva.

I would be interested in getting a larger sound for further streching but do not want a full kit.

Using anybody's saliva to lubricate a sound or catheter is such a BAD idea, I can't even find the words to express it. Saliva contains bacteria that the deeper parts of your GU tract have no experience with and you can get horrible infections from that in your bladder>>>kidney, prostate and testicles, especially in the epididymis. Use KY or other sterile lube. Even a "sex shop" lube is better than saliva. Women can also get very severe infections if saliva is forced into the bladder on a catheter or sound.

By the way, in general, I wouldn't suggest most men use a 27Fr sound or catheter, especially without spending a lot of time (months at least) stretching their urethra. Forcing something that large will definitely cause severe damage and injury.

Geez...I sincerely hope that a couple of posters take the wise counsel of other posters and get some medical advice before they hurt themselves or someone else. Please! You do not, repeat NOT, want to get a serious urinary tract or bladder infection. They are at times resistant to antibiotics and difficult to get rid of. Trust me, as I know this the hard way. These infections are extremely unpleasant. Also, unless properly and promptly treated, they can be dangerous.

Using anybody's saliva to lubricate a sound or catheter is such a BAD idea, I can't even find the words to express it. Saliva contains bacteria that the deeper parts of your GU tract have no experience with and you can get horrible infections from that in your bladder>>>kidney, prostate and testicles, especially in the epididymis. Use KY or other sterile lube. Even a "sex shop" lube is better than saliva. Women can also get very severe infections if saliva is forced into the bladder on a catheter or sound.

By the way, in general, I wouldn't suggest most men use a 27Fr sound or catheter, especially without spending a lot of time (months at least) stretching their urethra. Forcing something that large will definitely cause severe damage and injury.

In addition to Susie's prudent and sensible response,you will find the following to be true no matter how long you spend gradually stretching your urethra.

After a certain point, when you need to empty your bladder or ejaculate, your urine will dribble/pour/seep with no stream and reduced continence control, your semen will ooze with no spurting at orgasm...it is fact, it is permanent. I have met people over the years who have experienced this and my medical friends substantiate. Anything that goes into my urethra is always slightly smaller than the inner diameter...period...no if's...and's...or but's.

Comments welcome.

GN

Sounding help please.

I have a set of 'rosebud' sounds.

I have tried to insert them - the first four sizes - while they were straight and even when inserted deeply and the penis pulled down which should provide a straight direction to prostate / bladder I can not get past what is I think the beginning of the prostate. I know the feeling as I have used catheters on occasion. I bent the last 3-4 inches of the sounds and with gently manipulation still can't get past this block.

Any suggestions please & thanks.

Roy

OH MY GOD!! You need help with this before you destroy your urethra!!

First of all, even when inserting a catheter, you need to hold the penis UP like the erection position for the straightest path inserting a catheter. That goes double for sounds. Take a look at a cross sectional anatomy chart.

http://www.drstandley.com/images/male.gif

Second, while the rosebud sounds are straight when you buy them, you need to curve the end four or five inches, into a nice smooth quarter circle of an arc. Hold your lubricated penis UP and insert the sound going downward and by sort of rotating the handle of the sound down and away from your abdominal wall. In doing this, the curve, which as you look down on the sound, should point towards you, kind of like the letter 'J' pointing towards you. This curve must point towards you to get through and past the prostate and into the bladder.

Good luck in your efforts and PLEASE BE CAREFUL.

sorry for being naive but what are sounds for?

You jam them up your pecker and they are supposed to feel good! 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist that. Lots of people, especially men, LOVE the ways sounds feel as they go through the urethra and especially the prostate area. They were originally used as dilators to stretch the urethra which may have scarred and constricted after bouts of gonorrhea or other venereal diseases, making urination painful or slow or difficult. Now that we have antibiotics, they aren't needed so much for their original purpose, and we just use them as toys.

Switchablesusie,

THANKS for the good info & quick response.

I'm very careful with sterile technique and gentle insertion and play infrequently.

The reason I attempted to insert further after 2/3 length was in is that at that position it would seem to approximate the insertion of straight cystoscopes. Your advice to curve the shaft further down & keep the penis up worked very well. THANKS again for the good advice.

^^^^ Roy, you're welcome. I hope you had a fun time! 😁 😁

I understand that some people find sounds and cathetarization stimulating. I personally don't, but Susie's points about sterilization are so important for everyone to heed.

When I was in my teens I had a urinary tract/bladder infection that for whatever reason, was not fully treated with a course of antibiotics. A low level infection lingered then eventually moved into one of my kidneys and festered for about 6 months. I was unaware and didn't have any symptoms. To make a long story short, I ended up getting a nephrectomy - the kidney couldn't be saved. I was a healthy teenager - not prone to infections or health problems.

My point in mentioning this episode is this...do not underestimate the potential consequences of this type of play. Take every necessary precaution wrt to sterilization and safety.

Arianna

. . . . I ended up getting a nephrectomy - the kidney couldn't be saved. . . . .

My point in mentioning this episode is this...do not underestimate the potential consequences of this type of play. Take every necessary precaution wrt to sterilization and safety.

Arianna

I'm sorry to hear about your dire consequences of a bladder/kidney infection, that really brings the importance of sterile technique to the fore. Everyone should heed the warnings about being sterile in this kind of play. It can be the difference between life and death if things get out of hand.

