Colon Tube Insertion

Tube entry from the rear for me is the best - Especially if I'm onall 4's with butt high in the air

When I take my enemas in a standing position insert the tube from the back and when I lie down insert from the front.

I don't really use long tubes. Tried it once. The tube just looped back around and the end came out. When I pulled the rest of it out there was some blood on it. Never tried it again.

Flr a 4-qt enema, I use a "Barium nozzle" Which is basically a c1900 douche nozzle with the tip cut off. It's 5 inches long, and, in Sim's position I HAVE TO point it toward the navel to get it all the way in.

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I don't really use long tubes. Tried it once. The tube just looped back around and the end came out. When I pulled the rest of it out there was some blood on it. . . . .

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That's why I like fatter stiffer tubes.

They tend to stay straight, not kink or turn around inside yourself. You just feel where the end is and massage it around the colon as you push it in.

I always insert the tube when I am reclined on my back, that way I can watch it go in and see how deeply it is inserted. Try for a thick tube. I got the thickest tube I could find.

I like to be on my back with the tube in front so I have better control of the clamp so I can slow it down or speed it up whenever I get the urge to do so.

Havering her lie on her side watching the bag empty in her and letting her know its all inside her

A simple 1.5L H2O cleanse with a plastic nozzle, it's from the back in Sim's. A larger amount or something with soap or another additive, I'll insert a colon tube from the front so I can reposition easily and can slowly advance the tube right behind the leading edge of the fluid flow. Usually get it all the way in before I've injected much more than a pint, particularly with soap.

My cut on tubes and tube-lube:

I usually use a 36 or 38 (closed end) and find those never fold over. They are easy to advance through the sigmoid yet are flexible enough to round corners without getting caught in a nook or cranny. Leave the 32's and 28's to the kids.

Tube Lube -- for soap solution, it's a heavy coating of soft Ivory Soap. For the later events, Slippery Stuff (gel) or Astro-Natural.

Tip for colon tube nubes -- if the solution is not 'slippery', try filling the colon tube with lube so that the first few ounces of fluid will be pushing lube out to pave the way for the tube. Once you're beyond the sigmoid sphincter (about 8-10" in) it will be clear sailing.

enjoy

Thanks for the tip on preoiling the tube--what type of oil do you recommend?

Thanks for the tip on preoiling the tube--what type of oil do you recommend?

I'm not into oil enemas anymore. However if I still were, it would be Olive Oil. But for the first two enemas in a series I pre-load the colon tube with either semi-liquid soap (Ivory softened to in a cup of water) or a water based lube. With the filled bag, hose, pump, etc. hanging by my bed, I'm in the bathroom with the tube and lubes.

The colon-tube has an adapter and short piece of hose on it with a clamp. (I have clamps everywhere)

I grease the tip back to about 5" with Crisco. Then, using a lube shooter, I fill the tube with softened soap or a water based lube. Your preference but, with a glycerin sensitivity, mine is something like slippery stuff or Astro-Natural. When the tube is filled and the air bubbles are out, I close the clamp trapping the lube inside the tube. Note, this isn't cheap for water based lube -- it takes a good quantity of lube to fill an entire colon tube. However, if you are using a smaller tube where clearning air bubbles is an issue, dilute the water based lube a bit speed up this process.

I finger lube my anus and insert about 5-6" of tube while in the bathroom, usually donning a sport brief to keep things in place. I'll usually carry along a miniture mp3 player and ear buds. Then, it's off to the bed. Once horizontal, I connect the flow indicator to the short stub of clamped hose on the tube. I position, posture, & slide in the tube a bit util I feel it well up in the rectum but not bent. Then open all the clamps and away we go. The first two squeezes of the bulb will deliver fluid, "highly enriched" with lube. This makes for an easy insertion with no "hang-ups."

Most of the time I fail when trying to insert the 30 inch colon tube by myself. However what DOES work for me is to first put several ounces of vegetable oil in the bag (enough to fill the hose and the tube), fill the bag, lube up the rectum and the outside of the tube with KY and lotion, get in the knee chest position and have my better half insert it after starting the flow :-)

I have taken enemas in all positions and enjoy them all. I have never used a colon tube, only a stadard nozzle. What is good about a colon tube?

