Colonic Hydrotherapy

My colon therapist regularly gives herself a session. she has a daughter who had a skin allergy and whose symptoms cleared up after colonics which started my nurse on a change of career to full time colon therapist

I would be hapy to try to answer any of your questions that I can

I have had several colonic treatments over the past few years. My therapist uses a closed system machine. I have always been encouraged to take one or more enemas before we started to cleanse the lower bowel. She gave me these enemas using my equipment. The speculum is larger than the douche nozzle I use. It is quite exciting for her to insert and remove it. To answer your questions specifically, the fills are done quite professionally and effectively. I fill the pressure on the abdomen similar to the full filling you get from an enema. Then the water is expelled, and the process of re-filling starts over again. I have an erection through most of the procedure and masturbate in her restroom after the process is finished. She is extremely professional. After the colonic is completed I have often felt light headed. Her response is that this is the body's way of readjusting to normal - after all of the toxins have left your body.

Seems the question of " is it an enema or is it a colonic ??" has been batted around here a lot, let me add my comment.

generally speaking:

an Enema (singular) is injected into the lower colon (2 quarts or less). Enemas can either be expeled immediately or retained for a period of time...Enemas can be used for cleasing, nutrition, delivery of medications, and regulating body electrolytes (hydration and dialysis)..

A 'high enema' is usually larger in volume (4 quarts) and flows deeper into the colon..one variation of the high enema involves using a 'colon tube',, these can vary from (1/2 meter/18 inches) to more than (2 meters/5 feet) long and are inserted well up into the colon.. with paractice the 5 foot colon tube can be inserted completely and reach to the cecum, (area where the small intestine joins) this creates a flow of fresh water deep in the colon and causes the waste to move down, its very efficient way to clean the colon.

Colonic irrigation is mearly a series of enemas over a period of time, often an hour or so... colonic systems can vary widely.. but can be grouped into two classes (open or closed).. with an open system a tube simular to a standard enema nozzle is inserted into the rectum and a continuous flow established, when the person feels they have had enough they simply expele around the nozzle which remains in place (this is simular to the popular 'shower shot')...with the closed system a speculum is inserted that connects to a fill line and a waste line together with their vales, the person can be filled then drained...this process continues repeatedly filling and draining of the colon,, good results are achived...

Does anyone remember the old colonic equipment that used the big glass open top jars, and the two colon tubes that were inserted together, one for inflow and one for outflow? I saw this equipment at a health club, when I was a little kid, maybe 70 year ago, and it was a little scary! I remember one of my mother's nursing books showing how to insert one rectal tube into the side eye of the larger outflow tube, to make insertion easier. The two tubes were inserted 4-5 inches together, then the smaller inflow tube was pulled back enough to disengage it from the other tube, and then pushed back in, perhaps 6 inches. Oh, for the good old days!

Incidentally, I remember reading about how "if the outflow tube becomes blocked, it must be removed, cleaned and the reinserted".

Willyum,

I recall the equipment you described as the Dierker (sp?) machine....big glass vessel (5-10gallons) which sat on a metal stand. My first colon therapist placed a rubber mat over the top to keep the water from splashing when the vessel was being refilled. I vaguely recall that the controls to add water, adjust water temp, were at the base of the glass vessel. I haven't thought about this in years until I saw your post.

I had visited a couple clinics before choosing the one I would try for my first colonic, and they all talk about setting up several appointments in a row, stating that the 'detox' of your system will take several appointments.

And, all had 'shelves' full of vitamins, nutrients and supplements that they will 'suggest' to go along with your treatments.

Back then a colonic was going for $45 - $50. Figuring the office space, salaries and other overhead costs, they indeed needed to generate additional income by selling such items on top of the treatments.

Not unlike a tanning salon where you really get 'ripped' by buying their tanning lotion, I'm sure what they were selling went for at least double for what you would pay in a nutrition store.

