Are there NO dykes in here?

Really? This list is empty? How sad.

Any other lesbians out there?

There are some relatively new sub-forums and they may not have had postings yet.

Likewise, there are MANY gay guys here and the Gay section has few posts also.

You should fill out your profile. If you are interested in meeting people, having the profile filled out lets people know what your interests are.

Hello, Switchablesusie. I hadn't seen this until just now but I have already added considerable detail to my profile over the bare bones that were there when I first posted.

Nice to meet another NYer.

I don't have a number in mind as a percentage of members, but there are a good number of lesbians and bisexuals on Zity.Biz although they aren't as numerous as gay guys. The ratio of men to women here I believe is about 4 to 1. Most to all men are much more perverted than most women. 😁 😁 😁

If you go through the forum and post, you will find women and other trans people who have similar interests.

On another note, I noticed that you referred to yourself as a dyke, which actually surprised me at first, so I did some research on the term and discovered that many lesbians want to "reclaim" the term and use it in a positive manner in a similar way that gays are using the term faggot in a more positive manner, at least among themselves. Being heteroflexible or considered bisexual by some, I am out of the lesbian loop and have not been up on the latest terminology.

On another note, I noticed that you referred to yourself as a dyke, which actually surprised me at first, so I did some research on the term and discovered that many lesbians want to "reclaim" the term and use it in a positive manner in a similar way that gays are using the term faggot in a more positive manner, at least among themselves.

Aha ... see how language is constantly evolving, with words changing meanings and connotations faster than we can sometimes keep track?

Sorry, but I just couldn't help but point it out. 😃

Aha ... see how language is constantly evolving, with words changing meanings and connotations faster than we can sometimes keep track?

Sorry, but I just couldn't help but point it out. 😃

Yeah, I'm not surprised you did considering what you and I have discussed in the past about language! 😁

Still the definition of dyke is the same. That has not evolved, only the connotation, which isn't important to me because connotation has to do with political correctness which everybody knows I don't give a damn about. It's the same with "cunt" which has been discussed in other threads. It's just a word and if someone wants it to have a bad connotation, I don't care because the definition is unchanged. It's still just a vagina.

What really bothers me about language is when uneducated lowlifes CHANGE the definition. For instance "peruse" means to read CAREFULLY. When did the idiots who weren't educated enough to know the definition decide that it should mean to breeze through quickly?

So there! 😁 😁 😁

I have been deeply involved in the lesbian community for many years now. Most if not all of my friends are quite comfortable with the word dyke. In fact there's been an official "Dyke March" in NYC every year for more than 20 years, held the day before the Pride March from 42nd Street to Washington Square. You should go some time. It's a lot of fun.

What really bothers me about language is when uneducated lowlifes CHANGE the definition. For instance "peruse" means to read CAREFULLY. When did the idiots who weren't educated enough to know the definition decide that it should mean to breeze through quickly?

When people make linguistic mistakes that become accepted as normal usage over time, this does not happen because of a conscious decision. No one and certainly no one person suddenly decides to change the meaning of a word. These things simply happen for any number of reasons, ignorance, lack of education, misreadings or confusion all being possible reasons.

But that still doesn't invalidate the new meaning. Language is the unspoken acceptance of rules and meanings of ways to communicate, however it comes about. And with English having no institution watching over and guarding the purity and inertia of the language, whatever a significantly large group of people (begin to) use, is correct. English is the ultimate democratic language. It works by consensus, however the consensus comes about.

All of which makes English an attractive, colorful and very creative language. Even for non-native speakers.

When people make linguistic mistakes that become accepted as normal usage over time, this does not happen because of a conscious decision. No one and certainly no one person suddenly decides to change the meaning of a word. These things simply happen for any number of reasons, ignorance, lack of education, misreadings or confusion all being possible reasons. . . .

The dummies and ignoramuses should not be modifying the language.

Sorry but I have nothing more to say about this.

Agracier & Susie, feel free to chime in and correct me if you think I'm wrong! (Like I could stop you if I wanted to, LOL!) First, let me say that I am 100% in your camp about the decline of proper English in our society. Of course, these days the public schools seem to take the attitude that if you can figure out what is being written, or spelled, it's OK. (Why did Samuel Johnson and Noah Webster even bother?) Anyway, to my point, I have always been under the impression that "lesbian" is the correct, gentile word for a woman who prefers the sexual company of other women, and that "dyke" is a derogatory term for the same. However, I have usually only heard "dyke" in reference to a lesbian who is very masculine in appearance.

the decline of proper English in our society. Of course, these days the public schools seem to take the attitude that if you can figure out what is being written, or spelled, it's OK.

"dyke" is a derogatory term for the same. However, I have usually only heard "dyke" in reference to a lesbian who is very masculine in appearance.

