Cramps and Enemas

I use a 3' colon tube and run my 4+ quarts in slowly--perhaps a half hour or more--in order to avoid cramps because they force me to expel on the floor of the shower where I am lying and I do not like that. I like to enjoy the pleasure of the process, not the discomfort.

hankb

I find it very difficult to avoid cramps totally with the first "clean-out" enema. Following that try using a mixture containing some peppermint tea. It is soothing and given slowly you can take a whole lot without cramping. Are there other solutions that minimize cramping?

Yeah Ron, try baking soda, 0ne tablespoon per quart of warm water, injected slowly. If you don't activate the stretch receptors with too fast an injection, these are very gentle on the gut. Be aware that they sometimes are hard to get to expel everything, they are so mild.

When I was a child my Mom used a bar of castile soap and made a real soapy mixture before pouring into the bag and boy did I get cramps, I think it was also because she didn't let the air out the line to. I still use castile soap but I let the air out of the line and I don't really get sever cramps but I do get cramps but they are not that bad. I think we more as we grow up.

Ron- I use just plain tap water and I like to think that it reduces the incidence and severity of cramps.

hankb

The best parts of a good soapy enema are the insertion, the sensation produced by holding the nozzle and, yes, the best parts are the heat the cramps.

The hot soapy enemas I got from Mom definitely caused cramps, I'd beg her to stop, but she insisted that the cramps were the enema doing its job. I don't need cramps for my relaxing or erotic enemas now

I don't remember unpleasant cramping when receiving, as a small child. I definitely had an increasing urge to expel, but it didn't hurt, it just made me want to use the potty which i exclaimed with increasing desperation.. Once on the potty, though, I would have cramps so bad that I'd always cry. I was enjoying the whole thing, even the pain, but the crying was as involuntary as the strong bowel contractions. I wish that I'd been able to not cry. My crying might have been partly why my mother stopped giving me the enemas. I missed them so much that I started self-administering at 8 years old.

Sandi: , you indicated enema and douche: How old were you, then? Were the douches also unpleasant for you?

Kid: you said, "I think we more as we grow up." I don't understand that, even in context. "We more" what? that's an interesting post. I want to understand it.

Bagful41: You posted that someone's post failed the "sniff test". Which one?

LisaK: My enemas don't hurt unless I want them to, but they work just fine for me and my receiving partner.

Emom: different folks like different things. We cramp lovers are not defective (I hope) but just different (I also hope) :-)

I like chemical cramps, but not so much so mechanical cramps. I don't like chemical cramps to persist much past expulsion, though. I use many kinds of laxatives in my enemas. The only one that I have to be very careful of dosing is bisacodyl. One bis pill works nicely. Two work a bit too fast for my taste, but aren't very residual if I remember correctly. I don't remember using three, but four leave me unpleasantly aching for over an hour.

There have been many posts about bag height. It doesn't matter how high the bag is if you restrict the tube width,, say, by setting the stopcock to a partial closed position (for the modern stopcocks that have intermediate settings). If you think of water as electricity, height as voltage (V), rate of flow as current (I) and tube resistance as R, (resistance in this case is simplified) then I=E/R. increasing R compensates for the increase of E from height.

You either want an enema or you don't.

If you do, cramping is part of the retention process.

f you don't maybe you should be doing something else.

I agree with Lisa. Cramps are art of GE press and frankly I enjoy them strangely. Makes me know enema s working

CRAMPS ARE TOTALLY UNNECESSARY for an enema to be effective.

A person may like cramps, but if the object is a medically effective enema, cramps are not needed and generally not desired.

If you don't know how to give a good cleansing enema without cramps, you don't know how to give an enema.

Enemas and cramps go hand-in-hand, at least for me (as well as something else going hand-in-hand with an enema)... Interesting the way one's mind can become programmed when young and pliable such that things that that gave pain (enemas, spankings) to in later years be "pleasurable".

Cramps are part of the enema!!!

A person may like cramps, but if the object is a medically effective enema, cramps are not needed and generally not desired.

I completely agree. With me, though, cramps are sort of hit and miss. Sometimes I don't get them at all, everything goes well, and we have a happy outcome... other times they'll start to come on and keep getting worse and and it's like "oh, no not now". Perhaps I haven't quite figured it out.

I disagree with Susie. if you fill the colon completely, and slightly distend it, as most enemas should, (unless just cleaning the lower colon and rectum) cramps are most likely to occur. the colon reacts to stretching.

Susie never said anything about filling the colon completely, which would reduce the likelihood of cramps.

Filling the colon completely will not reduce cramps. The colon responds to stretch by peristalsing which equals cramps.

I think I might have been misunderstood.

Susie commented cramps were unnecessary.

