Medical students

I haven't ever had the chance to have a student watch an exam I was being given, let alone practicing on me. I would definitely be up for both, though!

One time, I had a dental student working on my crown, and she didn't take a mold of my tooth before it got all filed down. I didn't know any better as it was my first (and only) crown, but I was pretty pissed about that once I figured out what was going on. The crown ended up not fitting properly, and food can get caught under it. 😢

Shotgirl, I don't know how long ago your crown was made but if it were me I would have contacted the attending dentist or training supervisor immediately and told them of the problem.

I am very happy to be examined by Students as I have previously posted twice on here before.

So long as the Student isn't actually wielding the Scalpel or administering the sedative, what would you find a problem with?.

I have recently completed Nuro Physiotherapy as I have Diabetic Nuropathy (Loss of feeling, weakness and sensation) down my right side.

A Young Male Student was helping me throughout my assessment whilst he was being assessed by the Lady Physiotherapist.

I am proud that I was the last person he worked with before he sat his final qualifying Exams and I hope he has passed to become Qualified.

We all have had to learn our chosen career and regardless of what we do, we continue to learn.

To get "Hands on" experience, despite what the boffins say, cannot be gained from Google or some App.

You need to get out there and see things in reality, not virtual reality!.

I'd rather it just be me and my gynecologist without the nurse in the room, no med students or nurses allowed lol

I have been a "standardized patient" at a local university medical school. And been examined or interviewed by medical students for several years. Sometimes a few students are shown how to conduct an examination by a MD faculty member -learning to listen to the heart, the lungs, etc. During these I learned the difference between a great diagnostican and poor (hack) doctor. And yes, there were genital and rectal exams. For these, the students were really scared. The other role involved me being scripted and with no physical contact from the student. The student was being trained to ask open-ended questions to gather information. My most embarrassing times sessions were during the scripted times. In once script the student was required to take a medical history and I was a grumpy old man with a drinking problem. Midway in the session the instructor stopped the student and said "ok, you know the guy is drunk, has personal relation problems, and before you complete a "review of his systems" you might ask about his sex life". The student conducting the interview turned white and said: "I will not ask the man about his sex life". At which time several of the observing students suggested a series of pointed questions. And all I could do was sit still and not say a word!

Ask an alcoholic about his sex life?

Why? For what purpose? Yes inquiring about sex is part of the review of systems. It's just a very minor part. I'd spend the time asking about his drinking habits, whether he combines drinking and drugs, when his last drink was and so on. Good to know about sex but it would be last on my list.

I have been examined by medical students on many occasions throughout my life as most of the hospitals and clinics I have been in were connected to universities and madical schools. At times the student came in first to do the H &P alone, but then the instructing physician, his mentor, always came in ane went over the info he had gathered then conducted his own exam and made corrections as needed along with explanation to the student if what the professor found was different from student's conclusions. I have never refused student observation or examination, whether individual or in groups. I rather enjoy the "hands-on" and besides, I am a nurse who also, many moons ago, was a student herself with lots to learn and lots of experience to gain at bedside. Thee weret hose dear patients who suffered thru so many "first times" for us nursing students, eg, injections, occupied bed baths and linen changes, catheterizations, enemas, lab draws, etc. etc., ad infinitum. And some of us were quite awful on the first 10 tries!! So, I am truly grateful to all those patients who were patient with me while I was learning and gaining experience.

Well I am just a nurse here but I would think it would depend greatly on what the patient was there for. Asking an alcoholic about his sex life would be important if he was complaining of ED issues for example, or if he was at an age for STD's. God knows alcoholic's are not always um shall we say picky with whom they have sex with if they are impaired at the time the sexual event is happening, nor do they always remember that safe sex is important.

So depending on what the patient is there for it would be reasonable for a doctor to ask questions along those lines, I would think. Again, I'm a nurse, not a doctor. If I'm wrong please take the opportunity to teach me why I am so I can learn from it. And I'm am very serious about that, I am not being snarky. I try to be the best nurse I can be and take every opportunity I can to learn as much as I can when I can from people much smarter or more knowledgeable than myself.

Thanks in advance.

Mashie

The two questions medical students were coached to ask were 1) Are you sexually active, and 2) Do you use protection. The questions were strange when the character I'm playing is a married man complaining of unstable angina. I understand the relationship between erectile dysfunction and cardiovascular disease, but at that point in their training, they were just parroting the standard questions without comprehension.

I would not mind if I was examined by med students they would have quite an experience with me. I have a few medical issues that they might learn from.

Only for practice giving injections on my butt cheeks would I want to volunteer tobe the pin cushion. Haha

If she was a cute girl then yes I would love her to watch and examine me. I would like her to watch as the doctor is peeking in my underwear. The I would like the young med student to take a good long peek of my penis and testicles. I would love her to finger my bum too. I really hope a young female med student would watch as a female doctor gives me a very through pshyical and has me naked. It would be nice if a young female student were present when I was getting gassed or put to sleep at the dentist or hospital. And she held my hand and helped me to relax or hold the mask tightly over my mouth and nose.

A student got a frontal view of a doctor stething me once and that was a huge turn on. I'd left my shirt and bra on and was helpless tobdo anything while it crept up as the doctor worked around the back (I'm trans and and still have breasts).

