Sexually Abused by Doctors

TV presenter Maria Menounos was apparently sexually abused by a doctor.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2157894/Extra-host-Maria-Menounos-reveals-doctor-abused-check-up.html

To me, her story doesn't really ring true. If she 'screamed', didn't anyone else hear? She doesn't say what happened after that. How did the doctor react?

That said, Maria Menounos is a nice piece of ass... so I couldn't blame the doc for copping a feel!

What do you guys think of her story?

I think her boyfriend is lucky to have such a hot girlfriend and for willingly be invited to watch her exams. Given her abuse claims, if I were her boyfriend, I'd demand to watch over the dr s shoulder during the exam!

I think that reports of almost anything that pertains to sex in the popular British media should be treated with the utmost skepticism and caution. I don't know if they invented muck-racking, salacious reporting, but they have certainly elevated it to a fine art.

And heaven knows they've been caught yelling 'wolf' where there is none far too often.

Agracier...I think your assessment could be considered as quite close to the mark....How many supposed newbie "stars" /"starlets" use this method of garnering interest through sensationalism by making claims that are often baseless let alone dubious ...All in an effort to bolster themselves by the way of self glorification...popularity seekers...Notice that rarely are the names of the said perpetrator revealed publicly ... Why ??...Threats or instigation of litigation !....Yep, vain Bimbo mentality is alive n well...

SIGH...Another attention seeker, another dull story.

Is a gynecologist commenting about her belly button ring considered molestation? Some situations are just awkward, and the doctor may have said that just to make conversation.

Interesting article about a performer seeking media attention in order to further her career. She probably did not wish to file a police report due to their investigation proving the allegation was a complete lie! While she may be cute, I don't think that every doctor she goes to, wants to molest her.

My husband has remarked that she is VERY cute! I have to agree.

She really has a beautiful body and face, but she shouldn't make remarks about being molested unless she is going to file a report and make good on it.

Dr Stiffler,

Yeah the gyno commenting on her belly ring doesn't seem like a big deal at all. The fact she mentioned that in the same conversation, in the context of sexual misconduct, discredits her initial claim a little.

Switchablesusie,

I agree. She is cute, I certainly wouldn't mind having her on an exam table! But yes, she shouldn't throw around such strong accusations if she didn't feel strongly enough to file a complaint.

Eh, it could go either way.

I discovered some interesting pictures of Maria here. Especially second row bikini pictures!

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=maria+menounos&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Nw5aVOygFYu07gbQyYD4AQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=785#facrc=_&imgdii=64y6RWXQoIaVnM%3A%3Bn3f3XkyLxpvjOM%3B64y6RWXQoIaVnM%3A&imgrc=64y6RWXQoIaVnM%253A%3BJtbKYEKZzWViSM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F4.bp.blogspot.com%252F-9uq0z3T99lM%252FUQgEB-b1CHI%252FAAAAAAAAAGk%252F1QUEJFBXiYk%252Fs1600%252FMaria%252BMenounos%252B13.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fbelajarpakaihijab.blogspot.com%252F2013%252F01%252Fmaria-menounos.html%3B646%3B1600

The one with the lip slip has been making the rounds.

Yeah, you guys are right. The easy thing is to change your doctor and move on with your life.

The same thing goes for the Bill Cosby accusations this week.

If it takes 20-30 years to complain, the accusations should be dismissed.

I'm absolutely disgusted by this thread. It's not easy to come forward about being sexually abused, nor is it something to poke fun of. It takes people years to even be somewhat comfortable to admit to themselves what happened. Especially if it's someone most people trust, or should trust or look up to. Just because it took years to be brought up doesn't mean that it never happened. And if it is all a lie then they are all pretty fucked up people.

Britt22090,

britt posted:

"It's not easy to come forward about being sexually abused, nor is it something to poke fun of. It takes people years to even be somewhat comfortable to admit to themselves what happened. Especially if it's someone most people trust, or should trust or look up to. Just because it took years to be brought up doesn't mean that it never happened. And if it is all a lie then they are all pretty fucked up people."

You are absolutely correct! Karma for you!

It does not matter if abuse happened yesterday or 100 years ago. It doesn't matter if it only happened once or was repeated more than once, if it was only in one way or countless ways the abuse was perpetrated.

Unfortunately, sadly, there are those who "cry wolf" for whatever reason. The tragic consequence of this is that it makes it harder for victims to come forward and seek and be awarded justice. As britt said "And if it is all a lie then they are all pretty fucked up people."

Just my personal humble opinion.

