Shemale Transexual

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Many have talked to me about it over the years, ...

That makes good sense and seems very reasonable. After all, what you describe is sort of like having the best of possible worlds - a feminine body (on the whole) along with a male outlook on sexuality, feelings, (non) commitment and pleasure. And as a plus, no need to take precautions against pregnancy. Maybe an old-fashioned concern, but still something to keep in mind.

Certainly all those things make for more carefree, if transitory, sexual fun. Many men obviously still long for a degree of femininity or a female looking body, but don't mind the one difference in genitals, especially if shaven clean, which I would presume, heightens the ambiguity of the whole.

Agracier, that is so very true.

It is something that no man has ever told me, and also something that I foolishly had never even thought of. But yes, you are absolutely correct I think. They have a girlfriend and there is absolutely no chance of her falling pregnant, and them then having father responsibility

it is something that no man has ever told me, and also something that I foolishly had never even thought of. They have a girlfriend and there is absolutely no chance of her falling pregnant, and them then having father responsibility

Well, looking at the number of unwanted pregnancies in some states, it looks like lots of men don't think much about the chance of pregnancy either. Like it's never going to happen to them, no siree ...

One of the things my father really imprinted on my teenage brain, whenever he was home from sailing the high seas and provisioning the armed forces somewhere in the wide world, was to never ever ever get a girl pregnant, never never ever take a chance. It will ruin your life at a young age and determine the rest of it in a very adverse way. So this is something that even now, is still on my mind - needlessly I might add, but still there under the surface.

Perhaps men with a trans friend/partner have subconsciously shed any possible worries in that regards, giving a relationship/encounter more leeway to be carefree and fun for its own sake.

Would love to hook up with a shemale or transexual. Have fantasized a great deal about about having her cock in my mouth and ass. Have considered going to Amsterdam in search of an adventure. Those in Singapore are absolutely gorgeous and hard to tell the shemale/transexual from biological female. What a wonderful world.

The term shemale is very offensive to transgender persons

What's the best term to use?

Generally, he, him, she, her. Do you talk about 'the diabetic' or 'the depressive?' Labels suck.

I will only say that in one of my dreams would I love a "Chick With A Dick"

The term shemale is very offensive to transgender persons

I suspect in polite circles you are quite right. However, I also suspect most of us have likely only seen transgender people on porn sites where they are regularly referred to as shemales. Thus, I plead ignorance due to conditioning. In any event, as I posted earlier, sucking the cock of a transgender person and then being fucked in my ass with that cock are something I dream about and would love to experience. I also said I am straight as I don't want to cuddle up with a guy. I think what I really am is bi-curious. I also doubt I will ever act on that curiosity as I don't believe the opportunity to act on it will ever present itself.

I'm going to burst a lot of bubbles here. I have spent most of my adult life among the queer community. There are hundreds of transgender women in The Gay Village, and there's Maitland St. where the trans hookers hang out. I know lots of them. I've worked with lots of outreach programs, including MealTrans, to help feed homeless trans youth, and numerous Aids committees.

No other genre of porn is more made up that 'Shemale'. (a really derogitory term) It's pure fantasy.

Trans women are WOMEN, they have ZERO desire to fuck a guy....ZERO.

Shemale porn invented the penetrating transwoman.

Trans women are all on a combination of anti-androgens (to eliminate testosterone, and physically to eliminate some male traits, most importantly erections) and estrogen, to both create some female traits (softer skin, breasts, hips) but most importantly the effect is mental (ridding the tendency to drink beer and shoot things, and think more like a woman.) Estrogen also kills erections, shrinks the penis, and testicles. Also, even a freak erection, caused by the body doing a self-diagnostic, can cause suicidal dyphoria, because the erection (and just still having a penis) IS THE ENEMY.

Trans women can't get it up!!!! (With a few exceptions)

So how did porno create the hybrids we see. First of all, they are in third world countries, mostly Brazil, and Thailand, and dotted around the S. Pacific. They are very poor, and will do dangerous things to make a living. By all means, go to Pattaya, and get a hooker. In real life, they wear filthy clothes, rarely bathe, and ALL of them would rather rob you. But you will get laid, and bring home some nice surprises for the wifey.