BUT, Arianna, your mentioning of the nephrectomy reminded me of a little known trivial persuit question:

If the removal of a kidney is a nephrectomy, and the removal of of the gall bladder is a cholecystectomy, and the removal of the appendix is an appendectomy, then what is the name of the female to male sex change operation????

It's an addadictomy!

Sorry, I couldn't resist that one! 😁 😁 😁

The best part of sound play for me besides the great feeling of sliding thru my prostate is the look on my lovers face as she watches it slide down my penis rotating slowly on its own I have seen her come multiple times just watching it

I'm going to be experiencing urethral sounds in tandem with a tens for the first time ever with someone new to me. Anything I should ask him first? Is there something I can do to mentally or physically prepare for this? Is this going to leave me open to a UTI? What is the intensity of pain involved?

1. You will read everywhere here about sterilization of devices. They say it better than I do.

2. You can infect yourself without introducing foreign bacteria. While the urethra and bladder are sanitary, they are not designed to resist disease, while your vulva may may be a veritable garden of bacteria, all of which it can protect itself from. There are secretions from the Skenes glands at the entrance of the urethra which provide a barrier to bacteria entering, but a sound will bring bacteria through. So cleanse your vulva just as though you were having surgery which, in effect, you are.

3. The sphincter at the entrance to the bladder is not designed to pass a 5mm+ instrument, and doing it repeatedly will run you the risk of incontinence now or in the future. If you are experimenting for sexual stimulation, the urethra passes behind the grafenburg (G) spot and sounding with tens there could put some spring in your step, without penetrating the bladder. Undoubtedly, a session of experimentation will teach you the sensation of entering the bladder so that you can stop before that when you choose.

4. Be sure to "save" some pee to release after your session. It will cleanse you from the inside out.

5. If you do this, please video with a good cam and plenty of light. I will find it exciting to watch.

My play friend/mistress sounds me from time to time as part of our water sports play. We are trying to make my pee hole bigger so I have a larger stream. At other times she put a plug in my pee hole and makes me leave it in for hours.

My play friend/mistress sounds me from time to time as part of our water sports play. We are trying to make my pee hole bigger so I have a larger stream. At other times she put a plug in my pee hole and makes me leave it in for hours.

^^^^ Be prepared to have a more "sprinkly" urine stream, especially as you get older and your urinating pressure become lower. The tip of the penis is remarkably well designed to be kind of folded closed (left and right surfaces contacting) when not urinating and to open and allow the stream to flow. The surface geometry of the tip of the urethra is such that it creates the kind of flat urine stream. That may change for the worse after you begin stretching it.

Forewarned is forearmed.

Using a sound going solo, I have achieved several involuntary orgasms. The key for me is to relax as much as possible while inserting, and believe it or not , to stay flaccid. While getting the orgasm I slowly withdraw the sound and it really intensifies the feeling!! If you get a raging hard on, this could be dangerous to try, best to not get a nut in this condition, but try while not fully hard. Sounds nutty , but works for me.

I have used a straight dittel, 4-5mm, starting completely flaccid. With a thin water-base lube like Astroglide, I was able to reach the prostate region effortlessly. There must be a slight bottleneck there, because it is easy to know I have reached it. The sensation is something below "feeling" and more like "just knowing".

"Fucking" that region with the sound, with an overall stroke of two inches rapidly brings on ejaculation. It's not exactly involuntary, but it certainly seems like cheating because only light outside stroking is needed and without any masturbation fantasy. It comes on quickly enough so that erection is still only starting. The intensity of contractions seem greater that "normal" sex.

I'm no expert on this, but there seems to be one pre-ejaculation contraction that I assume is to purge the tube of pee with fluid of correct pH. When that happens, I extract the sound to stay ahead of ejaculation. Since the sound holds the tube open, it can take two or three contractions to fill it, so I have the sound out at the end of the second. That gives a pleasurable slightly burning sensation that improves the experience.

If technology and technique were applied to doing this, I think it could be superior to e-stim because of how nerves function. In another post, I suggested a urethral stimulation device like this:

The device which would consist of a (not too) 4mm flexible rounded-tip tube connected to a pumping device that would alternately inflate (perhaps another 3mm overall) and then release the pressure as a form of speed controllable internal vibration/pressure. It would stimulate the prostate internally and could be combined with in/out motion or be inserted and used hands free.

Then I would train my nurse-lover to do it for me.............

I sound to have a more intense ejaculation. Two things I have noticed are:

Once the sound has reached the the prostate, there is some sort of "stealth" stimulation. What I mean is that, while I slide the sound in and out at the right spot, perhaps only an inch total of motion, the sensation is not overly intense, but my insides respond as though it was....rapid erection, building of tension and stronger contractions. Some kind of automatic response. This is what keeps me doing it.

Temperature differential is good. Not heat, but chill. Since a sound holds room temperature, its about 30 degrees cooler that my insides, which can be felt all the way in. I have even chilled the sound in the fridge, to maybe 45f which, oddly, gives a well tolerated burning sensation that intensifies the experience with no after effects.

For those into sounding, what are your favorite types of sounds? What sizes seem to work for you - recognizing of course that one size does not fit all.

For general use, I find Pratt Dilators to be very good. Plenty of length, a bit of curve and there are a wide range of sizes in a set. When I was using them more often, I could take a 31 Fr. all the way to the bladder. Now, I find a 27 is about the limit.

Speed