Homosexual men and anal sex...

I agree with Healthy44 that it's curiosity rather than worry. Humans are always curious about what others do.. Isn't that kind of the point of Zity?

I think most members here on Zity are not representative of an average citizen.

Not to strut our stuff around too much, but members here do tend to be more enlightened and accepting of a-normative sexual behavior. Meaning that we may indeed be more curious (and accepting) of gay sex, but other people in our respective countries are not that much, not to the same degree, not always.

Not to strut our stuff around too much, but . . .

And that may be the "problem" with the visible, mostly militant gays of the past 20-30 years: They were TOO visible and TOO vociferous and TOO gaudy in public for the average person to tolerate. Many of them did things that would be unacceptable in public to MOST conservative-to-moderate people, so being gay and using that mode to promote "gay acceptance" largely worked against them.

Uuuhhh, when I used the phrase 'strut our stuff' I was really talking about us members of Zity being more open minded than the average citizen on sexual matters. I wasn't talking at all about how some gays liked to show a public persona.

And that may be the "problem" with the visible, mostly militant gays of the past 20-30 years: They were TOO visible and TOO vociferous and TOO gaudy in public for the average person to tolerate. Many of them did things that would be unacceptable in public to MOST conservative-to-moderate people, so being gay and using that mode to promote "gay acceptance" largely worked against them.

But on the remark nonetheless: don't get me wrong on this, but it is very easy to say that gays should not have been so visible with their gayness. Sounds a lot like saying they shouldn't have been so uppity about it, since it tended to disconcert poor Joe Six Pack or Ozzie and Harriet and family, who for their part tended to believe a lot of very outrageous things and outright lies about gays.

It's sort of like the tendency parents had in the 60s to go all apoplectic about long hair on boys. No wonder so many started wearing long hair, you'd do it just to show how utterly ridiculous all the upset and end of civilization talk really was. So maybe some gays were a little camp in their outward appearance. You always get that with the avant-garde and artistic types and groups that herald social change.

Here is an article that I came across a bit by accident. But it does fit in with this in a way

They aren't---except maybe for the religious right and other hung up people.

Most people don't give a damn what others do in their bedrooms.

http://holebi.info/phpnews/kortnews.php?action=fullnews&id=14976

Dutch language article, but a synopsis: it says that the EU Agency for Fundamental Rights, concluded a study and found that (a whopping) 50% of EU doctors, nurses and medical personnel, consider homosexuality to be a disease. Meaning they consider it something that should preferably be cured. This opinion is mainly prevalent in countries like Italy, Latvia, Bulgaria, Hungary, Poland, Romania and Slovakia, with of course lower percentages in other countries as well.

Of course, former East Block nations skew averages in statistics for the EU in many ways, not only on the morality of homosexuality. But still, even with some massaging of the results, these percentages are quite high.

To go back to the original question of what percentage of gay men engage in anal sex:

Here's a link to an article that seems to imply that the percentage is not all that different for gay men and heterosexual women. The discordant note in the study is that it states that 37% of gay men regularly have anal sex, while 49% of women have had anal sex. Maybe a bit like comparing apples and oranges but still an interesting set of numbers.

http://www.alternet.org/sex-amp-relationships/anal-sex-women-way-increase-orgasms?akid=14535.1089244.BViNlR&rd=1&src=newsletter1061910&t=12

Here's a link to an article that seems to imply that the percentage is not all that different for gay men and heterosexual women. The discordant note in the study is that it states that 37% of gay men regularly have anal sex, while 49% of women have had anal sex. Maybe a bit like comparing apples and oranges but still an interesting set of numbers.

There is a difference between women who HAD anal sex (maybe only once) and gay men who regularly HAVE anal sex (frequently).

There is a difference between women who HAD anal sex (maybe only once) and gay men who regularly HAVE anal sex (frequently).

Yes. I already pointed that out in my post. Next time, I will simply say 'difference' and not 'a discordant note' ...

I too enjoy anal sex and anything related. Anal sex is great whether from another guy or from my girlfriend with a strapon or my 36" colon snake. Though when she fists me there is nothing more intense and body stimulating than that. I consider myself bisexual but prefer women.

I will take cocks all day I like to be fuck up ass don't like give like to be gandband by 4ro 5 man

I engage in anal sex, 70/30, that is 70% top 30% bottom. Although more often than not, my partner participated in oral and mutual masturbation, much less preparation

I am curious as to whether the percentage of homosexual men who engage in anal sex is decreasing due to the number of men ages 18 to 29 who want to bareback their male partner without wearing a condom on their penis. Last summer a 24 year old male removed all of my clothes, had me get on the bed and lower my head down between my knees so that my bottom was in an upward position, and became angry with me when I would not agree to being barebacked by him. He refused to use the condom that was sitting on the end of the bed even though I discussed the health reasons for using a condom. I did not allow him to bareback me. Has anyone else had this experience or engage in bareback anal sex without a condom?

ONLY AN IDIOT would allow someone who is not an exclusive partner for a long time to go bareback.

Not using a condom is just plain stupid.

He refused to use the condom that was sitting on the end of the bed even though I discussed the health reasons for using a condom. I did not allow him to bareback me. Has anyone else had this experience or engage in bareback anal sex without a condom?

I've had this happen before during my days of craigslist hookups. My current boyfriend and I had std testing before we stopped using condoms. I don't understand why people would be against condoms.