One clinic actually had a doctor on staff, where he would suggest a lot of expensive tests before your treatments. One thing I remember was to bring in a stool sample, to have it sent out to be tested and analyzed. Naturally coming back with two pages of stuff you never heard of before.

Then after that expense, the course of action, setting up numerous appointments for the colonics, and naturally suggesting a bunch of those vitamins, nutrients and supplements.

All in all, they still must have been doing well, as some of the clinics were booked two weeks in advance. I think I would have to assume that at least 50% of the people were actually going there for health reasons, and the belief that colonics were indeed healthy, (which I also believe in). Then the remainder of the clients, for other reasons...

Such things can be addicting to some people too.

The colon hidro machine with a closed circuit or tubing is prefered as does not leave much odor. But has to be properly cared and used. The danger of wrong pressure or temperature anways is there

The free floww open system does not have the pressure problem as it is regulated by the capasity of your colon

Both are fine

I did try it a few years ago and was pleased by the experience with one clinic with several young females as therapists and had a less pleasant experience with a clinic in the home of another therapist. The first place not only inserted the nozzle but gave me a nice digital rectal exam first perhaps to relax my rectum before inserting the nozzle. On my last visit, they also gave me a coffee enema after the irrigation.I went to that one three times and only stopped because I moved pretty far from their location. The in home therapist had me insert the nozzle which didn't fit right so she then had to help. She also used too much pressure so it was quite painful and caused a lot of cramps. All of the women were reasonably attractive so I liked that part of it as well.

I have seriously considered trying these, as the idea seems erotic to me. I'm worried about the potential complications if done incorrectly.

Anyone care to share more about the experience? I'm curious to learn more from someone who's actually had this done.

I was curious about them and found a place a short distance north of me. Overall receiving a colonic nothing compared to getting a series of enemas. However there was one aspect I liked. After donning a gown I was sent to a room other than the one where the colonic machine was. An asaian female in a lab coat entered the room where I was waiting. She palpitated me stomached,listened to my bowels then had me get up an lean foward over the exam table. Then I received a gloved finger from her before returning to a room where the colonic was to be administered.

On a trip to Chicago, I got off the L on the North side. I was headed to MaleHideLeather. I got turned around and walked several blocks south instead of north! I passed a colonic clinic and while turning around kicked myself. I had always wanted to have one, but time was short and I was trying to make it before the store closed. I did not get a chance to return.

I usually take normal enemas, but this morning I decided to take an enema which closely resembles a colonic. I did this using a camping shower bag which holds about 3 gallons of water. After taking some of the water and expelling in the toilet, I laid back in the tub and began to fill. I only took as much water each time until I felt full and released around the the enema pipe. Like a colonic, you can take more water as your colon is cleansed. You don't usually have to try and hold the water, just let it fill and release naturally as the pressure builds.

Once you get over the initial embarrassment of going to colon therapist and setting up appointment (75 dollars a session) it's actually easy and very relaxing. They, by law, are not allowed to insert you, just strip off your clothes, hop up on the body contoured table, spread cheeks, and ease your hinney down unto the protruding hose. Then ring the buzzer she'll be in and start the water flow.

Gentle music is playing in background. Just relax and do as she says. After she leaves don't try to masturbate they do come in to check on you.

I have just scheduled a colonic for next week with a holistic clinic in Ottawa. I have read many positive things about their benefits. I'll post again here when it's been completed.

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hose4fun...A Do-It-Yourself colon therapy clinic? What country are you from and how much fun is that? You might as well just stay home, turn on some relaxing music and dream about the 75 bucks you saved while giving yourself a series of enemas.

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He is describing an open system colonic. They have them in many places. I've had them in a couple of places the US. The open system does not require any therapist to be with you. Colonic clinics like that because they can run more clients at one time without needing direct attention of a therapist. This means more money with fewer employes. With the open system the water flows continuously and you just expel around the thin nozzle at will. One of the things I don't like about that is when I expell, the nozzle sometimes comes out, requiring re-insertion.

