Refusal to undress for a doctor

There was once when i had my butt injections, the doctor ask me to remove my whole dress to lie on the bed.. reason being, the injection is big and painful.

i refuse to remove, thinking it's unnecessary and insisted to have the jab sitting down.. well, it hurts much.

but i still think undressing in front of the doctor is embarassing..

I have never refused to undress in front of the doctor or nurse. Sometimes I undressed me more than I was asked. The examination or treatment is the doctor's / nurse's work, so I want they can do their work under the best conditions.

Remember, it is more comfortable for the doctor same as for the patient, when the examined body part is fully accessible, than when a piece of clothes is in the way.

@Ranger61: That is a very funny story! Though not so funny for you maybe... 😃

Most of my exams do not involve getting undressed for the doctor. The doctor will work around the clothes I have on. My last exam (gyn) was interesting though. I tried to get out of removing my bra and tried to get out of the breast exam but no dice. The nurse actually had to tell me "dont run away now". I'm like easy for you to say, you're not fully exposed.

I was working with families in Germany. Our women went to local doctors for care beyond what our clinic could provide, such as prenatal care.

The routine was for the patient to be ushered into an exam room, expected to take off all her clothes, and wait for the doctor. I would sometimes accompany the doctor to translate. "No" was not an acceptable answer to the German Herr Doctor! It made for some interesting afternoons.

I never refused at the Doctor's, but I do remember as a child insisting I was fine to my parent's so I would not have to go. As puberty hi, I was more fearful of being naked than injections.

Once, a long time ago, back in the 1970's, I was scheduled for a small operation on an infected ingrown toenail. An inconsequential part of the anatomy if ever there was one, except when it gets infected.

Before the operation I was given a short operation gown by a nurse and told to undress completely and then put on the gown.

I was still young and innocent and fairly ignorant at the time, and questioned the reason for having to undress completely for a small operation on a toe. I thought the procedure could just as easily be done by removing my shoes and socks.

Somewhat grudgingly, the (lovely and friendly) nurse conceded to my reasoning and it was enough that I removed my shoes, socks and trousers, putting the gown on over what was left. In retrospect I must have looked ridiculous laying on the operating table dressed like that, especially when the surgeon came in with a gaggle of students in tow.

And now, many years and a full blown fetish later, I deeply regret not having done as the nurse asked me, and undressed completely while she (and my wife) watched. It would have been a very nice memory to cherish.

As for afterwards, I've never refused undressing and in all honesty, I sometimes feel like admonishing doctors nowadays for not having their patients undress more. When i go to the doctor for a winter ailment like a flu or whatever, more often than not, he will listen to heart and lungs by having us lift up a shirt or sweater, so undoubtedly saving him much time.

I understand the economic imperative of saving time, but I often wonder at the wisdom of at keeping patients dressed to an ever greater degree. Is this not pandering to prudery and encouraging notions of unnecessary modesty?

I grew up swimming nude at the local YMCA. Surely undressing for a physician is not a big deal.

I usually don't like to undress to the doctor, but if if strictly necessary i just do it.

I would never refuse, but more of the opposite: take more off!

I once went to a new doctor who was a replacement of my other dr who left the clinic.. That was a sad day for me when he left 😢 Dr. C0_ _ _ly where are u?? . Anyway but the new doc was a female.. Ugh didnt even take a shirt off or nothing, I said I won't be using her again... That led me to a much better hospital that envolved students doing some of my exams- best ever.

I did when i was a kid though,my mom was with me, I think I was 12 or 13, I didnt like that lady doc lol

Once had a patient refuse to bare her bottom to get an injection. Her mom gave her quite a spanking. Much worse than getting he injection, which she could not avoid.

As a kid i was always relucant to have to udress in front of the dr out of shyness and emabaresement my refusal never got me far as i always wound up naked

I've refused many times (unless/until there was a specific need for it)...turns out they will treat you anyway 😃

I once went to the ER with what I believed to be, and turned out to be, broken ribs from a skiing accident. My own doctor was going to meet me there. The nurse who took me to the exam room told me to take off everything and put on a gown. I refused, telling her I only had an injury to my rib-area and would take off my shirt. She did NOT like my refusal but it ended there.

I'll take any excuse to disrobe for medical reasons, real or play.