I like the idea of pre-oiling the tube. I have yet to get satisfactory results as the tube seems to fold over on itself and kink stopping the flow. Maybe my tube is too small as well I use 18 fr.

Colon tubes (and even rectal tubes) can help you a lot with handling cramps/urge to expel as a tube inserted higher into the colon which means that water flow does not cause anything to the sensors in the rectum.

I have found that I personally can not get any volume from an enema can/syringe when use the plain enema nozzles. I have learnt that I have to insert a tube until the Sigmoid colon and with that in place I can receive any quantity up to my colon's capacity.

Naturally it is a bit more complicated to use such tubes and the insertion is more work but it delfinitely makes worth to go for them.

The lubrication should be thoroughly done -- I use olive oil injected into the rectum (15-20 ccm minimum) in advance and apply K-Y on the tube itself.

You should be careful when inserting them but this can be learnt and you will find the result enyjoable...

Colon tube is a great. But not so easy as want. Very careful must to do this practice. I began from position on left side the turn on the bag. Use a many of lube and do not hurry. And you get incredible pleasant feeling...

First time I got a colon tube was when I was 13 and staying with my grandmother. She used a red open top bag for most enemas but every once and a while she would use a white can that was fitted with an 18" colon tube. I was laying on my back legs up and she started to put the well lubed colon tube in I was shocked that it all went in and when the water started to flow what a feeling. Got a rageing hard on and shot a load while getting that one

I can take about six inches of tubing when doing solo, but one of my therapists can double that by putting me inthe Sims position and injecting a cup or so of soap solution at a time to clear a passage and get beyond the nerve sensitive rectal area. Very different experience than the short enema nozzle.

I find good results on the back with hips slightly elevated yields the most water taken in with the least cramps or stress.

Begin on right side. If there is discomfort, roll onto back, pause the flow, massage the tummy until the cramps ease. Much easier to finish a 4 qt. fill this way for me.

My wife use to put me on my back and have me hold my legs up to my chest and slide the dildo nozzle into me and watch me get hard and release the warm soapy water. I would than have to masterbates and cum before she would stop the water from a 4 quart bag. sometimes she did get the whole 4 quarts in and it hurt but was exciting. It is strang how pain and excitement comes together.

I like to lay on my back with my knees slightly bent and up in the air. I like using longer nozzles but haven't tried a colon tube yet. I have found that i can actually hold the most water in the KC position though, but I have a hard time holding the nozzle in and adjusting the flow.

To 'imac' # 48,

Many thanks for the most helpful tips for inserting a colon tube that I have found here on the site. I have been experimenting for 2 years to get the colon tube past my sigmoid bend without success until a recent success. The tube was alwasy folding back on itself and even comming back out of my anus. this was with a small diameter closed end tube. then I got a 36 Fr tube from Optimal Health and things started to work for me. The main problem was how to get some lube where it would do the most good at the first bend. I will try your suggestions and report back on how it worked for me. I have found that after about 15 inches, there is a lot of resistance. Is this normal? I will not try to force it! However, I do like the free flowing of the enema solution after the colon tube is in at least 12 to 14 inches, without the rectum trying to release the enema solution. I like to try for a 4 qt fill, but not always that much. Maybe I'll try to take a photo series of a colon tube insertion following your suggestions, and then to post it here with an acknowledgement to your suggestions.

On the back, legs raised, just like mom and grandma used to do. Giving or receiving that's the way it is.

I really like it on any position I can remember of. But my favorite is for sure the doggie style (knee chest). I think I like it most because it remembers me mommy enema and it's a more submissive position.

When using a colon tube, I'm usually on my back and advance the tube from the front.

What size of colon tube should I buy for a beginner? Should it be used for the initial soap enema or for the 2nd or 3rd rinse? How long should the rinse enmas be held? I have used enemas since age 5.

Mr lee said:

What size of colon tube should I buy for a beginner? Should it be used for the initial soap enema or for the 2nd or 3rd rinse? How long should the rinse enmas be held? I have used enemas since age 5.

