Balloon Retention Nozzles.

Frank01, jimmy and others,

The Vetmed.co stated price is $100 USD with free ground shipping, same as when I bought mine last year. The delivery time is good and the quality is excellent. I'm sure other places are fine, too, but I bought mine here because it was the lowest price I found in the US. No complaints, and it really works once you're used to how it fits with your body and number of inflations used. The only caveat I can think of is that I don't remember if VetMed sends it with inflator bulbs or not. I may have used my old ones from a prior catheter from the Beth Tyler site. You can email them and ask. As I recall, they responded quickly.

Moliere, I've not measured the balloon size on this DBC when inflated, but if you want I could do it and post the results. I've seen the balloons inflated, and just by visual comparison with some of my plugs, it sure looked a lot bigger than 1.5" diameter. Feels much bigger inside me as well.

As far as cleaning, mine is latex with an unknown (to me) rubber type for the black inflator bulbs. I just use antibacterial hand soap and hot water to keep it clean, occasionally using a Q-tip in the three end holes if I think it needs it. I keep the inflators bulbs and metal screw valves dry. I wash it almost immediately after use, including a full bag of hot water run through it, and haven't had any problems or residual odors. Does anyone know of a cleaning/sterilization fluid that would not harm the latex?

Eric

I just sent Vetmed.co an email asking about inflator bulbs. I'll post what they reply.

Eric

Eric.

Might try eBay...under inflators bulbs...usually inexpensive..also lab catagory

Hi, Charlie,

Thanks for the suggestion. I hadn't thought of them.

Eric

@moliere Definitely reach out to medtech3000.de if you like anything on their site.

Both times I've had things shipped from there, I was able to get non-DHL shipping for ~15 euros, I just asked when I was conversing with them via e-mail.

It'll become a USPS package on our side, registered mail. Takes longer, but well worth the wait, the quality is top notch and they had more options than VetMed did when I ordered my nozzles.

Whoever you buy from, the nozzle won't disappoint if you get one of the Rusch/Teleflex double balloon items, they certainly know how to make a good nozzle!

It seems as though most of the double balloon nozzles now available have been made with no knowledge of anatomy. The space between the inner and outer balloon on most of them is far too wide for a snug fit. Can anyone tell me where I can get a well made product?

Yeah, the silicone double balloon catheters are overpriced and they perish very easily, especially when their inflation limits are regularly tested by over-zealous enemates. Because they were made explicitly for the enema sex industry, I don't think too much research and design effort was put in, as evident from the too big space between the inner and outer balloons which make a mockery of any effort to provide a tight seal.

I saw the real-deal, proper medical double balloon made of latex (if you're allergic, too bad) on the German website http://www.medtech3000.de , the whole thing for 69.90 Euro (about US$ 74) which is not too expensive - but I guess courier delivery charges from Germany may dampen the joy somewhat. In any event, this site has probably the most comprehensive collection of medfet instruments (all the real stuff used in the medical field) available in one place. Quite awesome.

The specific web page for the latex double balloon is https://www.medtech3000.de/Klistier/Einlauf/Heilfasten/Doppelballon-Darmrohr-mit-2-Geblaese-Darmkatheter-Ballondarmrohr::409.html . Unfortunately you have to use the translate function of your web browser to view the site in English, as there is no English language option available on the site itself. And we know how screwed up some of these automatic translations can sometimes be. Hope this helps.

I looked at that and shipping via DHL was going to add another 50% to the cost.

I tried contacting medtech3000 some weeks ago to ask if there were any other shipping options and never got a reply.

@radio - Read over the entire thread, medtech3000.de product shouldn't increase landed delivery by 50%. .30% or thereabouts if DHL are involved. Whereas contact email (in English text) can specify registered first class airmail reducing outlay to around 20% all up

Forum post over page identifies their Article Stock Numbers for every item listed -- English / German . .so long as the alpha / numeric code is correct at the time of ordering

How many pumps do people here who have the OHN double balloon use? Tried mine today with 5 or 6, and it definitely felt full and didn't come out but there was some leaking if I didn't clench during the cramps. I don't want to overinflate and shorten the nozzle's life, but I also want it to work as well as possible.