Manybags disagreed with Susie stating that filling producing cramps.

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with manybags, I simply commented that Susie never mentioned filling.

I guess my mileage varied. In my experience cramps lessen as my colon fills. When I was doing coffee retention enemas I used a two bag setup. One bag with coffee, the other with baking soda. I needed a constant abdominal massage to control the cramping caused by the coffee solution. At the end of the retention period, typically twenty minutes, I added the contents of the second enema bag to my colon. As the additional volume of liquid filled and expanded my colon the cramps abated. I still had the urge to go, but not the worry over leakage.

Even today, during my regular cleansing enemas, any cramps that manifest initially reduce in intensity as the enema bag empties. I stop the flow multiple times during these enemas to permit the soap and soda solution to disperse.

To echo what others have said, those early enemas from mother were crampy and painful, thus imprinting what an enema should be like. When I began self administering on the sly I duplicated the soapy solution and full flow of mom's enemas. My self administered enemas were just as much an ordeal as the one's from mom. I was well into my twenties before I learned that not need be the case.

When I am finally lucky enough to find that med get dr, I want the cramping to realize my fantasy

CRAMPS ARE TOTALLY UNNECESSARY for an enema to be effective.

A person may like cramps, but if the object is a medically effective enema, cramps are not needed and generally not desired.

If you don't know how to give a good cleansing enema without cramps, you don't know how to give an enema.

Switchablesusie

You are right but there exist people not being interested in having an effective enema in order to cleanse the colon, but exclusively interested in having an effective enema concerning the cramps - for me this is a special sort of a masochism (concerning the receiver of an enema) or of a sadism (concerning the giver of an enema).

Switchablesusie

You are right but there exist people not being interested in having an effective enema in order to cleanse the colon, but exclusively interested in having an effective enema concerning the cramps - for me this is a special sort of a masochism (concerning the receiver of an enema) or of a sadism (concerning the giver of an enema).

You quoted me in your post where I said there are people who like cramps.

If I want to give someone an enema to cause cramping, it isn't difficult to accomplish. One of my rough ride enema recipes will do just fine.

I remember many cramps when I took enemas with soap. With chamomile few cramps. Grandma put much soap. Today I prefer the chamomile enemas.

Ricini spoke of chemically-induced cramps: I like chemical cramps, and also distension cramps. Someonw wrote that intestinal gas causes (some) cramps, whhich, of course is true. Sometimes I'll inject some air before taking the enema so as to get cramps. I have used bisacodyl for that. My results vary and I don't know why, when I'm taking a small dose of the medicine in my enema. If I take 3+ tablets, iirc, I had persistent burning abdominal pain for over an hour, no matter how many rinses I took.

Milk and molasses was my first experience with a non-soap purgative enema. I was inexpressibly thrilled about such fast, crampy desperate urge from 8 oz. I last tried m&m about 20 years ago, and seem to have stopped responding to it. Too bad; I kept a gallon of molasses in my room just for that. I wound up using it for cooking when I gave up on having my previous enjoyment with it.

Emom spoke of disliking and avoiding cramps. 30 years ago, that would've been unimaginable to me. Now I mostly feel as she does.

guzzleguzzlekid spoke of cold water enema cramps. for me, at least, cold water cramps are an isometric cramp. When I want cramps, I usually like peristalic cramps. Still, I use cold water for fun, sometimes. Mostly, though I use cold water enemas to cool of in summer. With cold water in my bowel, I can feel my whole body cool down rapidly. It is quite an experience for me. I have to be careful that I don't become uncomfortably chilled.

Sandi22355--Got to wondering. Cramps can very often be caused by water that is too cool. Since your mom often had the bag already filled and waiting for your "surprise" I wonder if maybe the water cooled to a temperature below body temperature and caused your cramping. Compare that with today when you make your own temperature adjustments and the bag doesn't hang there a while.

I do not experience cramps when taking an enema. The enemas seem to do their job just fine in all cases!! Karen

I guess the many aboard Zity that love cramps would put me in the "wus' camp, however, I do enemas to clean myself out periodically and enjoy the process at the same time. That means I use temperate water, often mixed with J&J baby shampoo. This has proven to clean me out thoroughly while still being able to enjoy my "alone" time doing a healthy intestinal flush.

The entire process is to be enjoyed and for me that means alleviate the cramps as much as possible. I respect others who go for the cramp-filled flush as well.

I will do whatever it takes to avoid cramps. Usually rapid filling of the rectum will give cramps until you get that magic feeling as the enema goes round the bend into your sigmoid colon. So when I feel a cramp coming on, I just stop the enema and wait. Then when I can actually feel the enema moving on, the clamp is opened again. Isn't it fun?