Almost every generation bemoans and criticizes the younger generation following them. They can do nothing right and complaints about the decline of language are as old as written history. If so many younger people have differing language usage and ways of talking, it may have a lot to do of what kind of skills will be expected of them when they enter the job market. You don't need to be able to understand Shakespearean English to flip a hamburger or stock supermarket shelves. And come to think of it, neither for lawyers, accountants or IT techs and so on. They will each learn or pick up their specialty specific jargon as they need it. Not all employers need wage slaves who can read and declaim the King's English. Maybe a bit like under slavery - when slaves were forbidden to learn reading and writing and teaching it was punishable - they prefer many types of employees who aren't all that literate or articulate. And therefore, schools will reflect the needs of employers, not specifically the dictates of good culture.

As to 'dyke', I too thought it sounds a bit derogatory. It's a word my father ( used to be in the merchant marine) usually used when telling his tall tales of men, ships and pussy in foreign ports. Maybe he didn't know many other terms. I certainly never heard him use 'lesbian'. That would have been poetic or fancy.

Perhaps 'dyke' is becoming a proper word to use among lesbians only, a sort of insider term that is allowed amongst group members, but not thought polite to be used by outsiders.

Wow that's rude but I'm sure there are plenty of lesbians on here

Wow that's rude but I'm sure there are plenty of lesbians on here

I do not think it is rude @Patientamy87 because @agracier and the others are just talking about how a word is used, you know, the meaning of the language, and that is ok.

Here are a few more obscure and learned sounding terms:

- gynecozygous - lesbian

- feminosexual - lesbian

- viraginity - women with male characteristics

- andromimetic - a woman imitating a man ; looking, dressing and acting like a man

- gynecomimetic - idem

- gynaecotrope - lesbian

Except for feminosexual, which has a slightly slippery poli-correct feel to it, I don't see how any would ever crop in everyday conversation though ... ha ha.

I find it interesting that the lesbian community is "reclaiming" the use of the term dyke. I see this also happening in the black community with the word "nigger", or perhaps the more stylized word "nigga". (I'm sure the rise of the rap culture had a lot to do with that.) I doubt that "dyke" ever had the shock effect of "nigger". If indeed gay men are now using the term faggot, that is the same phenomenon. I suppose it is a type of empowerment, when a group starts using the previously derogatory term among themselves.

I have been deeply involved in the lesbian community for many years now. Most if not all of my friends are quite comfortable with the word dyke. In fact there's been an official "Dyke March" in NYC every year for more than 20 years, held the day before the Pride March from 42nd Street to Washington Square. You should go some time. It's a lot of fun.

@Alison9, I've never seen that event, but I have enjoyed the "Dykes on Bikes" group in San Francisco, in that city's Gay Pride Parade.

A bit off-topic, and I apologize, but I must say how much I enjoy the verbal jousting on the use of language by @agracier and @Switchablesusie. I must agree with agracier that the bastardization of English will continue unabated. This will not necessarily be carried out by "dummies and ignoramuses", but by a generation that thrives on social media, with its own language, and really doesn't care about proper usage. Correct spelling and grammar are becoming almost quaint, and you can rail against it, @Switchablesusie , but I'm afraid you won't stop it.

. . . . A bit off-topic, and I apologize, but I must say how much I enjoy the verbal jousting on the use of language by @agracier and @Switchablesusie. I must agree with agracier that the bastardization of English will continue unabated. This will not necessarily be carried out by "dummies and ignoramuses", but by a generation that thrives on social media, with its own language, and really doesn't care about proper usage. Correct spelling and grammar are becoming almost quaint, and you can rail against it, @Switchablesusie , but I'm afraid you won't stop it.

I don't expect to stop it either because such a great portion of the population are idiots who are the lowest common denominator with a horrible education and lousy parents who won't stand up for what is right at home or reinforce what is supposedly learned in school.

YOU CAN CALL ME A SNOB, BUT MOST PEOPLE ARE SHITTY REPRESENTATIVES OF OUR SPECIES.

Sorry Dykes and lesbians for the continuing hijack of your thread.

I don't expect to stop it either because such a great portion of the population are idiots who are the lowest common denominator with a horrible education and lousy parents who won't stand up for what is right at home or reinforce what is supposedly learned in school.

YOU CAN CALL ME A SNOB, BUT MOST PEOPLE ARE SHITTY REPRESENTATIVES OF OUR SPECIES.

I will go along with your rant ...........in part. Yes, I can find fault with the educational system, certainly in America and Canada. Yes, I can find fault with parenting styles in the last 20 or 30 years. I'm sad to say that I left a lot of parenting to my ex-wife, so I hesitate to be too critical. my son and daughter turned out fine, so take a bow ex-wife. 😄

I will take exception to your last comment. I don't think that "MOST PEOPLE ARE SHITTY REPRESENTATIVES.............." I know too many people from all walks of life, and of all ages, to tar the majority with the same brush. "Some people" I would accept.

@agracier talked about the lack of any group to monitor and correct the more egregious offences against the English language. I have lived in Quebec, and they do, in fact, have a "Language Police". There is a government agency that goes around checking commercial signs to make sure the French language portion is larger than the English words. Their mission is to protect the French language from the ever-increasing encroachment of English.