Note - very different feeling than the rectal catheter/colon tube put in 6 or so inches. I liked not having to hold it in. The pressure was unusual - I felt like I had to fart, and you can definitely feel it press against the prostate.

I was wondering about quality because it looks a lot like the cheapo ones, but it seems that maybe OHN pays a bit more to have the manufacturer do quality control. They also come with metal and rubber inflators rather than plastic and rubber inflators. It looks like there are some potentially weak points that could benefit from a redesign, but it's not too bad.

I just noticed that medtech3000 also sells 2 double balloon nozzles with one set of inflators for €99.90. If someone already had a set of inflators, this would be a bargain if 2 persons each wanted one.

https://www.medtech3000.de/Klistier/Einlauf/Heilfasten/Doppelballon-Darmrohr-Set-2-Stueck-2-Geblaese-Darmkatheter::484.html

I am selling a latex double balloon catheter if interested.

Listing in the Buy Sell Swap section of Zity.

I have taken a couple of SSEs with the Optimal Health silicone double balloon nozzle this week, and here's my impressions. Keep in mind that this is the first inflatable nozzle I have used and I have only used it on about two days.

The interior balloon is too big. The feelings can be intense and sometimes a bit uncomfortable even before it has been inflated enough to seal. A smaller interior balloon would also probably be a general plus. Sometimes it isn't uncomfortable. I have had times when the pressure has been kind of nice and has led me to look at my wife's hands in a new way. Not sure how easily they'd go in, but once they were in ...

A smoothly rounded balloon surface where it seats against the inside of the anal canal would be better for sealing then the flutes that they have. It might also increase the lifetime, as the current design puts more stress on the "distal" (considered from the body rather than the nozzle) side of the balloon where there is the more sharp bend. Flutes on the tip side and a rounded edge similar to the yellow/orange Rusch catheter on the anal canal side might be better.

Moving the balloons about 1-1.5 cm (about 1/2 inch) closer together would help sealing quite a bit.

I have inflated it in total about 8 times (most times were outside of my body) and there hasn't been any air leakage.

. . . . Moving the balloons about 1-1.5 cm (about 1/2 inch) closer together would help sealing quite a bit. . . .

I have complained to Klystra and Optimal Health about that problem since they started making them about ten years ago.

You would think Christina Amelong would want to fix that and would recognize the anatomic problem with the space between the bulbs but they obviously don't care or they would fix it.

I have complained to Klystra and Optimal Health about that problem since they started making them about ten years ago.

You would think Christina Amelong would want to fix that and would recognize the anatomic problem with the space between the bulbs but they obviously don't care or they would fix it.

Looking at the construction it would seem to be a pretty simple fix as well. They wouldn't need new molds, they wouldn't need to change the hole in the catheter for the inflation line (there's enough space). Just set things to slide the inner balloon back on the catheter further during assembly to place the balloons a bit closer together.

Offering a model with two balloons the size of the exterior balloon would also be a pretty simple modification (they already have the exterior balloon mold), although they would need to change the position of one of the inflation ports to have a smaller proximal balloon and a reduced space between them.

Of course it's a simple alteration.

The tube part and the balloons are made separately and then the balloons are assembled onto the tube. I am pretty certain this assembly is done by hand and not by machine because we have had at least a dozen of them over the years and the balloons are NOT all in exactly the same place.

One more thing, repeating one of SwitchableSusie's posts: The flutes in the 750cc nozzles that are more common now will allow the enema to flow right out onto whatever is under you until they are fully inserted and fully inflated. I had a "duh" moment inserting mine once - it was pressing up against some twist or turn (probably a valve of Houston, but could have been where the rectum turns to the sigmoid) so I thought "OK, I'll just give it a little shot of water to clear the way." Didn't work quite the way I expected, but I caught it before the water soaked the towel too much. These nozzles are probably best used after a small first enema (to thin out the mucus) or big squirt of lube into the anal canal/rectum.

^^^^ What you said is correct.

Fluted nozzles MUST be fully inflated so the flutes fill out or they will leak.

Re: fluted balloons. You can often reduce (not prevent) leakage from under-inflated balloons if you're in a knee/chest or face-down position. We all have our favorite position, but on your back or Sims will allow more leakage.

I have one of those wonderful silicone retention nozzles, the double bulb style.