Andie

It does not matter if abuse happened yesterday or 100 years ago. It doesn't matter if it only happened once or was repeated more than once, if it was only in one way or countless ways the abuse was perpetrated.

There is a reason why virtually all societies work with legal statutes of limitation when it comes to prosecuting crimes. These are usually linked in length according to the gravity of a crime. And if legal codes usually set prosecution limitations to such horrible crimes as murder to anywhere from 20-25-30 years, then it only follows that lesser crimes should have shorter statutes of limitations.

If not, then we end up in a society that becomes almost Old Testament biblical, with sins and transgressions never being forgiven and being visited unto the 5th generation and archaic stuff like that. After a certain period people, either individually or collectively have to move on. Or else life becomes one never ending litany of woes and injustices. And then it's over before you know it. That's probably why many of the more enlightened modern religions preach forgiveness of sins. Because if one doesn't there will never be an end.

Imagine if all the peoples/countries/ethnicities of Europe kept on harping about the injustices of the past and seeking retribution - about past wars with all the horrible and atrocious accompanying killing, rapine, plundering and destruction. There wouldn't be a year of peace anywhere. And while narrowing the wish for retribution down to a single person is a somewhat different proposition, perhaps even less pressing when viewed from a vantage point of the General Good, it's still a useful guideline.

If past transgressions weigh on someone's mind, and if for whatever reason no legal accusations have been made in the accepted time frame, then by all means tell about it if necessary. But perhaps the best way to do this is as historians write about past wars and great tragedies. Not as a legal accusation with hopes for retribution, but as a way of understanding how such things came to pass in the hopes of preventing recurrence.

Agracier,

You make very good points. I am all for people who are victims of abuse finding a way to heal and move on. Some of these people do not go through the legal system to seek justice through prosecution and punishment through legal channels. Others do. Some victims are able to forgive easily much more so than others. Some allow what they have been through to make them victims over and over and over in countless ways. Other victims are able to take the abuse they have survived and become warriors and make this world a better place. How one heals and moves on from being abused is very personal, as well as how long or fast it takes. What one person does to heal from abuse is not a guarantee it will work for another

I know countless people who have been abused who do not come forward until after the statute of limitations has expired. They each have their own reasons. There are those who would argue that abuse is just as heinous as murder, that it is not a lesser crime.

Agracier, murder is one crime that has no statute of limitations in any jurisdiction I can think of.

Accusations should certainly be made in a timely matter otherwise it is just hearsay and one person's words against another, often with accusers jumping on the bandwagon especially if something is on the news.

Agracier, murder is one crime that has no statute of limitations in any jurisdiction I can think of.

Hmmm ... just saying you could perhaps set your sights beyond the US ... there are jurisdictions outside of the US where murder is subject to a statute of limitations. And may I add, with no higher homicide rate into the bargain.

One instance that is widely known, in the German Federal Republic, genocidal (war) crimes know no statute of limitations, a category that was especially created to distinguish it from other types of murder and homicide which do know prosecutoral limits. This was of course especially instituted to prosecute Nazi crimes. In Belgium where I live there, is also a time limit set for homicide, with the most grievous being 30 years, but with Crimes Against Humanity also having no limitations.

Jurisprudence is complicated, not to mention being implemented according to specific national and historic customs and usages. After the horrible inhuman beastliness of WWII, European countries in general apparently had more than enough of judicial killings by the state (with one specific instance being in everyone's minds) and accordingly enacted less draconian and vengeful laws over time.

Karma to Andie and to Britt!!! You both get gold stars in my eyes!!!

This is always a very difficult topic to discuss as it has wider ramifications for both sides but from reading the article its difficult to ascertain the facts of the abuse. It's all very vague and as such it's very difficult to draw conclusions one way or another.

Only Maria Menounos and they doctors involved know the truth. As Andie stated " It's not easy to come forward about being sexually abused, nor is it something to poke fun of. It takes people years to even be somewhat comfortable to admit to themselves what happened. Especially if it's someone most people trust, or should trust or look up to."

Anyone familiar with current events in the UK will know about this as this topic of sexual abuse has been in the public eye over the last couple of years and allegedly involves some popular celebrities or personalities, the same with the US recently.

