Refusal to undress for a doctor

Hehehe yeah, Suzie, I think she likes me.

Susie I can't help it. We have had to watch everything we said and did and Doc had to be incognito for over 5 years. Now we are out and we are free. We can't help but be elated over that. I will try my best to curb my enthusiasm for my hot studly hunk of man meat, but I won't make any promises. Hehehe

Liquid, yes, doctors have lost their license for A LOT less than that, nurses too. Example, I had a co-worker once who lost her nursing license. The patients daughter brought in mini candy bars and put them in a bowl for her mother who was the patient. The patient then offered that nurse a candy bar when she came in to give her her meds. A few days later the daughter was in the room when that nurse came to give her her meds. The nurse made a comment to both of them, she said thanks for the candy bar and that it was so nice of them to share. A few days later that nurse was fired. Eventually she lost her nursing license because the patient had Alzheimers and according to the daughter the mother wasn't in her right mind enough to give her that candy bar. She lost her license because the Ohio board of Nursing charged her with theft of a patient. The patient even told the daughter and the DON of the facility that she had given it to her because she was her favorite nurse. Now, if a nurse can lose her license because she took a candy bar that was given to her, then yes, a doctor could and would lose his license for anything and everything above that.

Now as a side note, the Ohio Board of Nursing is the most strict nursing board in the entire United States. That is a fact that is well known and very well documented. But that is also why Ohio has some of the best nurses in the country and why in Ohio our LPN license is equal to that of most all other states 2 year RN license. Also why an Ohio nursing license is accepted in all 50 states and territories. All we have to do is ask for a license in the state that we want to work in. Ohio for example doesn't just give nurses from other states a license to practice in this state, most of the time they require applicants to take the NCLEX.

Mashie

You are lucky you are not in the UK Big.

They have a zero tolerance policy . The policy is rolled out across all Walk in Centres, GP Surgeries , Accident & Emergency and hospital wards.

You don't co-operate and are rude or aggressive to literally any worker in that building , even the cleaner, you don't get treated . It's as simple as that . They get the heavy guys in and you are escorted off the premises. You continue or come back for more , the Police are automatically called .

Best policy ever if you ask me !

Mashie, in New York, we are allowed to accept gifts that are the value of literally, a cup of coffee. Maybe a candy bar costs the same. It's sad what is going on.

Susie, yes it is horrible. You know most of the time we can take things like that as long as they are not of any value really. The daughter must have pushed the issue and pushed it hard. I agree, stealing from a patient is so wrong and actually hurts me and makes me sad to think that anyone would ever do that. But it does happen.

Mashie

Dear Mashie,

If I am paying for a service, I am the client, the Dr. is the Vendor. I will not be bullied, or coerced into treatment I do not need. The Dr. got pissed off because he wanted to bill for an unnecessary list of items for which he could not bill!! I stood my ground. At 53, with limited or no involvement with yearly physicals and scare tactics to make people in the US medical dependent, by scaring them into walking into a Dr's. office needlessly other than to ramp up revenue. So I whole heartedly disagree with you! Also I did not need to raise my voice, or lose my temper, just state clearly and articulately what I needed, and avoid what he felt needed. The Dr. I see now also agrees with my attitude towards my own medical welfare and wellbeing, let’s stick to what I need, and how I want to be treated, so far it’s working beautifully.

BEG

All my physicals at the Dr I am aloud to keep my bra and panties on under the johnny they give you, because my Dr likes me to feel relaxed during the physical, if during the physical I have to take my panties or bra I just take them off. My Dr thinks a lot about my modesty when he is doing my physical which I do appreciate. 😃

In my early teens I refused the doctor's rhetorical question, "How about a shot?" because I knew it meant pulling everything down and bending over his receptionist's lap to get it. The dread scenario was even worse on that occasion because his beautiful teenaged daughter was acting receptionist during the school holidays. I desperately craved her respect and didn't want her even to know that I got injections in my bottom (which I deemed childish), much less suffer the almost inconceivable humiliation of going across her lap for her actually to watch me get one back there.

Yes, i had a skin problem some years ago and a doctor asked me to strip. i said nothing but left my underwear on. i think it was just for shyness

I would like to point out that Big Easy is not necessarily wrong. In the US (and sometimes in Canada) some doctors have a propensity for racking up medical charges and poorly informing patients about their choices for examination and treatment. I don't know if he was in the right in this particular case, but it absolutely pays to be cautious and not to blindly trust the doctor. I've avoided $15k in unnecessary surgery in NYC 5 years ago and no, the local medical authorities were not interested in disciplining the doctor either.

For play exams, though, I think some resistance or reluctance to disrobe as instructed is a great way to start -- forcing the doc to do some work to get the patient to the level of undress that's necessary. The patient may need to be corrected and shown who is in charge of the situation.

I agree. I've never refused to take anything off during a real exam, either as an adult or as a child, I've always done as they asked. But in a play exam, it shows who's in charge. In my play exams with my partner I'll be asked to start undressing and strip down to my boxers, but then be asked to take them off before being weighed "You need to take those off as well," she 'll say. "Are you sure?" I'll protest?", replying with a pretend nervousness. "I won't be able to get an accurate weight if you're still dresssed. I won't be seeing anything I haven't seen before!", she'll say with a knowing smile, and I'll then pretend reluctantly to take them off and be standing there naked.