A few weeks ago I had to go back for what basically turned out to be a sexual health checkup after some concerns over routine blood tests. The results were put down to medication in the end, but not before a very thorough sexual history and swabs were taken. The young female student who was observing looked really embarrassed by my answers and apologised for what she was having to do as she swabbed my anus. She was much more embarrassed than me, which was fun.

How do you know the students are not watching your procedure when your put to sleep. Who really is going to tell you. How do you know the Doctor is actually performing the procedure.

Students do not perform surgery. They do watch it. House staff, that is interns and residents, do operate or assist. How else would one learn ? It's always done under the watchful eye of the attending. Surgery is always watched by a number of staff--nurses,techs and of course by the first and sometimes second assisting surgeon as well as the anesthesiologist. The nurses consider the OR their own personal fiefdom. To think that any impropriety is happening is just paranoid delusions again.

Great in a fantasy - hell no in real life. I would be beyond pissed if my doctor came in with a crowd.

I think it's more embarrassing to think about than anything. I'm all about people learning, so I would probably agree to it- but it would not be a turn on for me in real life. Play life....that's a different story!

Remember if you were in a teaching hospital you wouldn't have a choice about whether students came in or not.

The first time I went in for skin cancer it was at a large university hospital, my spot was so textbook the doctor asked if they could bring the class in to observe. I said it was fine with me. So theybwere all there for the exam and I think they stayed for the surgery.

I recently had some abdominal surgery. Now as in then the last thought on my mind was feeling overly concerned with the involvement of a medical student or two. It was all about my interactions with the surgeon, the anesthesiologist and the nurses involved. I was heavily sedated at the time so I was not in a proper state of mind. I remember nothing about the procedure so I could notcare less about who may have been observing.

Had it happen about a year ago. The PA came in had a young male student with her and introduced him and asked if it would be ok for him to observe. Was really just a follow up so just some questions and listening to heart and lungs and looking in ears. Wasn't much to learn since I figured he already knew how to do that.

I remember my wife telling in the late 1990s when she went to the practice nurse for her smear test that a female medical student was present. At that practice there was no set day for smear appointments but the nurse knew before hand what each patient was coming for. The nurse explained who the student was and asked my wife's permission for her to be present which she said was OK.The nurse did all the sample taking etc but took her time explaining what she was doing as she went.

in a previous post I mentioned that my wife had a colposcopy exam a few years back. While I was sitting in the waiting room at the clinic a female doctor appeared with a young man dressed in a shirt and tie. The doctor mentioned a name and a woman who I would say was in her early fifties stood up and approached them.the doctor who standing between the waiting area and the corridor which I presumed led down to the exam rooms introduced herself and then the young man as a medical student.The doctor asked the woman if she was happy to have him present at her consultation.Ii could see that the woman was uneasy about it but said something and all three disapeared down the corridor.

I live in an area where we have a few medical schools and almost all of the hospitals are associated with one or more of them. The doctor will often ask if I mind if a med student watches or checks me out first. Even if it's embarrassing, I never say no; I figure they have to get experience somehow and maybe it'll benefit me in the future.

@liquidsky: "Remember if you were in a teaching hospital you wouldn't have a choice about whether students came in or not."

That's not at all the case in the US. You always have the choice of whether or not to have a med student/resident/fellow in with the doctor.

Seems like only so much practice can be done on fellow med students. Eventually, there is the need for a real patient with potentially some real problems. Being naked in front of the doctor isn't an issue. And, in locker rooms, it really doesn't matter who sees each other naked. Maybe this scenario is a little different because only one of a few people is naked. I think I have a question to pose to the group based on that thought....I'll make a new post as to not interfere with the flow of this post. Great question, by the way!

Standardized patients are how many med schools teach real exam procedures. We are never nude. The exams are performed just like they will be in real life. Only the portion of the body being examined is exposed and only for a minimal amount of time.

It is not the case that you have a choice about who sees you in a teaching hospital. The residents and interns ARE the ward team. The attending only comes for rounds once a day.

As a medical sales rep. I was encouraged to ask gastro's if I could monitor their procedures, as a teaching tool to further my knowledge. Some gastros. would say no, flat out, but many said it was OK with them, as long as the patients didn't object. I was always in a suit and tie and before any procedure the gastro. would introduce me to each patient and ask them if they objected to my being present. No one ever objected. I got to observe about 50 colonoscopies and about 25 upper GI endoscopies. I never saw any bare behinds, as they were covered with a drape, while the gastro. would insert the scope under the drape, so all I saw was the insides of the colon on a TV screen. The GI would usually give an ongoing commentary on what he was seeing, while I sat on a stool out of his way. It was very instructive for me and when it came time for these procedures to be done on me, I had a better understanding of what was happening and had learned to spot polyps, diverticula, etc. I found it to be a great learning experience; nothing erotic.

They have to learn sometime, so I always allow it, but...I expect my doctor to double check what they did.

I see a dermatologist for an annual skin exam. He always has a resident do the exam first and ask if I have any questions, then he comes in and does the exam again.

This year it was a different doctor and he too had a resident do the exam, then he came in the room, but he didn't do the exam himself. That I object to.

I also object to drug reps being present and using me as fodder for a sales pitch to the doctor after I leave.

But otherwise, yes, I'm always open to allowing students to watch or perform exams, even blood draws, as I have good veins.

I have no problem, as long as it is a male (comfort zone thing). I also would not object to the student practicing on me.