I don't like them as much as a closed system where the therapist stays with you and opens and closes the valves that lets water in and out of your colon, even though you can't masturbate with a therapist during a closed system colonic. The sensation of the water flowing and being sort of "sucked out" with a closed system is much more relaxing to me.

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once you get over the initial embarressment of going to colon theripist and seting up appointment (75 dollars a session)

its actually easy and very relaxing

their by law are not allowed to insert you

just strip off your clothes hop up on the body contured table

spread cheeks and ease your hinnie down unto the protruding hose

then ring the buzzer she,,ll in and start the water flow

gentle music is playing in background

just relax and do as she says after she leaves don,t try to masturbate they do come in to check on you

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Yes, that's true, but when I have been there, and if they have any class, they always knock before entering. Since I don't have anything to hide (except wet, slippery fingers) it's easy for me to do that! I guess you guys are at a bit of a disadvantage here since it's harder to hide your waving flag, although, lying on your back with a good, hard stiffie, I'd think it would pretty much lie against your abdomen. 😁 😁 😁

Switchablesusie...I've had colonics via both systems, but even with the open system, the therapist inserted the nozzle before she left the room. Hose4fun mentioned that in his country the therapists are not allowed to insert the nozzle. If that part is left out and she leaves the room, what is the point of having a therapist there at all? Basically, I'm just paying for the use of the equipment as in a Do-It-Yourself Car Wash.

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Switchablesusie...I've had colonics via both systems, but even with the open system, the therapist inserted the nozzle before she left the room. Hose4fun mentioned that in his country the therapists are not allowed to insert the nozzle. If that part is left out and she leaves the room, what is the point of having a therapist there at all? Basically, I'm just paying for the use of the equipment as in a Do-It-Yourself Car Wash.

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EXACTLY!

That's why the "therapists" like the open system. They don't have to be in the room, and one person can run a few clients at a time.

In many states, the client has to insert the nozzle/speculum him/herself.

Switchablesusie is very correct about the lack of fulltime attention that operators of the open system usually provide. Like her, at two different therapy places, the nozzle came out of either the machine or my anus and re-insertion was a little embarassing, given the on-back position.

Yes sound very typical, I have done a number of colonic treatment at about as many different places, and alway been the same. Always hope for something a bit more erotic, or fetish like, but always very clinical.

There are some great colonics videos on YouTube - take a look - some are fairly detailed.

I want to try it, just haven't worked up the courage. I'm prone to dehydrate or have my electrolytes go whacko, so I'm not sure about 45 mins or so of water.

Last year my doctor recommended a colonoscopy for me, based on my age. I knew from talking with other folks that the laxative prep was easily the most disagreeable part of the whole process.

Having had an interest in enemas for just about forever,I searched for information on the Web to see if the colonscopy prep could be accomplished this way. After a bunch of research I came up with some clinical research information that supported this idea. Colonics rather than simple enemas were cited as the method of choice. When I had my first appointment with my proctologist he OK'd this method.

I was able to locate a colon hydrotherapist not too far away. We talked over what I had in mind and she was willing to support me in this effort although she hadn't had anyone come to her for this purpose before. She was very professional (having been a registered nurse) and extremely health awareness conscious throughout the process. Her recommendation was for a series of three colonics within a short period of time (2 weeks) to condition my colon for maximum health.

The final colonic was on the morning of the day of my colonoscopy. I had asked her if I should consider giving myself an enema at home before the colonic to sort of clear the path for her procedure. She said it could only help. I self administered two 2 quart enemas that morning. Perhaps because my colon had been conditioned a bit by the previous two colonics, I was able to retain the enemas for about 15 minutes before expelling them, definitly a personal best!

Anyway, the long and short of it was that I was clean as a whistle according to my proctologist. Better yet,from his exam, no problems either.

Beforehand I was wondering if I would find going through the colonics to have an erotic aspect, similar to my interest in enemas. In truth, not so much. Everything was very professional as I said and I think the overriding focus on the medical/heath aspect of the process kind of put the erotic aspect far in the background. Entirely? Nope!

mcclane

Tim....