I have reported this incident in a thread about school medicals. I will summarise it here. I guess it illustrates what can happen when fear makes logical thought 'fly out of the window'.

When I was 11 (1964) I was in my first year at an incredibly strict grammar school. So many rules, all rigorously enforced by nasty schoolmasters who we were pretty scared of. Even more terrifying was the fearsome headmaster who did not hesitate to deploy the cane whenever necessary.

There was a school rule pertaining to not being allowed to remove your school blazer without the headmaster's express permission. During a sweltering summer's day, one of the boys in my class decided that it was a stupid rule and took off his blazer during playtime (recess). He was seen by a prefect and told that he would be reported to the headmaster.

That afternoon, he turned up during our form tutor time. To say that he was extremely displeased was an understatement. He was a very intimidating man. The whole class (standing apprehensively) knew that this was not good news. He launched into a general lecture / tirade about rules / insubordination etc., etc (He had a booming stentorian voice - not unlike the famous actor Brian Blessed).

He then called out the boy who had dared to remove his blazer to the front of the class, informing him that he could now remove his blazer as he was going to receive 6 of the best. It was pretty horrible. Before the caning, the HM tore into him verbally about how dare he defy clear instructions / his authority etc., etc. Canings were usually carried out in his study, in private. Clearly, he was making a point in the most emphatic way. I felt sorry for my classmate as the HM delivered 6 very hard strokes across his backside. He was crying as he walked slowly and stiffly back to his place.

The following morning, during assembly, the HM lectured the whole school about general behaviour. He returned to his theme about non - removal of school blazers without his personal position. Any offenders, he declaimed, could expect a very severe caning.

That same day, I was due to have a school medical. I always got slightly nervous about them as it was. The system was that a prefect collected you from whichever lesson you were in and took you down to the 'medical room'(actually the deputy head's temporarily converted study. You then sat outside on a chair in the corridor until you were called in.

Of course, I knew the routine,but my stomach was churning when the school nurse brusquely told me to undress and put my clothes on a chair in the room. My school blazer!!! What was I to do? The HM's words rang in my mind as did visions of the boy being painfully caned. By the time the nurse returned I had only taken off my tie and my shoes. She was extremely annoyed, telling me to hurry up as I must not keep the doctor, who was a busy man, waiting.

I dithered, I was in a quandary. I did not want to get into trouble for disobeying the nurse, but I didn't want to get caned either. The nurse returned. I had taken off my socks and short school trousers. She was very angry and told me to get the rest of my clothes off quickly. In a croaky, nervous whisper I said that no, I couldn't.

She stormed off to get the doctor. Luckily, he was quite calm. I was shaking and on the verge of tears. If he thought it was funny he did not show it as I blurted out that I didn't want to be caned for taking off my school blazer without permission. He was certainly bemused, but he could tell that my distress was very real.

Of course, he quickly reassured me that the HM's rule did not apply in a medical examination situation and that I would not get into any kind of trouble at all. He just told me to calm down, everything was fine and to undress quickly, so that the nurse could do her checks etc and so that he could examine me. Bizarrely, it was then a great relief to strip off.

Looking back on it years later, I felt embarrassed by my total and utter stupidity. I discussed it with my wife once. She was not totally unsympathetic, commenting that it was typical of ridiculous irrational things like that happening when young boys were terrorised.

I've gotten away with it where they just kind of moved my clothing we'll see what they wanted them and I've gotten stripped too

Why would you bather going to a doctor if you won't undress for an exam?

My girlfriend went to the dr as she had a flu symtoms. Once in the exam room she said that she had a sore throat and that she was feverish the dr then proceeded to tell her to go into the exam room and remove all her cloathes she refused and said that is flu why does she need to undress in conversation he asked her alot about her sexual history which she also refused to answer as it had nothing to do with why she was at the dr. She never went back to that dr.

Long time ago, I went to an allergist for allergy testing. A friend had been to the same doctor and warned me that she would do a physical, too. I thought “not bloody likely”. Sure enough, she wanted to do one but I flatly refused. I had a really bad cough and she talked me into letting her listen to my lungs. She said I had pneumonia so she wouldn't do the allergy testing that day. When I went back for the allergy testing some time later, she didn't try to do a physical.

Long time ago, I went to an allergist for allergy testing. A friend had been to the same doctor and warned me that she would do a physical, too. I thought “not bloody likely”. Sure enough, she wanted to do one but I flatly refused.

Wouldn't it have been standard to look for rashes, red spots/areas on the skin or other visual signs of allergies? If you come complaining of allergies, heavens knows the many unappetizing ways they may appear on a person's body.

It doesn't seem excessive for a doctor to wish taking a look.

I guess none of you here were in the Army! I could not understand when they said “bend over and spread your cheeks”. I said how will you be able to see my teeth??

Still a “Private”

Wouldn't it have been standard to look for rashes, red spots/areas on the skin or other visual signs of allergies? If you come complaining of allergies, heavens knows the many unappetizing ways they may appear on a person's body.

It doesn't seem excessive for a doctor to wish taking a look.

My GP would have done that before making the referral had it been necessary.

Patients have the right to refuse any treatment or test, including physicals or exposing themselves. Not always the smart thing to do, but it’s your right. If I had seasonal allergies I wouldn’t expect or see the need for a skin exam unless I was experiencing itching or a rash. I would question why and then decide to comply or not.