Colon Tubes: Where and what to buy?

What would be the longest tube that one could safely use without any risk of injury?I have never used any and would like to know in case I decide to try one?Is there anything special that I would need to know before using one either on myself or having someone else use it on me?

There is no longest (or shortest) tube anyone could use on you without risk of injury.

You can puncture yourself with a four or six inch nozzle or a ten inch rectal tube if you have a congenitally weak area, or you push too hard, or you get the tube stuck against a plical ring the wrong way.

There are many posts on the topic to read here. You really should read them.

"I'm curious if you can really "feel" a difference from a tube inserted 12" vs. 24" vs. farther? I get the part about cleaning out farther, etc, but I'm into the feeling not the utility. Can someone explain how it feels much better than a nozzle filling?? "

I can definitely feel the difference, especially if I use water that is a bit on the cool or warm side rather than body temp. It isn't so much "better" as just different. They all feel pretty darned good. But feeling the water starting to flow up in you abdomen rather than working its way up is pleasant and interesting.

Plus the feeling of having the tube inserted has its own rewards.

You can absolutely feel the colon tube traverse the entire colon, although not everyone can tell exactly where the end of the tube is "from the inside". You can feel is going around if you aren't too overweight as you do abdominal massage to massage it through the colon. If you couldn't feel it, no one would be asking for pain meds and sedatives for colonoscopies. It's just that some of us really like those sensations.

The filling sensation is a little different wit the colon tube, but for me, the sensation of the tube going around is what I like. The filling sensation with the tube is secondary.

I recently purchased a 42fr 36" silicone colon tube that works quite well. The latex smaller diameter tubes had a tendency to "double back" and kink up. The new one is stiffer but also still quite flexible and soft to the touch. I think the vinyl tubing in hardware stores is too stiff and inflexible to navigate all the bends and twists. The last thing you want is to be poking a hole in your intestines. I really enjoy "deep play" and also have a 36 inch long, one inch diameter dildo aptly named "The Colon Snake". Getting that snake all the way requires a lot of lube, even more patience and some "quick cleansing breaths" to get the last few inches in. Anybody else like stuff up their rears besides enema equipment?

Hi Grumpyboy!

Yep, there are not a few of us who are into inserting both objects and material up our bums. So far we have had bananas, cucumbers, apples, tomatoes, grapes, butternut squash, instant porridge, ready dough - these are off the top of my head! Do some searches based on that lot and you will have fun reading! The Colon Snake sounds like fun!

Johnny

Hi, Grumpyboy--

I'm with you; the insertion of a nozzle, especially a loooong colon tube is probably as much or more fun than the enema itself.

I have 36fr.and 48fr. silicone tubes from OHN and they are the greatest!

I also have a colon tube I made from 13/16" ID latex gum rubber tubing with 3/32" walls, with an outside diameter of 1 inch. I rounded the end and punched some side holes near the tip, using a leather punch. It is a little hard to get started, and the only time I can insert it 30 to 36 inches is after a good cleanout, and with lots of lube, but wow! What a terrific sensation!

Wow! I googled that colon snake and that just looks awesome.

^^^^ Wow is right. The 1 1/2" one is even larger than the 1 1/4" OD x 1/2" ID hose we have. The difference in flexibilities in such a heavy hose are also interesting considerations! Extremely heavy hoses like the 1" and 1 1/2" colonsnakes with 1/4" bores probably don't have to be too rigid because their widths alone, especially the 1 1/2" one, should prevent it from folding back on itself inside the colon. YUM!

I am going to order both sizes of colon snake as soon as I find out what country the merchandise is shipped from.

If it is shipped from the USA (JoeysGear), it should be fine, but it isn't clearly stated that it is shipped from the USA. I don't want to risk ordering from another country like the UK (Pumphouse) and risk customs problems. It also isn't completely clear what the credit card statement will say if ordered from JoeysGear.

If anyone has information on this, I'd like to know.

I have about a 20 inch that usually goes in but sometimes it gets kinked. Maybe I should look into getting one that is less apt to kink up cause it can be more of a mess then - 😢

Hi watsum I have a 48f. colon tube, which is 7/16in. o.d.