I have a problem, every inflation bulb I have tried leaks and the baloons deflate. Can anyone suggest an inflator that doesn't have this issue?

There isn't enough room on the connection to put a clamp on the short hose from the bulbs, so a possibility is a couple of small barb connectors with a clamp on a short jumper. A bit awkward.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

If your bulbs leak, use a hose clamp between the inflation bulb and the nozzle and clamp it closed after you inflate the balloon.

You MUST inflate a fluted balloon ALL THE WAY so the flutes are fully expanded or else the water will leak between the flutes.

Susie is right on - put a hose clamp right after the inflator bulb. On mine there is just barely enough tubing to get a white-click clamp on there. I have to really push it on the hose, but it works. Or you'll have to use the 'jumper' tubing you mentioned. Or maybe find some of those surgical 'scissor' clamps that don't require any length of tubing to attach. Or inflate, pinch it tight with your fingers, remove the bulb and use something like an office binder clip to close the end.

I have 4 or 5 inflator bulbs, and they ALL leaked fairly early on, barely with any use.

Don't forget to always have the bottom of the bulb facing down while inflating the balloons so the little check valve closes. Once inflated, clamping the tubing keeps the bulbs inflated.

Dan

My first thought was to place a clamp to close off the the air flow, but, as I stated there isn't room on the nozzle I have. I specifically stated that in my post, I guess Switchable didn't read the entire post

Looks like a surgical clamp might be an answer, I'll see if I can find one that fits. It also confirms the valves in the inflators are crap.

Any other suggestions?

My first thought was to place a clamp to close off the the air flow, but, as I stated there isn't room on the nozzle I have. I specifically stated that in my post, I guess Switchable didn't read the entire post

Looks like a surgical clamp might be an answer, I'll see if I can find one that fits. It also confirms the valves in the inflators are crap.

Any other suggestions?

I can easily fit a nylon hose clamp on the inflation tubes of my double balloon nozzles and we have seven or eight of them.

The inflation bulbs are blood pressure inflators which only need to hold air for several seconds while BP is being recorded.

I have never had this problem before but I have often wondered where I would get new ones if they do ever leak.

I use clamps on my air hoses and shut them off after they are inflated. Works great!

As a recommendation against over-inflation, I'd do the following:

With the balloons completed deflated (squeezing out most of the air for ease of insertion), count the number of pump squeezes it takes to just fully inflate the balloon to "flatten" the fluted surfaces. Remember, that if you just release the air out of the balloons the balloons don't completely deflate. It will probably take one squeeze less to fill the each balloon from this state. My guess is the silicone balloons would be less forgiving to over-inflation than latex would be.

As a side note, there have been a number of comments on silicone balloons rated at 750 cc and that they probably aren't that large. I have one of those nozzles and I can attest that the large balloon IS NOT 750 cc. I have a measuring cup that is just large enough in diameter to allow the balloon to fully inflate. Filling the cup with water and then inflating the balloon to full capacity displaced 250 cc of water.

If inserted and seated properly, and then fully inflated it should have a minimum of leakage.

Okay, today my Rusch DBC outer balloon failed and popped on me while holding it inflated before I started my enema. It was less than two years, maybe closer to one. So now I have a functional single balloon model. I pumped the single balloon up to 8 pumps, but after 2.5 q of saline, I did leak a good bit getting up and moving to the commode, so I'm going to have to get used to how best to use the single balloon now.

I'm looking into buying another Rusch model from VetMed.co where I bought the first one, but it's much more expensive by 40% (now $140 without inflator bulbs) than the one that just failed. I had had three prior Rusch models from Beth Tyler that lasted over ten years so I'll ask about a partial refund from VetMed but I'm not too optimistic. Since I had such good performance with my prior latex DBCs, I've never seriously looked at any other models, latex or silicone, but just read a few posts here now and then. So, since others have experience with other models, any recommendations for a new DBC other than Rusch? Thanks,

Eric

To me, nothing other than the Rusch nozzles comes even close!

I bought two different Rusch DBRC from medtech3000.de, the standard 2 balloons, 2 inflators, and then the 2 balloons, single inflator model as well. For a number of reasons, I prefer the single-inflator model, when it pumps up both balloons, they feel amazing. Both nozzles and accessories have held up very well since I got them.