They do something called cycling, which is to go off their hormone regimen periodically until erectile function returns. Then they make movies. Then they go back on to prevent turning into neanderthals.

What about trans street hookers? Sadly, drug abuse is rampant, and what money they make goes to drugs, not hormones. They, for the most part do not look like porn stars.

Cycling hormones is Russian roulette. The human brain is not prepared to switch back and forth between female brain, and male brain with the regularity needed to perform in porn movies. Mental illness, and depression is rampant, and the suicide rate is always over 40% among trans people. In short, cycling hormones makes you as crazy as a shit-house rat. THAT'S how desperate these women are!!!

Yes, there are transwomen capable, and enjoying the ability to get erect, and to penetrate men. There are all types in this world. I have councelled 100's of transwomen, and have met ONE, she enjoys her job as an escort. More power to her.

'Shemale' porn is the only category, where to keep up the demand, they actually had to chemically create a new type of human.

Can you meet a trans woman for dating, marriage, etc? ABSOLUTELY, they are WOMEN, and want partners just like any other woman. Asking them to fuck YOU will just reinforce an impossible stereotype, and probably ruin what might have become a wonderful relationship.

The Queer community loves it's transwomen, and we work hard to keep them safe, off the streets, away from drugs and disease, and away from being exploited just for being who they are.

When I first started out as a teenager as identifying as trans, I was not on any hormones or blockers. I 100% wanted to have gender reassignment surgery as soon as possible. I was doing sex work, so I quickly found out that most clients wanted a fully functional Penis.

As I was undergoing counselling at a gender identity clinic, after a period of time I was prescribed hormone treatment. Your body begins to develop female features. Your hips start to grow, your boobs start to grow, your mind is making you feel more womanly. Your confidence and self belief increases, and you start thinking more the same as a woman.

You have the inevitable side effects. Morning sickness, headaches, weight gain, you become very tearful and above all you start to lose any chance of getting erections. As the dosage of hormones increases all of these things increase.. Also the risk of DVT, liver failure and heart and cancer risks increase. Not having erections is superb, as they are quite frankly the last thing you want. However when you are doing sex work, it actually makes getting clients and bookings much more difficult.

By this time I had been lucky enough to have been loaned enough money to have a breast augmentation.

This, together with my sex work infuriated my psychiatrist at the gender identity clinic.

We had a massive fall out and I was discharged.

However, my own GP continued to support me, and to continue prescribing me the hormones.

I frequently used to have a break from the hormones, partially to reduce the risk of blood clots, liver disease and heart disease, and cancer risk, but also to try and keep a bit of a functional penis for my sex work.

At about 27 or 28 years of age, through to about 34 or 35, I found myself in a relationship with a man who was a long time client. I was very happy, and wanted to look my best and most feminine as I possibly could. I was taking more than my prescribed dose of hormones. The ones, I had not taken in my breaks away from them I was now taking in addition to my prescribed dose. I know it was stupid, but I was in love with someone for the first ever time in my life. My thoughts, and body shape were probably at the most feminine I have ever been, I even got asked to model plus size hosiery for a new promotional shoot !, however my boobs were extremely sensitive and tender, much more than they have ever been. It was picked up on more than one occasion at my regular check ups that I was on the verge of lactating.

Because of these breaks, I could still get erections when stimulated. Although nothing like before the hormone treatment. However, it was enough to satisfy my regular clients, and therefore keep money coming in.

However as I got older, and gave up the sex work, I know once again, I want to have the complete reassignment surgery done as soon as possible. However unless I can afford to get it done privately, I will have to start through the whole referral and hospital visit process all over again.

I am a trans woman myself, and gender is defined by what is between the ears, not legs.

The correct pronouns for a trans woman are she and her, for a trans man are he and him. Regardless if the trans woman or man had surgery or is on hormones or not. Medical (health) and financial situations can be one reason not all transgenders can transition.