4ft. long. no matter how I tried I can not get more than

24in. in me before it starts to hurt. hte feeling of it sliding up your ass is great. The feling of the water flowing

way up in your belly is different than a douche nozzle (which

I use all the time) you can feel the water way up inside you,

if you are slim like me you can feel the end of the tube up

near your ribs. I connect mine to a 5qt. bag but can't take

it all, most Ican take is exactly 4qts. But it sure feels good.

Have a good time

ilikees

Susie is onto something. A large diameter tube has a great advantage if it is flexable. It will flex, but not kink . Ideally, a tube that is the most flexable is the most desirable, and this can be accomplished with a 3/4" O.D. x 1/2" I.D. gum rubber tube. The large diameter tubing with an end device (something with a rounded nose) can penetrate with water flow and gentle pushes getting around the folds without discomfort. If you get to a point where the tube won't go without discomfort, let the water flow for a moment and then try again. If you are clean beforehand, you'll be amazed at the length you can handle, and the interesting sensations of a really deep insertion. It seems to me that this is safer than the stiff small tubes that could possibly cause a puncture.

I have an FR60 size colon tube, which is about 3/4 inch diameter and it must be about 4 feet long. I can only take about 15 inches or so, but some day I must try extra lube. I have read that lots and lots of lube is really the key for inserting big colon tubes. But the other exciting aspect of such large tubes is the visual appeal (or maybe intimidation??).

On another web site I read reports of gigantic colon tubes that were supposedly used for high volume treatments in the early part of the 20th century. These were claimed to be an inch or more in diameter. I'm skeptical, but maybe someone else has read about these colon tubes and knows the details.

I make my colon out of pure gum rubber tubing purchased from a surgical supply store for about i.25 pr ft cut from a roll.The tube is five ft long and 9/16 of an inch in dia.The end is turned outside in using a homemade tool for a nice rounded end that can be snaked up my rear 36 to 40 inches without much effort after a couple of cleanout enemas.

The sensation from the tube deep inside me give an unbelievable feeling when inserted about 40 inches or more during a high volume enema which usually ends with a very intensed orgasm.Let the good times flow to the max,three quarts will do.w/m73yrs/Western Ma

I've got an 48" 48FR tubes from Rojo,

they are a little resilient,

but I were able to fully insert it one or two times.

In general, there are several variables to consider in colon tubes. as diameter increases, flexibility decreases. I've not tried the boiling followed by soaking in mineral oil, however.

A stiff tube increases the risk of puncturing the colon due to there being little sensory feedback as it goes deeper.

Next, colons are extremely variable in their configuration and some are almost impossible to navigate without doing so under direct vision.(procto and sigmoidoscopy and colonoscopy) Even with direct vision, some colonic kinks are almost impossible to navigate.

As most experienced tubers know, the more flexible the tube, the greater the liklihood that it will kink and bend 180 degrees and end up trying to peek out of the anus or will bunch up into a knot.

Vaseline used on the whole length of the tube helps prevent kinking and getting around the tight corners. It's a never ending challenge, but, hey, what have you got better to do with your time?

I have used the factory red colon tubes for many years and found them to be two hard to insert very far without some resistance.The rubber is too hard and should be soaked in hot water to soften them up before use.The red colon tubes do not last very long because the rubber breaks down and cracks in time because there is too much clay in the rubber.

I have very good luck with making my own colon tubes from pure gum rubber tubing you can purchase in any surgical supply store for about 1.25 pr ft.I developed a way to turn the end of the tube outside in to make a very comfortable end that I can snake into my rear 36 to 40 inches without problems.Let the good times FLOW.w/m73yrs?western Ma

Hi Susie and thanks for your thorough response. As I said, if I get one, I wouldn't be looking to go deep, just past the rectum and into the sigmoid area. And I would definitely get a pretty thin, soft tube as well. By the way, what's the farthest you've gotten with your own tube -- into the transverse or more?

You said that resistance is encountered at the innermost part of the rectum. I believe the rectum is about six inches, correct? I recall back when I was a teenager and first inserted something into my rectum that at one point I used a drinking straw. Being an unknowing teen, I inserted it almost to its full length and felt it hit a wall. I probably pushed a little more and when I took it out it had some blood on it. Is it easier to get a soft colon tube past that resistance? Also, what if it turns but goes the wrong way -- not into your sigmoid but pushes up against the closed area?