For a beginner, I would recommend about a 40Fr colon tube. When you are more experienced, you can use larger sizes.

the 40 Fr tube is stiff enough to be inserted easily and not fold or kink back on itself, yet flexible enough to get around the bends.

Beginners should especially be given a preliminary enema to void any solid feces and open up the colon prior to inserting a colon tube.

You can use soap initially if you like, but it isn't necessary. Retention is not necessary either. Just get the enema in, massage it around and expel it. You can then take your colon tube and insert it. It will take practice and learning your own internal anatomy before you can insert it very far. And don't think your colon anatomy will match up with what the textbooks describe. Everyone is a little different and some people are VERY different from what text books describe. Don't force the tube.

Depending on the characteristics of the tube (diameter, stiffness) and your ability to know anatomically where it is in your colon and your skill in manipulating it, you could get more than 30 inches, but probably far less than five feet in unless the tube in kinked or folded--and most people don't realize when their tube is kinked or folded inside themselves. Be careful. Read posts on colon tube techniques. Here's what I do:

The method I use to insert the colon tube is to be at least partially cleaned out first and be laying on your back--that is the position colonoscopy is performed in once you get to the transverse colon going on to the ascending colon and cecum. The reason to be on your back, and take a lesson from gastroenterologists here, is because on your back, your colon is on top of all your other abdominal organs. In the knee chest position, all your abdominal organs "fall" onto the colon inside yourself, and the weight of those organs can prevent easy passage of the tube deeper in the colon.

Then when inserting the tube, use lots of lubricant so the anus doesn't get sore. Then allow some water to flow in and close the clamp. Now to insert the tube, I like to use the "jerking off my husband" stroking method as the tube is gradually advanced. What I mean is keep the tube moving in and out in two to four (or whatever is best for you) inch strokes and keep advancing the tube. I never found just twisting the tube to be as effective as the "jerking off" method, which is actually more or less what gastroenterologists do when they insert a colonoscope. They inflate the colon with air, we will use the enema water. If you aren't very overweight, you can feel where the end of the tube is. You can use one hand to insert the tube and your other hand to massage it around the curves.

Periodically, depending on how the tube feels inside you, add more water and close the clamp again and advance the tube more. Keep doing this until all the way in. WARNING: the tube will not go in as far as you think. Unless you have an abnormally tortuous colon or the tube folds over on itself inside you, you won't get in five or six feet of tubing. When the colon is described as 5 to 6 feet long, that is how long it is stretched out on a table, not sitting inside your abdomen.

Consider the colon to be like the slinky toy. You can stretch it out far, but when it is at rest, it isn't that long. To demonstrate my point, look at a chart showing how the colon lies inside the abdomen. Then, take a rubber tube and trace that out on your belly. You'll see there is no way you are getting five feet of tube inside you without its kinking and folding. Three feet is about the maximum you will get. DO NOT force it, especially as you get the end of the tube in to the lower right quadrant where the cecum is.

If you have a heavy, stiff tube (which is really what I like because it is easier to feel inside you and "massage" to where you want it to go) you can puncture your colon, which will cause a life threatening infection or you can damage the ileocecal valve if you try to force it into the ileum.

The positions for a enema are very important, because the results are better than other positions. The usual one is the Simm's position or on the knees. Of course in this case the pleasure is important. For me, I prefer the Simm's position, it reminds me of childhood although I remember my grandmother put me on her legs and lying the face down when I was young, about 4 years old.

I have to agree with Susie.(post#65) I use a piece of Red air hose that is 1/2" dia. with 1/4" hole & rounded on the end. Its flexible enough to bend with out folding over or kinking. using the jerking off method and being patient I have no problem getting the tube up to 36" in me. then as I finish filling or after I've filled, it is easy to slide the tube in and out several inches or more. most of the time I'll fill with 2 1/2qts then lower the bag allowing some of the enema to return to the bag then add 1/2qt or more to the bag and relax and take it all in

I have enjoyed enemas with catheter; my favorite is 20", 36 FR red rubber. (Same size used in hospitals during the "golden age".)

Merely ease it in slowly while flowing the warm, soapy water in, stopping frequently to fill more expanding the colon. This will prevent the catheter from coiling up inside the rectum or in a higher up 'pocket'.

As always, be careful and "listen" to your body.

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