Agracier forgiveness of sins is not always an easy concept to adhere too, in fact most people find it a long and difficult journey with many pitfalls along the way but I do take your point. Andie said it very eloquently " I am all for people who are victims of abuse finding a way to heal and move on. Some of these people do not go through the legal system to seek justice through prosecution and punishment through legal channels. Others do. Some victims are able to forgive easily much more so than others. Some allow what they have been through to make them victims over and over and over in countless ways. Other victims are able to take the abuse they have survived and become warriors and make this world a better place. How one heals and moves on from being abused is very personal, as well as how long or fast it takes. What one person does to heal from abuse is not a guarantee it will work for another"

Susie makes a very good point " Accusations should certainly be made in a timely matter otherwise it is just hearsay and one person's words against another, often with accusers jumping on the bandwagon especially if something is on the news."

Now if you consider that fact that the accusations made against the Doctors were false and it was made public, and its impact not only on their professional career, their family life and standing in their local community but also their mental well being and anguish. Not forgetting the legal implications and their fight to clear their name and seek justice and rebuild their professional standing.

So as i said at the beginning it has ramification for both sides and there is no easy solution

Short of killing someone, "crimes" based on hearsay and one person's word against another's (who isn't a convicted felon with a history) that go unprosecuted or unreported for 30 years are water under the bridge.

From the article:

Maria Menounos has revealed that she has been hiding the dark secret that she was molested by a doctor for years.

By A doctor for years?

If she wasn't going to report it, why not just change doctors after the first time it happened????

This is a publicity stunt.

Without first-hand information it is extremely hard to see the truth behind anything like this which goes through the media. Some here seem to be sure to know the actual facts, which I find rather bold. Yes, there are points in the article that seem doubtful. But are Ms Menounos's accusations completely true, only partly true, or totally false? Is she a semi-famous, semi-talented starlet doing anything for media attention, the victim of a crime, or a little of both? Who knows for sure.

Discussing the probability of her story is one thing, but some comments here are way beyond. No matter how high or low the probability is that Maria's accusations are true - just think for one moment how you would feel if you were the victim of abuse and would read statements like: "she's really hot", "very cute", "nice piece of ass", "wow, look at those bikini photos on the net", "I would love to have her on an exam table", "can't blame that doctor" etc. Those remarks are appalling. And besides, even if someone deliberately publishes bikini photos in sexy poses to further their carreer, it does NOT mean "hey, here's my body, help yourselves and do what you bloody well like whether I want it or not."

And again - as long as we don't know the truth I find the remark "change your doctor and move on with your life" inappropriate. Unreflected and cynical are the friendliest words I can think of for that attitude.

@Susie: you wrote "If it takes 20-30 years to complain, the accusations should be dismissed." I totally disagree. Not matter how long ago it was, any severe accusation should be taken seriously and be investigated, not in a witch hunt but in a professional manner. It is typical for abuse happening at a young age that it can indeed take decades until victims speak up. For various reasons - because they were kids and weren't aware it was a crime, because they were scared of that person and waited till he/she was dead, because the trauma was buried so deep they either couldn't face it or even forgot. This does happen, and not so seldom: people undergo therapy for depression, sexual hangups, the inability to bond etc., and in that therapeutic process an earlier abuse is unearthed. In that case it is the VICTIM'S and nobody else's choice how they want to proceed in the matter. Some then don't want to go public, others decide to bring the culprit to court. If failing to report something sooner is not a matter of free will, but happened because the victim just COULDN'T - do you seriously want to tell them "sorry, 20 years ago, can't help you"? Abuse destroys people's souls and lives. Definitely a major crime, and I see no reason to let someone who did that officially get away with it simply because he did it a long time ago.

Dr House,

Karma to you for your eloquent chosen words.

Andie

Re-read my last post.

"By A doctor for years."

If you're not going to report it, JUST CHANGE DOCTORS AFTER THE FIRST TIME. Allowing supposedly repeat offenses is her fault for not changing doctors.

Nobody dragged her to his office a number of times and nobody held a gun to her head.

I'm offended by the cavalier responses of some of our members. How can we judge someone's violent or sexual trauma if we haven't experienced a similar incident ?

I'm pissed by insensitivity of some of the comments.

A

Nobody is passing judgement we are offering opinion. Big difference between the two. There is an endless list of shallow attention seekers that populate the valley of dullards known as Hollywood. You can just add this one to the list as you mindlessly wear that bright shiny ribbon they tell you to wear. They complain on their blogspots from the safety and comfort of those perfectly manicured lawns within their fucking gated communities in the hills. Meanwhile in a nondescript alleyway in the dirty part of town a person lays on the ground bleeding to death of a gunshot wound or a pipe beating. Yet those in the hills claim to be a victim. Fuck the Hollywood attention seeking jet setters. Every last one of them.

Http://www.buzzfeed.com/lenadunham/lena-dunham-why-i-chose-to-speak-out?s=mobile