I will always remain trans, as I was born AMAB. (assigned male at birth) Now after my recent genital reconstructive surgery, I consider myself a woman of trans experience.

If I am to date someone I will let him or her know my trans history, for fairness and safety. But other than that I am a woman. Legal, medical and physical.

Erin

Buttwoman said

Trans women are WOMEN, they have ZERO desire to fuck a guy....ZERO.

So they are lesbians?

Not directly addressed to me but I like to answer.

Trans woman and man can be lesbian, straight and bi... and all the other labels, gender identity and sexual orientation are not the same.

For myself I am sexually attracted to man and romantically attracted to woman. I am married to my wife, so I am "legally" a lesbian, in a same sex marriage. (legally because the law will treat me that way)

Erin

So they are lesbians?

You know better than that!!!!

They are women with a birth defect. For the most part they HATE thier penis. They can be straight or lesbian, but usually do not involve thier OWN penis in sex.

Now I understand 'shemale' is a derogatory porno term for a sexually exploited group of trans women in the sex industry who voluntarily or involuntarily go on and off of hormones to satisfy male customers of a certain odd type.

This discussion is also helping me better understand my own complex, confused sexuality. As Ms Erin says, gender identity and sexual orientation are not the same. Ms Erin has long been a woman in a man's body, and finally now she has a woman's body. trasgirl, I guess you'd love to do what Ms Erin has done to get her new body. With the sex of her body being the same as her identity now, Ms Erin is free to be straight, lesbian, or bisexual now. Since she's sexually attracted to men, she'll be a straight woman with a romantic, non-sexual relationship with her wife.

I've recently come to understand that I have a split (bisexual) gender orientation, which I share with Buttwoman and Ms Erin, although Ms Erin's is mainly romantic toward women. Ms Erin and I both have an unfulfilled sexual orientation toward men.

I'm pretty sure I have a split gender identity, maybe 2/3 male and 1/3 female. Since my gender identity is mainly the same as my birth sex, I'm not desperate to escape my male body like Ms Erin was and transgirl was and may still be, but I'm pulled strongly in that direction. I think cross-dressing men and drag queens have the kind of split gender identity I have.

My ideal world is an impossible fantasy. It's a world in which both my wife and I could pop back and forth at will between having a hot female body and a hot male body. We would both enjoy changing our sex (bodies) back and forth, and we would both love to have sex with the other in whatever bodies we've chosen to be in at the moment. We could enjoy every kind of sex I crave or want to try--straight sex in our birth sexes (bodies), straight sex with our birth sexes flipped, gay sex, and lesbian sex. I'd be in paradise. If anyone's written an erotic Sci Fi novel like this, I'd love to read it.

Ms Erin, I hope your post-op healing is totally successful, you get full sexual function, and you find a male lover who fulfills you sexually if that's your goal. I noticed a couple of male Zity members commenting on your post-op pictures are already interested in you. I'm excited for you.

Buttwoman, thanks for helping to take care of the needy trans women in Toronto. I'm glad you care about them, and I care about them now too.

SwitchableSussie, thanks for being an excellent moderator.

I would love to get to know someone of the “third kind”. For me, if an attraction is there nothing else really matters. My history includes MF and some experience with MM. And then there’s my imagination. Physical stuff, unless it’s hygienic, doesn’t bother me.

I think it would be fun to get to know a trans woman and I wouldn’t rule one out as a sex partner.

Wildbill; when I was young and full of cum I was very into reading sci-fi and fantasy. I came across an author named Jack L. Chalker. His stories always included gender shifts as well as shifting from human to other alien life forms. Although not pornographic he went into great detail on the psychology and physiology of what it felt like to change bodies and genders. Quite the influence on a young mind that was already wired towards gender curiosity.

I would love to get to know someone of the “third kind”. For me, if an attraction is there nothing else really matters. My history includes MF and some experience with MM. And then there’s my imagination. Physical stuff, unless it’s hygienic, doesn’t bother me.

I think it would be fun to get to know a trans woman and I wouldn’t rule one out as a sex partner.

