Colonic Hydrotherapy

This one is a tough call. Women are subtle creatures so you never really know for sure.

Usually if they are klismaphiles they will drop little hints like saying that they enjoy "feeling warm and full". But they aren't really going to advertise that its turning them on sexually.

As a surgical prep orderly in my 20s and as owner of a colonic clinic for many years, I'd have to say that about half of our clients (men and women) were "into" the experience sensually (you can tell!). And mostly men came to my female therapists, and (surprisingly) nearly half of my patients were female. Most of the latter loved the experience in a sensualy way.

Of course males account for the majority of every fetish because that's just the way it is. But you have to remember that colonics are popular as a trendy health treatment and are not looked upon as fetishistic by those who use them for that purpose. Any discomfort or embarrassing aspects of it are able to be endured by those people in order to receive the perceived health benefits. The reason more women than men engage in colon hydrotherapy for health reasons is that it's not that big a deal for a woman to go to a clinic and have someone they don't know shove something in their pelvic region. They might consider the idea of it being "up the ass" potentially painful and unpleasant but it doesn't hold the "gay" stigma that many men attach to rectal invasion.

As far as females enjoying colonics for the sensual aspects, it'd be nice to imagine that but I feel a small minority of them actually engage in the process purely for the sexual benefits. A lot of people who have heavy enema fetishes don't even like colonics because they are too clinical and a woman can't necessarily lie on the table and masturbate if she's enjoying the process. So someone who enjoys colonics for the sexual side probably likes the clinical aspects and will think about them later.

I wouldn't be surprised, however, if a lot of hydrotherapists have fetishes to some degree. Matte1941--Does your girlfriend have any side interest in enemas/colonics apart from her job?

My therapists say probably 2 to 1 women and girls. I have never seen another man in the clinic, so I guess most come in after work. A couple women brought their young sons in because of a special problem like impaction, therapists say.

I don't do colonics as often as I once did, but I used to visit a therapist in various parts of the country when on vacation. Closed systems and disposable specula began to predominate after AIDS became an issue, but I did encounter one of the old-style stainless-steel specula a couple of years ago.

Most therapists had me wear an exam gown, and I'd say the practice of lubricating the patient "personally" with a finger before inserting the tube was about 50/50. I never had a problem with developing an erection, but the prostate usually secretes fluid when that warm water hits it, so I someties stained the front of the gown.

One or two of the therapists used to deal with the "preccum" issue by placing a towel in front of the gown, but I eventually addressed that problem by slipping on a condom when "dressing down". When one of the therapists noticed the condom wrapper in the wastebasket, I got a thanks for the consideration, and I usually admit now that I'm "fully covered" before the treatment starts ... it seems to put things at ease.

On one more memorable occasion, I went to a therapist who offered abdominal massage during the treatment, and since bodywork was the dominant theme of her practice, she simply had me cover myself "below the belt" with an oversized towel. As fate would have it, that was an occasion when the speculum fell out for a minute, but she managed to get everything back in place without exposing the "family jewels", or getting the table all wet.

Overall, I'm sure that everyone in that line of work has a story or two to tell

I would like to ask another question about colonics. I have never had a colonic and would like to know the difference between this procedure and an enema, besides the payment for services rendered.

A nozzle for a colonic is just a 3/4-1" tube with a connector that lets fresh water in and waste out. You hold it in with your anus. Sometimes they tie an elastic around your thigh or tape part of the tube to your thigh or butt to hep keep it in place. Leaks aren't a big problem.

There are two main types of colonic machines. In the "Closed" type colonic, you lay down on a table/bed and a therapist inserts a tube about an inch or less in diameter into your rectum about 2-4 inches. This tube is connected to a thinner water tube and water flows into your intestine. When you feel full, the therapist switches a valve on the colonic machine and the water and waste flows out of you. The tube is basically a Y shaped tube where one arm is thin-where clean water flows and the other two arms of the Y are thick where water and waste flows out. The tubes stay in you while you have a colonic. I like this type of system and have about three a year like this. The other is an "Open" type of system. In this, you lay down on the bed and there is a small nozzle about 1/2" or less in diameter that is inserted about 2-4 inches into the rectum. The water flows continuously with this system. When you want water to flow in, you just squeeze your anus closed against the nozzle. When you feel full and want to expell, the nozzle stays in also, and you just push out the water, just like with an enema. Open and closed system both work, but I like the closed much better. One of my complaints about the open system is that sometimes the waste pushes out the nozzle and you have to re-insert it during the colonic, This can happen a number of times during a treatment, and is one of the reason I don't like it. I also find the closed system to be much more relaxing. Other people might like the open type better.

Switchable Susie

Can you comment on the fact that the specula are available to practicioners but not to the general public? This embargo seems to be based on the idea that this is an invasive procedure. As such they are available only to practicioners in business and possibly by prescription from an MD. I have been able to obtain the specs for personal use, only after submitting a scrip to the manufacturer.