One more thing. What position(s) do you lay in during the stages of insertion? It kind of seems smart to first go in your rectum on your left side so that when it hits the sigmoid area, gravity might carry it down into it. And I recall Kristina Amelong's site saying something about switching to your back with your butt propped on a pillow.

Dear Unsure,

Get at least a 40 Fr colon tube. The ones they make these days aren't nearly as good as the ones from 10-20 years ago. They are much softer now. Finding a soft colon tube isn't a problem. It is easy to make it into the sigmoid colon. Soft colon tubes easily kink and fold back on themselves. I routinely get heavy, fairly stiff colon tubes 48Fr and larger (up to one inch in diameter) 24-36" inside. It takes practice and knowledge of anatomy--textbook anatomy and your own anatomic variations.

You will probably notice resistance at the end of the rectum going into the sigmoid. You will poke around and the tube won't go any farther, until it just pops through and you'll be there. If the tube folds back and goes the wrong way, and you keep feeding tube inside, the tip will just pop back out your anus. in which case, just pull it all out and start over. Never use anything like a drinking straw--they are sharp and will cut colonic tissue.

I like to do the entire insertion on my back. I can get the tube very far inside. Besides, from the sigmoid colon on to the cecum, the colon is basically against the abdominal wall and in front of all other organs, so being on your back means the other organs will not be pushing against the colon as you try to insert the tube. That's the reason colonoscopies are done with you on your back, with the exception of the initial insertion of 10-12" or so.

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The method I use to insert a colon tube is to be at least partially cleaned out first and be laying on your back--that is the position colonoscopy is performed in once you get to the transverse colon going on to the ascending colon and cecum. Then when inserting the tube, use lots of lubricant so the anus doesn't get sore. Then allow some water to flow in and close the clamp. Now to insert the tube, I like to use the "jerking off your husband" stroking method as the tube is gradually advanced. What I mean is keep the tube moving in and out in two to four (or whatever is best for you) inch strokes and keep advancing the tube. I never found just twisting the tube to be as effective as the "jerking off" method, which is actually more or less what gastroenterologists do when they insert a colonoscope. They inflate the colon with air, we will use the enema water. Periodically, depending on how the tube feels inside you, add more water and close the clamp again and advance the tube more. Keep doing this until all the way in. WARNING: the tube will not go in as far as you think. Unless you have an abnormally tortuous colon or the tube folds over on itself inside you, you won't get in five or six feet of tubing. When the colon is described as 5 to 6 feet long, that is how long it is stretched out on a table, not sitting inside your abdomen. Consider the colon to be like the slinky toy. You can stretch it out far, but when it is at rest, it isn't that long. To demonstrate my point, look at a chart showing how the colon lies inside the abdomen. Then, take a rubber tube and trace that out on your belly. You'll see there is no way you are getting five feet of tube inside you without its kinking and folding. Three feet is about the maximum you will get. DO NOT force it, especially as you get the end of the tube in to the lower right quadrant where the cecum is. If you have a heavy, stiff tube (which is really what I like because it is easier to feel inside you and "massage" to where you want it to go) you can puncture your colon, which will cause a life threatening infection or you can damage the ileocecal valve if you try to force it into the ileum.

I have a #36 I have not been able to get by the corner untill about an hr. ago. Gentle keep pushing and you will feel it turn Man you can really fill. Got mine in about 18 inches. Really good clean out. Filled and expelled several times

I have used a silicone colon tube several times and find it works well for me once i get a little cleaned out i can get most of its 30in lenkth in and can take 3+qts with no cramping just a very full feeling

Just finished 2 2quart enemas for a good clean out. Then used a 36f tube inserted about 20 inches. Lot better fill with the tube. I use it in the shower for a continuous wash out

I've given enemas for years, but have not used a colon tube.

I was thinking of getting Fr.40 which is 0.53". I think that is a nice size and my "patient" can feel it as it enters.

My questions are:

1-Is the open or closed end better?

2-If it is inserted deeply, when the solution has emptied into her, should the tube be clamped and left in while she holds it?