In the "old days" of hospital enemas the catheter was usually 34 Fr or sometimes 36 Fr. and prox 20 inches in length. I have both in my home inventory and prefer the 34 Fr. since it has both a side opening and a front opening.

the boxcar

I’ve had 4 colonics in my years and an untold number of enemas. Colonic practitioners will tell you that you’ll never get as cleansed with an enema series as you will with colonics. I think that’s sales talk and I took a series of enemas till clear the night before an appointment and the machine seemed to show that there was vey little left behind.

What’s your experience?

I have had about 50 colonics over the last 15 or so years, and I like them because of the pampering. BUT, you can get yourself just as clean with enemas.

No question, it's a sales talk. What you had "left behind" after your series of enemas when you went for your colonic the next day, wasn't anything left behind, it was new material flowing down.

I believe that things like that exist, but i don't know how common they are. I suspect the one shown is a "rare" find.

I know many kids back in the 50s got introduced to enemas in the first place when they got a case of pin worms and the medical solution at the time a series of daily enemas. The link below has a great site that will have you using a mirror and flashlight to see if you've got them tonight. Thanks for the reply.

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What is that long,gross stringy thing you see in pics that are supposed to be removed when you take a colonic or colon cleansers?I have a VERY hard time believing that a foot or longer substance is coming out of you in that form!I suspect another form of "sales pitch" to get you to try it.Has anyone actually seen this happen in real life?lol :😃

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That is a very good question (I'll answer it) and the first intelligent response to that very famous series of photos the colon cleanser people always show.

The answer is quite simple. The colon cleanser stuff contains psyllium and other things, and after you do the cleansings they have you do and then take lots of psyllium and water, what you see is actually nothing more than an impression or cast of the inside of your colon which is a mixture of the stuff they have you drink and mix with water, and the chyme flowing down your intestinal tract. It IS NOT mucoid plaque as they would like you to believe. If there was ever such a thing, gastroenterologists would be telling people about it. Anybody ever have a gastroenterologist tell them they had it? HA!!!! In fact there is no such thing as mucoid plaque. Do a GOOGLE SCHOLAR SEARCH of scientific articles, and you'll see, it doesn't even appear in anything remotely close to intestinal physiology.

Those colonic therapists are full of what they clean out of people. On the other hand, if you do an ordinary Google search, you'll see lots of ads by colon cleansers.

Also see this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucoid_plaque

My husband and I have done this for the fun of getting the stringy impressions that are passed out in conjunction with an enema. Those big stringy things are retrieved by people expelling their enema into a collander.

Thank you Switch. Someone knowledgeable in the area of colon cleansing like yourself should have said this a long time ago.

I have now had three colonoscopies in my life, all without drugs and was able to watch the scope on the video screen as it passed all the way from my rectum to the cecum. Not once did I ever see anything resembling those pictures that colon therapists like to decorate their treatment rooms with.

regards,

Electra

They can be equally effective. A properly given 2 quart enema, repeated three or so times with proper positioning and retention, is as effective as a properly administered professional colonic.

I have had colonics that, frankly, did not clean out my colon. On a couple of occasions, the therapist did not put enough water in before draining it. On other occasions, I was so constipated that the big hard pieces of stool were too large to exit through the outflow tube of a closed system. Colonic practitioners tout their systems as being vastly superior to an enema, but I have not found that to be true, especially if the enema giver knows what he or she is doing.

Well I have gone through a series of colonics, and personally I feel that enemas are better, such as a series of three in three different positons will clean you out better, and if by chance there is a lot of gas buildup the enemas will get it out faster and better than the colonic, which cant, i vote for enemas

I have been doing enemas for over 47 years. I have been doing colonics for 15 years. I have been doing double balloon enemas for 15 years.

I can administer multiple enemas, plain or with castille soap, and still get fecal matter out if I do a deep colonic with the whole length of the tube in me. It is also more soothiing.