I agree with several of the posts below -- it seems sort of strange to see a doctor or nurse and then refuse to disrobe to the full extent requested. It seems like some years ago, I was asked to remove my shirt at an exam and didn't immediately take off the t-shirt I had on underneath, but that was only because I misunderstood the instructions. As I recall, the doctor clarified immediately that my t-shirt was to come off, too, and it did. For play exams, though, I think some resistance or reluctance to disrobe as instructed is a great way to start -- forcing the doc to do some work to get the patient to the level of undress that's necessary. The patient may need to be corrected and shown who is in charge of the situation.

When i was kid, my mother and doctors take hours to make me undress.

Now, it's almost the same, if there's male doctor, not the same story, if there's a female doctor!

When I was a teenager, the male dermatologist asked me to get fully undressed for a full skin check when I was there for facial acne. I refused and he gave me a half-hearted lecture about skin cancer, but moved on.

Most recently I was asked to remove my panties for a pre-employment physical. I questioned the doctor- especially since it didn't seem they were set up for pelvic exams (no stirrups or speculums). He insisted he was required to complete a uro-genital and rectal exam, so I did comply, but I felt like he was just trying to get a look.

Sleepless,

Do you think it is commonplace for doctors who perform compulsory exams to take advantage of attractive patients by examining more than is needed? After all, he's not your primary care physician and will probably never see you again. Plus, he can leverage you into complying because the physical exam is a requirement in order for you to gain employment.

Sensei1980

Sensai,

I don't think it's commonplace for docs that perform cumpulsory exams to take advantage, I think many of them just gloss over much of the exam because they know they're working with healthy patients.

That said, I do think these docs know they can get away with poor bedside manner because they're not trying to maintain a relationship with these patients. So, I think both physicians with bad bedside manner and those who want to take advantage of their power are more likely to find their way into that type of position.

The doc that did my pre-employment physical definitely seemed to be taking advantage of the power he held. The dermatologist was just trying to perform a complete exam that I was to embarrassed to submit to.

I registered with A Dr. here in the USA. I went in to get a prescription re-authorized. He threw a gown at me and asked me to completely undress as he told me he was going to do a full examination on me. I refused and threw the gown back at him. I don’t think he had ever been refused his wishes before, he almost had a meltdown. He said he needed to fully examine me. I said, please just re-authorize the prescription that was the only reason I was there. The bloodwork had already been done. He was still adamant that he was going to examine me. Then insisted that I should also have to do a colonoscopy I told him that wasn’t going to happen as a close friend of mine had just endured a perforated colon when she went. In the end, he then stated he was going to give me ten minutes to think about it, I told him straight, do not ever try and give me an ultimatum, I asked him to do what I had asked, I am the client, but he then said, I would have to see another Dr. which I did. I complained about his actions, to his superiors. As usual they seemed more in favor of covering his ass. He is now retired; I got a letter informing me last week, that he is done in the medical business. I wonder why……

When I see patients in the ED I expect them to be undressed in a gown. I don't have time to waste while they undress. The nurses give them a gown and instructions before I arrive. If they are not undressed I see another patient and come back later. Obviously if it's for a sore throat or a psych problem I don't expect them to be undressed.

Quite agree Liquidsky there is not need to waste your valuable time in the ER .

When I see patients in the ED I expect them to be undressed in a gown. I don't have time to waste while they undress. The nurses give them a gown and instructions before I arrive. If they are not undressed I see another patient and come back later. Obviously if it's for a sore throat or a psych problem I don't expect them to be undressed.

Anyone who has worked in an ER ( A&E in the UK) will fully understand your sentiments.

Big Easy Guy, with all due respect, you were in the wrong here not the doctor. If the script you were wanting to be refilled was not originally written by that doctor, and or this was the first time seeing this doctor then the doctor had every right to give you a good looking over. You said you had blood work done, okay, but blood work doesn't give a doctor all the pieces of the puzzle. If the medication was a narcotic, blood thinner, heart medication or something along those lines then he was absolutely right for wanting to look you over. He has a license that he worked very very hard for, and a license that cost him probably as much as you will make in your lifetime plus the cost of your house.