And of course left in while going to the bathroom?

I would insert it after a castille soap enema to cleanse the lower part.

One more thing off topic, has anyone used the inflatable plug-shaped nozzle? It is black, the shape of a large anal plug and it looks like you connect the hose to it.

I'm wondering if these really work. They are pretty affordable compared to Double balloon rectal catheters, usually around $40.

Thanks for the help.

lafla

I just bought a new silicone closed end colon tube. Yes it is WIDE and you definitely feel its presence!

It is my second closed end tube. The other was shoreter (30") 42fr rubber, but it would "kink" and had to be pulled back, let more water flow before being advanced more often than my new silicone one.

As tio the inflatible butt-plug nozzles, apparently there are two sizes, 1.5" amd 2". I bought a 1.5" one, It has a very flimsy "base" and if it is really inflated large (bettr seal), the base is dawn in, which is annoying.

I use it attached to a 15" Rectal tube to aid retention.

I may try the 2" one from someplace like "Twist My Rubber Arm" who also have soem VERY Interesting items in the enema section. They're in Canada.

Ciao,

There is a lot of advice or suggestions about diameter size and tube length. Very little is written about colon tube flexibility. Larger diameter tubes are generally more stiff, and less compliant to curving with your natural folds and flexures. They feel stiff inside of you and will often refuse to enter, causing pain. This is potentially very dangerous. Smaller tubes tend to kink more often, folding back on themselves. Another variable is the age of the rubber and its compound. Some can be very stiff, especially if old. The trick is to figure out what size will work best in YOUR colon, not what works in someone elses. A good place to start is with a 32 fr, 30 inch tube. If it tends to double back, then increase to a 36 fr and try again. Also, compare the flexibility of the tubes. It is possible to get a 36fr tube that is actually softer than a 32 fr. due to wall thickness and age of the rubber or its compounds. I probably went through ten different colon tubes before finding a well working 36 fr tube that worked as much as 60 or 70 percent of the time. It is imperative to take time, relax, and use great care with the insertion, after taking one or two clearing enemas first. It has always been a minimum of a half day affair for me.

I have unlocked a secret inner world with tubes i can easily slip them all the way to the cecum sometimes i can open the check valve and slip into the small bowel but be warned the effect is very powerful and long lasting i have perfected many tummy ticklers for small tubes silicone is way to soft urethane in 1/4 or 5/16 is better and won,t kink but the better tubes are 1/2 to 3/4 soft but thickwalled non kinking on the end i build a vibrating bullet or egg thats bonded to the end the tubes are used after being cleaned out i like a bit of j lube inserted it is water based and very slippery, since the end of the tube vibrates it is easy to locate the hardest part is the s bend but pushing on the tummy bends it right around it slips in easily till the top of the decending there i take a deep breath pushing the diaphram and colon down there it makes the 90 degree bend and heads across the transverse all the way to the end of the colon by your right hip its pretty amazing

Is the tube a better way to clean out or is it a more erotic process? Where should I get one from?

My partner and I have invested in 3 colon tubes in varying lengths, thickness and end types (the open ended seems best). We've played in my partner quite successfully on many occasions, however when it's my turn we can't seem to get pass the inner valve or muscle. Tried all positions but no luck - it just causes pain. We've tried coinciding insertion with a rush of soapy water - but any other suggestions?

This is terrific help. I've been curious about colon tubes for a long time but was afraid to try to use one without some expert guidance. Didn't want to do damage. This thread is a big help. Thank you all for the info. Now I just need to figure out where to get a tube........Thanks.

Here's one place to get a colon tube, and lots of other stuff -- http://www.klystra.com/enemaproducts.htm?gclid=COftrMiE2JoCFQKHxwod0HGVGg

Here's another -- http://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/LatexFree-Silicone-Colon-Tubes-For-Home-Enema-Kits-p/0HColonTubes.htm

They have the 30" 32Fr silicone tube on sale at 10% off.

I've tried most of them. The silicone FR32 is definitely the best. It is soft and flexible, yet it's not so flexible that it turns back on itself. As others have stated, it will last a long time, even if you use petroleum based lubricants like Vaseline.