^^^^ You seem to be good with tools. You can make a speculum with either copper tubing and solder it together or you can use PVC and cement it. My husband has made both. The copper one is neat because it conducts heat well, but it can be heavy, the PVC one does not conduct heat well, but it is light in weight and if it falls in the bathroom will not break or chip tiles or porcelain fixtures like the copper one can.

Just to add to Susie's nice explanation of colonics:

The closed system has a good safety advantage in that the therapist is always with you during the procedure, typically 45 minutes or so.

At least after the first one, a lot of open system operators just leave the client and check in only periodically. Privacy and "control" seem to be why some prefer the open system, a couple of therapists have told me.

Here is a source for your very own colonic device. You can use it alone or with a "therapist." 😃

http://www.enemasupply.com/grinno.html

As good fortune would have it, I’ve been able to find a colon therapist who will administer enemas. I‘ve always preferred enemas over colonics because of the pleasant experiences I had with enemas as a child, but I found that getting enough water into colon to get a through cleanse was somewhat uncomfortable. During one of my recent sessions, my therapist asked if I had ever had a high enema using a colon tube. I never had, so she went on to tell me that with that kind of enema, it was easy to get water all the way up to cecum with little discomfort. The result would be a bowel cleansing that would be as good, if not better than a colonic. She said if I’d like to try it, go on line and buy a 36 inch, French 36 silicone colon tube along with a combination hot water bottle/enema bag that can be purchased at almost any pharmacy, and bring it along to our next session.

I was curious about what she described, so I took her advice, bought the equipment, and showed up for my next session ready to try something new.

After expelling the nice 1-1/2 quart soapy cleanse she gave me to clear any solids, I returned from the bathroom to find was I thought was a two quart bag swollen to almost double the size hanging on a hook high above the exam table! Attached was the long silicone “snake” that I knew would be going into me within minutes. She explained that she could get nearly four quarts of water into the “closed” bag using siphoning action. I had never had such a big enema before, so I was a little nervous about what was about to happen! She told me not to worry and assured me that I would enjoy getting “a nice, hot, soapy enema” like this!

Position for this enema would be different than what I was used to. She told me to get up on the table “on all fours”. I was completely naked with my butt in the air, and I could only imagine what was about to happen next! I heard her moving around behind me and soon I felt the cold KY being applied. Her smooth gloved finger slowly worked its way around my backside for a minute or so before she whispered ‘take a deep breath and relax’. As I exhaled, her finger found its target and began to slide in, spreading the lubrication deep inside. Soon her finger was replaced by the colon tube. In and out, deeper and deeper, the feeling was like nothing I’d ever felt before. She’d release a little water each time as she moved the tube in and out, which allowed it to glide in deeper and deeper. This went on for several minutes before the entire 36 inches was inside me and she began to let the rest of the water in. Soon I was feeling the hot, creamy liquid begin to fill my insides! My tummy began swelling with all that hot soapy water, but there was not the discomfort I was used to when mom would give me high enemas as a child. It took almost 15 minutes for me to take the whole bag, and when it was done I was more than ready to rush off to the toilet to release! I must say the liquid I saw in the toilet proved that there was a lot more nasty stuff in my colon than I ever would have imagined!

In the medical literature, I don't remember ever finding a write up on injury from a colon tube puncturing the colon, but there are incidents from a sigmoidiscope puncturing the bowel. If anyone has one please send it to me. This happened in medical clinic near where I was living once, but I don't think it was ever reported to be put in a medical journal.

I don't recommend the use of long hoses in the bowel. I do think there is a risk, but this has been done millions of times, and as I say I haven't found a record of an injury, but think there can be injury.

Another point, the pain of enemas is usually from constipation blocking the flow, the surging beyond the block, this causes pain. In an empty, healthful colon it should not be painful unless you inject or release to fast, or the water is too cold.

But if you are using a colon tube, either of these could still cause cramps, and a point of pleasure is the holding the surges in the rectum. Other than the sliding in and out of the tube, the sensation of having to hold it is missing, you feel the bloating, but not the surges until the water backs into the rectum.

And I agree, it is hard enough to take a medium enema alone, working the tube in and out would be far too much. These, I think, are not solo flights.

I once read that cramping or the urge to release was relative to the pressure in the sigmoid colon. With a normal enema or douche nozzle the maximum pressure point is where the water leaves the injection device, in this case at the rectum. The colon tube moves the maximum pressure point much further up in the bowel and the longer the tube the more water you can take before the urge is overpowering. When I go for a series I usualy use a nozzle and a quart or so of soapy water to clear most of the solids out. Then I use a 16 inch colon tube worked in to its full length while two quarts of the soapy water is flowing. If I am going for a three enema series the third one uses a 36 inch tube and three quarts of salty water. I have found that using colon tubes allows the retention of a lot more fluid before I have to release.