I have lived in Quebec, and they do, in fact, have a "Language Police". There is a government agency that goes around checking commercial signs to make sure the French language portion is larger than the English words. Their mission is to protect the French language from the ever-increasing encroachment of English.

Doesn't work very well, though, does it?

You should see the encroachment of English in Belgium. It's not even an official language and yet is used on trains, museums, metros, as police safety warning stickers, not to mention countless stores and public advertisements and everyday conversation, including on national television.

Just like a cultured, educated gentleman from the 19th century had to pepper his talk with French words and phrases (hence so many diplomatic, political and military terms from French), so too, modern day people pepper it with English, sometimes really shaking on heavy doses ... 😃

To add the hijacked topic of the thread, here's an article about the thought police and language restrictions, from the perspective of a transgender female artist.

http://www.out.com/news-opinion/2014/04/18/calpernia-adams-tranny-shemale-lgbt-history

To add the hijacked topic of the thread, here's an article about the thought police and language restrictions, from the perspective of a transgender female artist.

http://www.out.com/news-opinion/2014/04/18/calpernia-adams-tranny-shemale-lgbt-history

Very good article. Thanks for the link.

This discussion reminded me of the recent De Niro comedy, where he hangs out with black guys, teaching him the right context to use the "n" word. I don't want to equate this community with some kind of elite, but in my opinion a true homofob (using those words as insults) would never find a site like Zity in the first place, as he/she doesn't have the mental capacity for kinks.

I am a lesbian. It's hard to meet lesbians with our kinks. haha.

This is the first time in my entire life I've heard lesbians referred to as dykes.

I thought you were talking about dikes, like the cutters, lol, your all old.

That in combo with possibly my cluelessness.

Lesbians are lesbians, lets leave it at that.

This is the first time in my entire life I've heard lesbians referred to as dykes.

I thought you were talking about dikes, like the cutters, lol, your all old.

That in combo with possibly my cluelessness.

Lesbians are lesbians, lets leave it at that.

I don't know if it is naivete, your age, inexperience or what, but the WORLD knows another name for lesbians, often used in a derogatory manner is dyke.

There is a large contingent of lesbians who are trying to "take back" the term dyke and make it respectable, in the same manner as some women are trying to make CUNT an acceptable word for vagina.

I don't know if it is naivete, your age, inexperience or what, but the WORLD knows another name for lesbians, often used in a derogatory manner is dyke.

The English-speaking world you mean ... it was also used by people we'd call of working class or low class origin, people who were not especially skilled in the use of synonyms ... and it's also a bit old-fashioned, something you'd have heard during WWII or the Great Depression, maybe up to 50s-60s.

There is a large contingent of lesbians who are trying to "take back" the term dyke and make it respectable, in the same manner as some women are trying to make CUNT an acceptable word for vagina.

Good for them. If you can succeed in making a 'dirty' word respectable, you are dis-empowering those who use that word to denigrate. Call it word-jujitsu or whatever. You take the force of an insult and transform it into a power-play on your part. Confusion to your enemies.

And I'd add - see, this is yet another way in which language evolves and changes and transforms itself because of how social groups interact and play off against each other. Not because of some group of learned people dictating how language should be.

Never mind the "English" language, I'm still reeling over the comment that the men on this site are more perverted than the woman......

Oh, never mind :-)

To start with I know for a fact that I am very kinky, not to mention perverted. Yes there may be some on here male or female that are more kinky or perverted than I, but not too many, lol. At least in my opinion.

Secondly, I am very surprised that people are not bitching about this thread and the use of the word dyke. It's impressive actually. But I guess people often come full circle when it comes to things such as that and other derogatory terms. I used to be very offended when someone called me fat but these days I call myself a 'fat kid', lol. So I guess the same can be applied to the word dyke and other such words.

Mashie

I used to be very offended when someone called me fat but these days I call myself a 'fat kid', lol. So I guess the same can be applied to the word dyke and other such words.

A good way to take away the offensive properties of a word is to co-opt the word itself and wear it like a badge of pride. At first it probably starts as a small, self-depreciating joke, but when the novelty or shock value of the joke wears off you can 'own' the term and use it on your own terms ...

I love the word dyke and use it to refer to myself. It's like the word "queer"-- reclaiming it is everything. Also... there's very little that's more hot than someone growing "you're a filthy little dyke" in your ear.

Someone mentioned that men are kinkier than women and I object to that. I don't have empirical evidence to back this up, but I'd assert that women are less socialized to express their kinks than men are, and that's why there is such a gap. That being said, having played in many an all-women play space, I can attest that women (esp. dykes) are filthy, kinky, and deliciously mean to each other.

I am a lesbian. It's hard to meet lesbians with our kinks. haha.

I'm a lesbian (most of the time) and the other lesbians I meet are as kinky as me. Men are really uptight sexually.