I've had this happen before during my days of craigslist hookups. My current boyfriend and I had std testing before we stopped using condoms. I don't understand why people would be against condoms.

Bad, erroneous or lack of sex education plays a role in this. There are many groups in society who see good, scientific sexual education as a moral failing, as promoting promiscuity, homosexuality and other deplorable failings. However it has been established that a lack of sexual education will cause just those things they deplore. Countries with the most intensive sex ed usually score best on all counts of safety, with less accidental pregnancies and STD's ...

And yet there are still people who will reject these findings out of hand, on principle.

And yet there are still people who will reject these findings out of hand, on principle.

They are called fuck-tards.

Bad, erroneous or lack of sex education plays a role in this.

as does selfishness.

as does selfishness.

Since anal penetration/intercourse without condoms is dangerous for both parties, just as much for the active as the passive party, I'd go with stupidity or willful ignorance as the more important reason.

Since anal penetration/intercourse without condoms is dangerous for both parties, just as much for the active as the passive party, I'd go with stupidity or willful ignorance as the more important reason.

@agracier why are you ranking reasons by so-called order of importance? I merely state an additional factor, and not necessarily hierarchically.

The presence of coercion is key. Coercive behavior is, fundamentally, selfish. No matter how subtle, or underhanded the pressure might be, it is still pressure that another party must try to navigate.

@agracier why are you ranking reasons by so-called order of importance? I merely state an additional factor, and not necessarily hierarchically.

The presence of coercion is key. Coercive behavior is, fundamentally, selfish. No matter how subtle, or underhanded the pressure might be, it is still pressure another party has to try to navigate.

Of course in the instance described coercion is the key. And yes coercion is ultimately selfish, it always is.

I was trying, however, to think of reasons why someone would coerce another to engage in a potentially dangerous manner in the first place. There has to be a reason beyond/predating selfishness, since the activity was dangerous to both. But apparently the person coercing didn't think it was dangerous to him. So, for me the question ultimately becomes: why did he think it was not dangerous?

I don't know any statistics but I can believe 40% of gay men don't have anal sexy.

I don't know any statistics but I can believe 40% of gay men don't have anal sexy.

I agree with that, possibly somewhat more do not have anal sex.

Most gays are into oral.

I just asked a close friend of mine about this. He told me he likes to suck dick more then go anal. I asked him why and he said he can give head without any prep work.

I am a bottom if you label but only with the right person. Oral and body contact can be just as fulfilling. Also only a condom for anal penetration. Being a medfetter fantasy of doctor exams and RT are just as fulfilling.

A lot of straight guys are into anal - pegging - i would presume most gay and bi guys lIke anal penetration As well.

I once read a post by a gay man on a forum. He said he didn't want anal sex. I guess most people assume they do. So it proves that the attraction is for the gender, and it's not just a desire for anal sex. Like others have said, heterosexual men may like anal play or sex.

@sundaybrunch , I've never had a sexual encounter with a man. I've never had any association with any gay ‘community’, so to speak.

For many years I have simply enjoyed the sexual sensations of anal penetration and the immense pleasure I achieve within my rectum and beyond. My wife of 30 years is the only person who has engaged in ass play upon me.

At this point in my life I definitely consider myself to be heteroflexible in the sexual perspective. I would take the biggest cock on this earth, without lube, for the purpose of rectal orgasm pleasure. Then say ‘Thank you’ and go back to ‘normal’.

I’ve heard or read it several times. Many gay men find anal sex painful or at least uncomfortable. Some enjoy it due to pressure on the prostrate among other things.

i understand the remark about the preparation needed. A gay acquaintance of mine mentioned cleaning his rectum with an enema before going to a sauna or similar (my wife and I also often clean up with an enema before anal). One then needs lubricant. Not very spontaneous!

From GQ: https://www.gq.com/story/the-biggest-myth-about-gay-sex

“…..according to a 2011 study of 25,000 men who have sex with men published in the Journal of Sexual Medicine, less then 40 percent of respondents reported in engaging in anal sex with their last sexual partner. In reality, we’re just not having anal sex as much as everyone thinks.”

@sundaybrunch , I've never had a sexual encounter with a man. I've never had any association with any gay ‘community’, so to speak.

For many years I have simply enjoyed the sexual sensations of anal penetration and the immense pleasure I achieve within my rectum and beyond. My wife of 30 years is the only person who has engaged in ass play upon me.

At this point in my life I definitely consider myself to be heteroflexible in the sexual perspective. I would take the biggest cock on this earth, without lube, for the purpose of rectal orgasm pleasure. Then say ‘Thank you’ and go back to ‘normal’.

That's exactly what I was talking about…

Why call it “anal sex?” If you’re not going beyond the anus, it’s just rimming, and you are doing it wrong.

The term is probably used out of tradition. Back when the first sexual research was being done or written about (Kraft-Ebbing, Hirschfeld and then going on to Kinsey etc) I don't think that the term ‘rimming’ was even in use. I cannot remember ever encountering the term before my internet days. It seems to be a new term. The activity, if much described at all, would have been called ‘analingus’ or just ‘anal-oral’.

And if I may be honest, rimming is not a very attractive term. There is something off-putting about it, though I can't put my finger on the reason why. There is something ‘tough guy macho' about it for some reason, something that even Tom of Finland might have found a bit too much off-putting … ha ha.

I hope someone comes up with a more attractive term or slang word one of these days.