Years ago I used to go to a colon therapist who used a colon tube to clean out the colon. She had 2 large 5 gallon glass conical shaped jars which she filled with warm water in one and cool water in the other and she alternated between the two. She used a rather large speculum (maybe 1 1/2 inch diameter) which was designed to slip a colon tube into and your colon.Then she would let the water flow as she slowly inserted the colon tube the waste water was expelled out through the speculum. She used about a 4 foot long tube and said that she would work it around and into the ascending colon. It would take about 45 minutes and 30 gallons of water to complete the treatment. When she finished she would remove the speculum and reinsert the colon tube a couple inches and fill you up for a regular enema and send you to the toilet to empty your colon of Water. There was never any discomfort and it did a great job of cleaning out the colon

I thoroughly enjoy enemas, they have been a staple in my whole life's realm of enjoyment. As I grow older the amount of water I can tolerate is diminishing and my control has gotten a little less reliable. Since I have to go solo I have had to be on or near the commode, it is amazing how the stress of not having someone to worry about the administration increases the angst associated with the process. I have just gotten home from my mid winter colonic and my rosebud is still tingling. If I had the money I would have this enjoyable colonic every week. My therapist is experienced, calm and very relaxing, all of this really causes a diminishment in concerns about an accident. The colonics she administers are equivalent to 10 or more high volume enemas in about an hour and a half, all in a totally relaxed environment.

Speaking specifically to personal choices without going into tangents, I like both, with enemas,colon tubes, nozzles and associated equipment seeing more activity. If I had the room and the free discretionary financial resources, I would have both open and closed colonic systems in house along with a new system I have seen that has you positioned in a sitting/semi-reclining position. For a colon hydrotherapist,no matter how well trained, the erotic aspects are out of bounds for obvious reasons. The exceptions are there of course, just not the topic of my comment. Enemas provide for the prospect of personal sexual release, colonics in a reputable establishment do not. Enemas and colonics functionally provide the same results for me. Colonics with a closed system such as an older traditional "Dotolo" system with speculum done at home, can and does provide the potential for retention and associated sexual release. It involves quite a substantial cash outlay and the willingness to dedicate a section of your personal residence to the purpose, again directing to ones personal choices and preferences. 😃

G.N.

Usually there's nothing erotic about getting a colonic. But I can tell you first hand that getting a colonic is SO much more comfortable than most enemas. With a closed system colonic you have the added comfort and safety of controlled pressure. There also is no odors involved in these colonics, as everything goes down a sealed corrugated tube. You really have to carefully do a standard bag and nozzle enema just right to reach the same level of comfort you get with a colonic. It's sometimes hard to regulate the water inflow of an enema, so you often get cramping. And there's the risk you might have an accident("not make it to the loo in time").

There are some downsides to a colonic though. It can cost anywhere from $60 to $120 or more per visit. A 1" diameter nozzle called a speculum is lubricated and carefully inserted about 3-1/2" up the rectum. A good therapist can usually insert it without causing much if any discomfort. But a poorly trained therapist could potentially perforate the rectum by inserting the speculum in the wrong angle. I can assure you a that with a good therapist, that speculum will not hurt at all. That's why it is very important to find a reputable therapist with I-ACT certification. I personally like getting a colonic because it's very relaxing and makes you feel much better afterward. I think it also helps encourage perstalsis for people who have chronic constipation or sluggish bowels.

I find both enemas and colonics serve a purpose for me. As some have pointed out, enemas that are self administered or with a willing assistant, may permit more interaction from a sensual or sexual standpoint. The use of various enema bags or nozzles enhances the fetishistic aspect of my enema indulgences. After all, it was the good old fashioned enema and equipment that precipitated my lifelong love affair with enemas.

With my enema enjoyment, I have found that colonics provide a very relaxing cleansing session. Although the session does not provide the immediate release of pent up sexual tension, the experience and interaction with the therapist is frequently very enjoyable. I have been to therapists who are very good at what they do. A couple who I use most often, are very well versed in colon cleansing and aren't adverse to discussing the processes at length. They understand the uses of enemas as a good maintenance tool and probably have figured out the potential sensual or sexual side also.

One therapist, in particular, is quite witty and personable. She does 2 hour sessions that leave one squeaky clean. I used her services in advance of my most recent colonoscopy.

The things I enjoy the most about enema are the anticipation that one is coming, the insertion by a warm caring woman and the feeling of the warm water filling my bowels. With the enema, I consider expulsion a waste of time. With the colonic I just received I experienced anticipation from the time I made the appointment, the insertion of the large speculum and the wiggling of it while the tubes were connected by a warm woman, the filling feeling that happens around 8 to 10 times then the expulsion happens quickly and the feeling that comes when something solid goes through the speculum and causes it to pulse is an added benefit that doesn't happen with an enema.