And please do NOT give us shit about you being the "client". When you are seeing a doctor for his medical care you are absolutely NOT a client, you are a patient. There is a very big difference there. I'm sorry I am not trying to be a bitch here but this is a very very hot topic for me. You complained to his superiors? About what, why? Because he was trying to give you good medical care? He as the doctor has every right to examine you anytime he wants basically as long as it's justified. And again, you are NOT educated enough in the field of medicine to make that kind of decision. The reason his superiors didn't do anything is because the doctor was not wrong here. And you do realize that by doing so you looked like a total idiot right? And they I am sure referred to you as such.

Lets look at this from the doctors side. You the patient come in for a script refill for a pain killer, lets say percocets for example. Do you know that the FDA is cracking down on scripts written for narcotics that in some states they require the doctor to do a full assessment of the patient each and every single time in order to justify him writing his patient for that narcotic? Then instead of just having it in your chart where it might be looked at if your chart gets pulled for a chart audit, that doctor has to enter all the information into the states computer so that the doctor, the patient and the drug can be tracked at all times. Do yo know if the doctor doesn't do that, all of what I mentioned above that the FDA, the Feds, and locals and who ever else can, will and do investigate. Do you know that if your doctor doesn't enter the right information he could be arrested and charged for each pill. Meaning that if he wrote you for 120 percocets and he is indited he will be indited on 120 counts of whatever they decide to charge him with. So your one bottle of pills would cost him his license, probably his relationships, and he would be spending the rest of his life in prison, not jail, prison. Trust me when I say this, you are not worth it, no patient is.

So lets say you are on insulin for example. and you go and see your doctor for a refill. He can look at the blood work and see that your levels have been stable and they are within acceptable limits. Great so based on your blood work things look okay so he refills your script and away you go. So a few weeks later you end up in the ER because you have an open festering wound on your foot that was just a small nick where you cut your toe trimming your toenails. You didn't think it was anything so you didn't tell the doctor, and because it was a simple refill the doctor didn't look at you. Next thing you know you are having your foot amputated. Could you sue, and could you win? Yes almost definitely for sure. Why? Because the doctor gave you a refill on a medication that needed to have a skin assessment done along with it. And because the doctor didn't look at you he can't chart that he did or that would be a whole different legal issue, and because it's not charted it didn't happen. And because it didn't happen then that doctor doesn't have a leg to stand on legally speaking, not even yours.

Let me give you a personal example. After the "event" that happened between Doc and I one of the rules of our contract was that he wasn't allowed to be my doctor anymore. So I had to find my own doctor here. John was alright I guess, he is nice and funny both of which I appreciate and admire. Well I went into his office and basically laid it all out for him, meaning what happened to Doc and I and why I was having to find another doctor. I told him that basically I just needed him to keep me on the meds I was on currently and other than that I am pretty low maintenance. Well one of the meds I was on at the time was a pill called Adipex. In the state of Ohio the laws for prescribing this med are a lot stricter than most other states for some reason. Ohio's law says that we can only be on that med for 3 months at a time and then off for 6 then can go back on for 3 and so forth and so on. Most doctors in Ohio won't even prescribe it and a lot of Ohioans go down to Ky to get it so they can have it all the time. The law also says that we have to be weighed and have a hands on assessment done each and every time we come in for a refill. He has to document everything including that he has educated me about the pill and diet and exercise and whatever else. Before he would even prescribe this medication to me he made me go and have a stress test done to make sure my heart could handle it. It may seem like over kill to you but my doctor was absolutely justified in doing so and had every right to kick me out of his practice if I refused to comply.

You know obviously if you go to the doctor for an ingrown toenail and the doctor wants to do a breast exam on you, that is not appropriate. Even a layman knows that. But just because you are there for a refill on meds, new doctor or not, that doctor has the right to examine whatever part or parts he needs to to one, make sure you are getting what you need and what's appropriate for your condition, two to make sure you still need it, and three because if anything goes wrong at any point in the game that doctor has to be able to justify anything and everything he did or didn't do. If you end up in court and you are suing the doctor over something the doctor did wrong do think his defense of "well the patient wouldn't let me examine him so I just went ahead and gave him the refill anyway" will make him win the lawsuit? Hell no. That would pretty much be the end of that case and the doctor would be done.

