Sexually Abused by Doctors

http://www.buzzfeed.com/lenadunham/lena-dunham-why-i-chose-to-speak-out?s=mobile

I recall the case of the man who played Elmo on Sesame Street. One person accused him of sexual assault and then a torrent of accusers arose. The case of the first accuser was dismissed and then all the others went away. It's hard to believe when they wait so long and it's he said/she said.

I know, I'm tough.

My daughters know I could accept if they were forcibly assaulted or raped. I would support them and console them in every way possible, but I will not accept their saying they were "date raped." If they know someone and they get into a bad situation, they should leave or vigorously defend themselves with punches to the face, side swiping the nose so they break it, punches to the ears, punch or crush the adam's apple or literally gouging their eyes out with their fingernails, etc,

^^^ Forgot the heavy kick to the balls. 😈 😁

^^^^ You're right.

How could I have forgotten that?!?!?!

It's so obvious!

Turkent nailed it. For some reason, even as adults, some of us have to have the attention that every one else shies away from. good or bad. Doesn't matter as long as it's attention. I have run into a few of these low life maggots in my life time, and their constant need for more of the lime light is ridiculous. How will this woman be remembered?

Blog written in 2012 by a girl called Maria Mercedes Lara:

http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/doctor-abuse

She explains how she fell victim to, not one, but two pervy docs.

Key excerpts:

"After the doctor was done examining me, he told me stay in the stirrups and proceeded to put his fingers inside me. My whole body froze and I immediately looked up at the ceiling. Was this part of the examination? Were we not really done? I was feeling something that was truly indescribable.

I was nervous and I felt a rush of hot anxiety sweep over me as I lay, exposed, on the examination table. I felt like my entire body was shaking, but I wasn’t moving. My wrists were tingling with feeling but I couldn’t lift them. I felt like someone had pulled all the veins and nerves out of my body and let them spill out on the dirty floor. I glanced down at the doctor and I met his eyes, and noticed that he was grinning up at me. I stared back up at the ceiling."

(Second incident)

"My doctor was a quiet man who looked like he was only a few years older than me. I talked to him about my issues and he instructed me to lie down on the examination table. As I put my feet into the stirrups, the doctor ran a single finger down the length of my leg, from my ankle all the way to my genitals, where he began to touch me. I felt a lump form in my throat and felt that same hot, helpless feeling take me over again."

What do people make of this?

The second incident doesn't really sound like 'abuse' to me, more just highly inappropriate conduct (worthy of some disciplinary action though). But the first seems quite blatant. Is there a chance he was just doing a necessary internal exam and she just misread his smile for a perverted grin?

Is anyone turned on by her descriptions of feeling exposed & helpless?

Turned on, no way.

She may be a genuine victim. And she may not. We have no way of knowing.

As with the stories on this site and others, people write about real situations and memories. And they also write pure fiction for all our enjoyment. We have no way to distinguish. If she is a genuine victim, writing about it may be a part of her way of dealing with it.

As to your comment about the second incident - being touched inappropriately by a medical professional is abuse. Plain and simple.

As to your comment about the second incident - being touched inappropriately by a medical professional is abuse. Plain and simple.

Don't get me wrong, I agree, it was certainly a very bad thing to do. I was just wondering about the use of the term 'abuse'.

Btw, does anyone know why this article is only visible when I login? Aren't they normally visible to anyone on the site?

If it was a boyfriend, I might agree, but medical professionals must be held at a higher standard.

And there is the possibility she is making this up.

And the nurse was where during this? Certainly not protecting the docs malpractice insurance.

All very odd. Wrong if it happened. Odd in any case.

I wasn't one bit turned on. This was simply abuse or fantasy. I've certainly heard about real sexual misconduct but it was totally different. It was also punished swiftly with imprisonment and revocation of the offending doctors license.

From the UK

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/a1600252-I-was-abused-by-my-GP-wish-Id-reported-it

When I read experiences and other descriptions as in the link below, I often wonder what I might now have made of my own doctors experiences had I not taken a psychological 'turn' somewhere along the line of my development. By which I mean, I know when I was younger and up to my early 20s even, I was horribly scared of doctors and things medical when I was the one being examined or treated. And I wonder, if not for whatever tortuous path I took to end up embracing and enjoying the pleasures of this medical fetish, if I too may not have ended up seeing bad and uncharitable happenings and goings on when interacting with doctors and nurses.

What I mean is it is so easy to be suspicious of just about everything a doctor may or may not do. Some might complain and think it inappropriate if a doctor examines a patient before prescribing birth control, others may think it medically reckless should he not. It so often lies in a personal appreciation of the situation.

While such accounts are compelling I can only say this is an anecdotal narrative. That isn't to say however that it doesn't occur. I know if a case in California where an anesthesiologist was found to have taken advantage of patients under general anesthesia. He was found to have put his penis into the mouths of dozens of patients during surgery. This was somehow tolerated for decades. Also I know personally of a case where a doctor applied lubrication to a teenaged females genitals while doing a pelvic with saliva. Both cases ended in scandal, prison and loss of license. This is why it is of paramount importance to always use a chaperone.