Willy described my experience as well, and the closed system he speaks of is very familiar to me. Like him and many others here, I was brought up with enemas as needed _ and they always were, truthfully, but I like colonics more.

I am fortunate in that once or twice a year I am able to go to a therapist who will willingly give a prep enema to make the colonic that follows more effective, especially when there is impaction.

I was interested to read Unsure's comments on colonics. There are definite health benefits to them and reduction in the risk of colon cancer. I do wonder, as Unsure does, whether some of the hydrotherapists may not have various fetishes. Although I do not myself have medical fetishes, I image the whole situation of colonics, which is very "clinical", would greatly interest some people!

I think possibly the word "enema" has a negative connotation with many, where the word "colonic" connotes a more progressive upscale attitude, i.e many celebrities talk of going for colonics. So, in order to be a bit chic people are willing to go out and pay $60-$100 for a colonic irrigation session when they could stay at home with a $10 bag and have a great time! I have been for colonic irrigations with a therapist and my preference is the home treatment.

I think faultless50 is right on. A colon therapist told me recently that younger clients often consider the traditional enema to be old-fashioned and generally gross, but they have no problem with colonic irrigation, which is basically a super-sized enema. Trendiness no doubt is involved.

Having owned s colonic clinic for decades, and been to many meetings of colon therapy groups, about 90% or more of therapists are women, which is natural, after all moms give enemas, change diapers, and care for intimate needs of kids. Some dads do, but it is an overwhelmingly female job. Kids grow up to be adults (big kids) who want maternal care in this area.

With patients coming to the clinic, (and here we need to get real. In any medical practice the average number of women to men patients is about 80% women. Women, culturally and physically, require more medical maintenance, so any doctor other than docs speciallizing in male problems see more women than men) I estimate about 80-90% of my patients were women, and I hired female therapists to treat them. Many women and men insist on a female therapist, and a much smaller number insist on a male one.

Again the mom thing. In a culture where most diaper changing was done by men, I think the preferences would reverse. Here until recently we were programed that doctors were men, and nurses were women. People would not go to a female doctor or have a male nurse give them an enema. This is changing, but still somewhat present.

Briefly, practicing colon therapy for more than 30 years and talking to many other colon therapist over the years, it is more than 80% women patients, and over 90% women therapists.

And as I have said many times, where a fetish is involved, the enema is a feminine fetish, even though we all have underlying female brains so that both men and women can have the fetish. The male brain is an adaptation brought on by testosterone as we grow up, and both men and women can develope androgenic, male brains, and meat eating, milk drinking males may fail to develope male brains to match thier bodies, so it is not that simple. The fetish is in the brain, not the body.

That being said, my experience in talking to people is that the fetishes about enemas are about 90% women with the fetish. As always, men predominate in enema groups as they do in adult book stores. Just because 95% or more of the clients of adult book stores are men does not mean women are less interested in sex. It means that men in our society have been more free to express interest and be seen in chat rooms or adult book stores.

It is interesting this has come up. My therapist just told me her male colonic traffic had picked up during the past year due to colon cancer fears. I do not know that colonics prevent cancer, but what can it hurt?

When I was doing colonics several years back, the waiting room was often filled with young professional women in business attire. It seemed to me that many were resorting to colonics as a means of weight control.

Needless to say, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall of my therapists treatment room...Sigh!

electra

Course says. "I do not know that colonics prevent cancer, but what can it hurt." That is a profound statement of fact. Cancer is caused by many things. From genetics to environment. All we really know is that it mutates otherwise good "cells." It attacks us from within. It is not contagious, meaning ti does not come from without our bodies, and we cannot pass it on except through weak genes at birth.

I sadly, watched as my late brother-in-law, a very fine person, went to great lengths and expense to "cure" his cancer. All kinds of miracle cures, from Mexico to the Caribbean. Indeed, many emema types, and colonics. Did it hurt him to try these ideas? I believe it did, in the sense that Don, was always TIRED. Regular Doctors told him 2+ years from an incurable diagnosis until death. He lived only a bit over 12 months. His search left my sister-in-law with nothing but debt. Walt

Colonics doesn't necessarily have to be associated with 'sex' or some similar desires. I got my certification as a colon hydrotherapist many years ago, although never did open up a practice.

I found that those that have become very health conscience these days, exercising, eating healthy, taking vitamins, and the such, just believes that having regular colonics are a part of that lifestyle.

Although some enjoyment might be gain from the experience, that's not the purpose or reason that most people go for colonics. It's for the health benefits. And women, it seems, are just more into that kind of lifestyle than men.

I'm doing enemas to keep the health of our sexual well being in balance. An unsatisfied Miss is not a good thing to live with. Visa versa for males.