As to your comment about his retirement, well I can assure you it wasn't because he was a bad doctor. The problem doctors face these days, meaning family docs is that they have patients like you trying to tell them how to do their job. They go on Web MD and look up a few things and the next thing you know they know as much as we do. Ummm, no. They are tired of patients refusing to let the doctor examine them, they are tired of druggies coming to their offices looking for narc's. They are tired of not getting paid by the insurance companies and Medicare because they didn't do a head to toe assessment of your skin when you came in for your Lantus because you wouldn't let them.

A lot of good doctors especially family practice docs are retiring early because of some of the reasons I mentioned above.

And since I am on a roll here I might as well add this in as well. It has been my experience as well as most if not ALL of my medical friends, doctors, nurses etc. that the people that complain the most, the people that hassle us the most, or in other words the people that are the biggest assholes are most usually on welfare. And some might argue that they are not on welfare, they have Molina. Ummm, that is welfare. So why is it that the people who are living off of my hard earned money are the ones bitching the most, especially when they are getting treated for FREE! I could go on about those types of people and the issues they cause our health care system for a good 100 pages or so and that would be me just getting started. Grrrr.

So please the next time you are at the doctor and you don't understand why he is asking you to do something,wanting this or wanting that, ask him. Doctors do not mind you asking questions at all. If you don't understand something it's your right to ask. The more you communicate with your doctor or other health care professionals the more you will know and understand and the better you will be taken care of.

And last but not least if you are in the age range to get a colonoscopy then suck it up and do so. Yes your friend had complications. Please come on. 99 percent of all colonoscopies go perfectly normal with no complications. There is always some risk with ANY procedure, including putting Bactine and a band-aid on a paper cut. Gosh, they might be allergic to the adhesive on the band-aid or something. 99 percent of the time nothing happens, but there always has to be that one you know. Your friend just happened to be that one. If you are afraid it's the doctor she went to then pick another one. I am sure there are more than a few to pick from. So suck it up and do what's best for you. Medically speaking you may think you know what's best for you, but you are a layman and most of what's best for you medically speaking needs to be left up to the true medical professionals, not the ones who got their medical degree from Web MD.........Just sayin!

Mashie

Mashie, you're my kind of girl!

Big, I wouldn't have argued with you, or even given you the ten minutes to think about it. I'd have shown you the door.

Big,

You are lucky you were not kicked entirely from the practice of that clinic! I can almost guarantee your chart has been marked with a red flag to alert any other physician or nurse etc you are confrontational with issues of compliance and a few other warnings. These red flags can and are charted in a way that are completely oblivious to patients, even if they have copies of their records and have been able to read their actual chart when it is left in the door, on the counter of the exam room etc when they are waiting for the Dr to see them.

Docinny45, Have I told you today how much I love you and how much IN love with you I am? Do you have any idea how much I want your sexy freakin body? I can't tell you how happy and thrilled it makes me seeing you here again. Yummm yummm I just can't get enough of you these days boy.

Now as far as your above comment is concerned. I have been in your office a good 1000 times and I can so envision you doing exactly that to someone. And me imagining you showing someone to the door like that with your stethoscope hanging around your neck. Damn, that's so hot, you taking charge like that.

Okay okay, apparently I need a very cold shower.

Mashie

Yes and after reading Andie's post I hit the quick edit button so I could add the following. Andie is very right about what she said on both accounts. Also, when and if you leave that practice the current doctor will alert the future doctor of your actions as well. Why do they do this you are wondering? It' simple, it's so if anything ever does happen it helps the doctors lawyers establish that you have been a pain in the ass since such and such a date. Which helps blow any and all complaints you file out of the water.

Also I might add that you can fire or quit a practice, or be kicked out of a practice and you have your files transferred to your new doctor. Well that new doctor does NOT have to accept you as a patient. And as long as your old doctor gave you a 30 day or some require a 60 day notice in writing your old doctor doesn't have to take you back either. Then you will find yourself with no doctor. Then when you can't get any doctor to write you for a refill because they won't accept you as a patient you are going to feel like a total ass wipe because you didn't let the first doctor examine you.

We can't fix stupid, all we can do is educate them.

Mashie

^^^^ yeah, yeah, yeah, save the mushy stuff for home. . . . . 😁 😁 😁 😁

I just want to echo everyone else here. Docs have lost their licenses for less.