Go ahead, find a transwoman as either a long or short term partner. Treat them with respect, the same way you would treat any WOMAN. Remember- odds are about 90-1 she won't fuck you- either unable, or just because she's a woman, and women don't fuck guys. You'll all in all be better off finding a cisgender woman with a strap on.

I'm strangely attracted to a sexy trans woman with little hormone enlarged tits, feminine hair and makeup, who dresses up in sexy lingerie and acts and looks exactly like a very attractive woman except for her little hormone shrunken genitals with a tiny penis that probably can't get erect anymore. I just want to hug and kiss her and cuddle with her, unsure what, if anything, we would do sexually, but very curious about what she might like me to do for her. I think of her totally as a woman, not a man who can fuck my ass.

I do see what you mean when you say "women don't fuck guys." A trans woman, in my understanding, doesn't see her penis as something to use to fuck anyone. She sees it as a big clit maybe, or maybe as something foreign, not really a part of her. As I understand their situation, Trans women who go off their hormones just to be able to get an erection and work as a 'Shemale' in the sex industry, are selling their bodies to do something completely against their female nature. They are exploited far more than conventional female prostitutes who get paid for something they might actually enjoy at times.

However, just to be picky about word usage, women do fuck guys in a broader meaning of the word fuck. A woman might say to her guy, "Let's fuck." Guys sometimes say about a woman, "She loves to fuck." I guess you could counter that 'to fuck' here is just short for 'to be fucked.' Or you could just say, "fuck off."

I have never been attracted to a man or wanted to suck a dick. I have sucked on my wifes dildo during roll play. For the last year I have really been fantasizing about laying down with a pre-op and doing it all. Weird but I think I would be fine learning to suck a dick as long as I could hold breasts. Maybe I've been bi and didn't know? I'm already into anal so I think it's hot.

Love trans been with many i am looking all over who is verse....its hard to find so to speak

Yeah that is one of my biggest fantasies is to be with a transsexual. Ever since I seen my first video . Don’t know why but it’s such a big turn on for me . Especially when my wife has her strap on it drives me wild !!

I agree with this post. Not into even trying to give a blowjob, but open to receiving and giving anal to a transsexual.

So ummmm...this thread... ::blush:: lol. That said, as a transwoman I hate the term shemale. Also, I guess I can understand the fantasy boys but, just so you know... most transwomen do not have ANY desire to penetrate a man or have him suck their penis. I don't even like it being acknowledged or touched except with the most trusted and loved partners. I actually find gay men to be a turn off for me; as odd as that may seem most. I mean I don't judge but, it does absolutely nothing for me to think about two men. Before anyone asks, I have no problem with two women and find it attractive. However, for perspective, if I was with a woman at this point in my life I would only perform lesbian acts with her. I have no desire to penetrate anyone with my clitty (penis). I am open to strap ons though. If a partner really wanted me to fuck them that would be the only real option again unless I really loved them and trusted them.

Also, to the he guys with the "am I gay complex"...wanting to play with a penis does not make you gay...boys love to play with their penis and it is not surprising to think they would inquire about playing with another. Now, if you fantasize about living life with another man and get turned on by a Male physique then yes you may be on to something...lol. But, most clearly state they are attracted to the look of a woman but, feel like a penis would be fun. You are straight...relax. A guy who enjoys pegging is not gay. Whether it is a strap on or flesh dick... if you are attracted to the thought of it on a woman...you are still fantasizing about a woman. You're straight or at worst bi. As if it really matters. ...lol. If you like it and it doesn't hurt anyone...who cares about the label.?.

JustSam very insightful and truly learned, thanks for sharing. I wish folks in someday and age realize pleasure is not a sexual designation. It is a sharing of gratifying contact pleasurable to both or all participants. Love and be loved, then drop all the F##king labels that denigrate one's self-being.

People be accepting of others' differences, that is what makes us all special.

Wow this thread is very insightful and truly learned about trans women.

I dream of sex with a trans woman. And sucking cock does not make you gay, it makes you a cock sucker in the good way!

@JustSam yea this whole thread… just kinda reeks of chasers.