Do you feel "more naked" as a circumcised man?

@CJ1999 said

I know it’s just semantics, but I’d say that example is more exposed or embarrassed, but not more ‘naked.’

Yes, that would have been the more accurate question. To ask if a person feels more exposed is what this thread is really asking.

A person is either naked or they are not, and it is not a matter of degree. But there are degrees of exposure.

Have to agree about males with foreskins and the hygiene issue, too.

Foreskin and hygiene are unrelated. You can be circumcised and have poor hygiene and you can be uncircumcised and have good hygiene.

As an adult male from the US I think I can provide some insight here because I had to get circumcised later in life due to a medical condition. It was unusual in the part of the country I grew up not to be circumcised and at physical exams here doctors always tried to retract my foreskin regardless of male or female I felt exposed either way but at 11 or 12 began to get stimulated if a doctor retracted my foreskin more then once so I began to dread physical exams for that reason and that some would want to refer me for circumcision usually for “health or hygiene” purposes which always led to embarrassing discussions often with a parent. I feel fine with genital exams now and became ok with them earlier by offering to retract it myself once exposed as an adult which most doctors were ok with. I have to say in general that genital exams are easier being circumcised and the level of exposure is ok.

Unsure if it compares, but as a kid and early teen I had to endure a number of foreskin retractions and it definitely was extra embarrassing compared to just being naked.

If a person were standing at attention naked and then told to bend over over, legs spread wide so that the buttcheeks were open, please don't try and convince me that that wouldn't be more embarrassing than the at attention posture.

In both the person is naked, but in one posture subjectively more so than in the other.

That's true, AG, but we're not discussing postures; we're discussing whether a person feels more naked with or without foreskin, at least that's my interpretation.

As such, I agree with you that bent over naked would be exposing more than standing erect because you're also exposing your anus in addition to the other private parts.

IMO, an exposed glans is more sexually arousing than a covered glans. And of course that goes with feeling being more naked and for many embarrassing.

So in proper society - i.e. just walking around naked minding your own business - a covered glans is more polite in that it’s less naked and sexually arousing than with the glans exposed.

If I am naked I don't think having a foreskin would make any difference. I think either way you are comfortable with being naked or you aren't

For what it's worth ... I was not circumcised until in my 50s (another story, but it was my choice). Before that, I never felt fully naked if my foreskin was forward (covering the glans), and if I knew I would be seen naked anywhere then I made sure it was pulled back - eventually that's how it was all the time. Since my circumcision yes, I feel permanently naked. It's a topic that comes up often when chatting online with other guys circumcised as adults, and they all agree. So it may be to do with when you were circumcised.

I don't believe it's to do with the degree of nakedness. However, the act of a patient slowly retracting their foreskin under close observation by the doctor, or of the doctor taking matters into his own hands can both have an erotic charge. Fear of erection under observation may heighten that.

If I am naked I don't think having a foreskin would make any difference. I think either way you are comfortable with being naked or you aren't

I never felt “more or less naked” simply based on the position of my foreskin. My personal view is a penis is a penis either your comfortable or not being naked in front of others. In the past, I’ve had both male and female doctors for physicals all included an genital exam. Actually maybe twice I felt uncomfortable because I’d developed an erection during the exam.

I doubt that I do feel more naked being circumcised - but I don't have a reference point. As far as I can remember I've been circumcized, so I don't remember what it feels like to not be circumcised.

BTW- I think this is a dumb thread!! You're naked or you're not naked.

BTW- I think this is a dumb thread!! You're naked or you're not naked.

If only life were so simple, with everything being black or white. Too bad it's not, since life has lots of grey areas thrown in to make things complicated - and interesting.

If only life were so simple, with everything being black or white. Too bad it's not, ....

@agracier

Agree there are lots of grey areas in life that are not black and white. Being naked isn't one of them. Either you have clothes on - or you don't. Sunglasses and a hat aren't clothes! 😃

I doubt that I do feel more naked being circumcised - but I don't have a reference point. As far as I can remember I've been circumcized, so I don't remember what it feels like to not be circumcised.

BTW- I think this is a dumb thread!! You're naked or you're not naked.

YES

@agracier

Agree there are lots of grey areas in life that are not black and white. Being naked isn't one of them. Either you have clothes on - or you don't. Sunglasses and a hat aren't clothes! 😃

AND YES.

BTW- I think this is a dumb thread!! You're naked or you're not naked.

Like I said once already, the opening post would have been better worded if it had asked about feeling more exposed, not about degrees of nudity. That is a perfectly reasonable question when not seen through an American filter. It will often be difficult for men who have always been circumcised to appreciate it, however.