Liquidsky^^^Yes, there's no doubt indecent & abhorrent incidences do occur...Similar cases (though rare) have happened here & thankfully offenders apprehended, charged & incarcerated--naturally med licences revoked...However you make a good point in that it's important to maintain a high standard for those that the general public place their trust in.

Subject of article has a substantial portfolio of internet images....not the innocent everyday type either.

That Australian, I think you might be getting the subject of this article (a random girl called Maria Lara) confused with the celebrity Maria Menounos (who also claimed to have been violated by doctors). I can't find any racey pics of this Maria Lara woman at all lol.

At what point is it abuse and at what point is it a thorough exam? I have had doctors do a two minute breast exam and I have had some doctors do a 10 minute breast exam. I felt better about the 10 minute exam. I want to know or at least have the feeling that I received a complete exam. Touching is not abuse.

Ladyj--Last sentence is spot on !!...Perception & reality could be confused or possibly abuse at the hands of an unknown assailant previously...As for the hand along limb incidence one could deduce that a nerve stim reaction test could have been employed to rule out agitation from anxiety complex as an assessable function based upon known patients pre-disposition toward gynaecologists...Which in some quarters a professional therapist treatment strategy might engage...It's certainly quite odd though such claims per xojane site which coincidentally has shut down & returned several times without offering explanation demonstrates cause for concern of said site due to it's own failure in verifying claimants assertions prior to print--certainly not wise....something don't add up.

Aside from the rather silly stuff in the article...there are many glaring devil in the details problems with this article. First she notes " the gyno looked" ..and then proceeded to put his fingers inside me" --ok so did did an internal after the speculum...probably not an issue. Then she has an anxiety attack...during which she sees the doctor "grinning at her" -- ok so no way to tell if this was an actual lewd smirk or part of the panic attack. Fast forward ... she calls a hospital and magically...in New York...every female gynecologist for miles around is booked for months. Pure bunk ( remember she notes earlier that she lives in Brooklyn not in the Adirondack wilderness). Next her doctor this time looks " a few years older than me" --she is 22 ....so ok maybe right out of school...regardless she feels compelled to bring this up to spice up the article a bit. Next we have the finger up the leg incident...ok this is odd...maybe...but was she in stirrups...laying flat on the table...he apparently then "touches" her genitals...but then she omits whether or not he gave her a pelvic exam. Now we get to her "shame" as a feminist writer not standing up for "smart strong women" -- does this mean that non feminists are stupid weaklings? And then we have her "lady-feminist duty to fight sexual abusers" -- translation -- I hate men and plan to make their life as miserable as possible because of course there must be something wrong with a man and woman that simply have a loving relationship that does not fit into my ideology...the poor non feminist is being sexually abused at every turn of the clock. And the article then continues forward with the requirement of feminist revenge that only occurs toward the end of the article.

Unfortunately real abuse does occur but things like this serve no purpose....obviously I do not believe a single word of this. Sorry to offend anyone who does. In Brooklyn this gal would perfectly fit the bill as a fine up and coming Yenta.

Regards

Greg

Three years on 12th June 2015 since revealing "story"...Well i'll be ??...Not a solitary word...why am I not surprised!!

Hi Sue and all,

Attack situation! Kick, Gouge, scream, stab!! All that good stuff!! FIGHT!! A friend once noted a simple device like a ball point pen, held in the fist, and quickly directed at the attackers temple will quickly,"Give him something to 'Think' about!!" I mentioned that to a lady friend one day when we were talking about "Ladies Self Defense" I told her about the "Pen Trick," and she thought it about it for about a second and then she busted out laughing!!!

Got a 'Pen??,"

highwater

PS, So this dude is hell bent on Raping you and you have this nice 9mm semi-auto 12 round mag and one in the chamber pistol and you unload it on this dude and the Judge asks you why you shot him 13 times and without a hitch and a straight face you look the Judge straight in the eye and say,"Well your Honor,... that's all I had!!"

It happens. It happened to me. What I don't get is why she went back to the guy after he did it? The article says "for years".

Nurse Phillips--That's what many seem to think...with no genuine explanation forthcoming....Earlier on I searched a number of reputable articles & by many accounts her standing is shall we say less than flattering.

The woman did not have a 9mm at the time of the ALLEGED incident so your point is rather irrelevant.

The woman did not have a 9mm at the time of the ALLEGED incident so your point is rather irrelevant.

Which is moreover mainly the imagined stuff for TV crime/cop shows anyway ... our modern version of fairy tales, meant to scare adults.

That Australian - I see that now. Like many I post first, read later haha. A bad habit.

Frankly I found her account to be suspicious. Especially since it happened with more than one doctor. Sexual abuse by doctors does occur but usually it gets reported immediately. I know of an egregious case in our hospital. The patient told her family. The follow up appointment involved the police. That is not to say that revealing unwanted sexual years later is not a legitimate endeavor. Many women repress such activities until years later. Besides wasn't there a chaperone in the room? Finally however I wonder about the veracity of such stories years later as you do Susie.

Ok. If I were her boyfriend I would do everything to convince her to tell it to the police. If she says the truth.

We certainly had some colorful thoughts and violent fantasies about this didn't we? ???

Agreed. Just what the world needs: Another gun without a brain.