Think of how it would be if your car had its bonnet ('hood') removed at some point and was never replaced. Would the engine be more exposed than before? Obviously "Yes" is the answer. It's not a perfect analogy, but not too far away.

Like I said once already, the opening post would have been better worded if it had asked about feeling more exposed, not about degrees of nudity. That is a perfectly reasonable question when not seen through an American filter.

I don't see the difference between being more exposed or more naked just because someone is uncircumcised. Once the flag is flying - it's out there - fully exposed, foreskin or not.

No. My position on this is that what you don't know you (briefly) had you don't miss! My parents had me circumcised at birth, and so I never knew until I was grown up that I wasn't just 'naturally' me! Sure, I had noticed that some boys had 'different' penises to mine, but I just thought that mine was 'better' than theirs! (Was I wrong?!)

- Ken

I don't see the difference between being more exposed or more naked just because someone is uncircumcised. Once the flag is flying - it's out there - fully exposed, foreskin or not.

No, it isn't all out there, not when the glans isn't exposed. That's what I'm saying about seeing this through the American filter and not fully appreciating why the difference matters.

@kenneth177 said

My position on this is that what you don't know you (briefly) had you don't miss! My parents had me circumcised at birth, and so I never knew until I was grown up that I wasn't just 'naturally' me!

Exactly. Someone circumcised at birth, especially when not informed that it wasn't the natural condition, will be much less likely to appreciate the difference.

No, it isn't all out there, not when the glans isn't exposed. That's what I'm saying about seeing this through the American filter and not fully appreciating ...

Agree to disagree! 😃

Agree to disagree! 😃

Yes, absolutely. Two irreconcilable viewpoints.

I don't feel "more naked" no. The thoughts you have seem relatable to an inner instinct to preserve your privates.

I have no reference point outside of being circumcised. I've been circumcised for as long as I can remember.

I have no reference point outside of being circumcised. I've been circumcised for as long as I can remember.

This goes for me as well. I didn't even know I was clipped until I got to High School and saw some of the other persuasion. I did see younger brothers that came home from the hospital with a little ring on their penis which might have had something to do with bandaging but really had no concept of what exactly went on. Makes me cringe just thinking about it

Yeah, I wish I had a choice in the matter.

But tbh, I've never had a problem with my dick. Always been happy with it, and the sensations of pleasure.

Funny I always referred to a circumsised penis as sporting a helmet ! ?

I think the movie "Groove Tube" show a penis and testicles upside down wearing a hat and sunglasses. Penis was the elongated nose and the balls were the caricatures droopy cheeks.

Often it seems as if there is a certain degree of cultural arrogance that goes along irrevocably with being circumcised. Those who are cut (at birth), have no idea at all about the nuances and shades of grey that exist when you are not cut. There are different shades of feeling, both physical as well as emotional with an exposed or covered glans. These are not the same thing.

The way that some so readily dismiss the differences, is like those who are born color blind dismissing the very possibility of there being something else than black and white.

Often it seems as if there is a certain degree of cultural arrogance that goes along irrevocably with being circumcised.

@agracier I respect your position/conviction that you are more exposed when your foreskin is retracted and your glans is exposed. But please, don't imply that I am arrogant (or "culturally arrogant") for not sharing that position/conviction. I think you contribute a lot to Zity and I enjoy reading your posts. Just have a different opinion than you on this particular thread.

Peace

I have a friend I have talked to many times about our physical exam experiences from preteen years up through present experiences. We have, among other factors involved in the exam process, the feeing of embarrassment with genital exposure. He is uncircumcised and has always found this to be the primary reason he dreads having his penis exposed during physicals. The way he has always expressed this to me is that he feels he gets exposed once when his underpants go down and the doctor gets a look at his penis and feels he is naked a second time when the foreskin is retracted and the glans is exposed. I have always found his description of feeling naked twice to be exciting and it made me realize how circumcised guys are accustomed to having others see their glans, but, not the case with uncircumcised men.

It’s an interesting question and I suppose has a lot to do with the preponderance of circumcision or not where you are, in the UK generally amongst the indigenous white population circumcision is not common, and shortly after I was circumcised age 6 I found myself very much in the minority, and I felt very different being more on show, and for a while that made me rather shy and not wanting others to see, however as time progressed I grew to love that i’d Been cut, and proud to be circumcised, yes I do feel more naked and I love it

No.

And I grew up uncut, but in a predominantly cut culture. So I think I’m a vote for the idea that it depends more on your culture than you. I grew up around guys whose glans was visible when their penis was. So having a glans visible was not “more naked” or embarrassing.

If anything I was probably more shy being seen with a foreskin.