Vegetable glycerine.

Out of curiosity, I am asking does anyone else like Vegetable glycerine.

I like to add one tablespoon per quart of water. I use soap suds in the same mix.

I find it makes the enema feel silky. It just seems to gently sneak in. Sometimes I do not even feel it going in just hear the air suck from the bag and it is all inside.

Coming out is a bit windy but feels nice and slippery. I wait for an hour or so for the pooping to end.

A very gentle enema experience. I have 100 percent vegetable glycerine enemas as well. An expensive reward I can earn. Or a squirt to prep for a deep large colon tube.

After enema butt fucking is extra stimulating.

@Bad_Princess - I've always wondered about vegetable glycerin. I first saw it Bulk Barn. There were soap sized blocks of glycerin as well as vegetable ones. I know that liquid food grade glycerin is a king's ransom.

IS there a difference in the glycerin in suppositories and the glycerin in soap and the edible glycerin?

I need schooling on this please.

There is no difference between glycerine in suppositories and glycerine in soap and edible glycerine.

@SuppoEnemaGirl , The different names of glycerine: plant glycerine, glycerol, trihydroxypropane, propane-1,2,3-triol, 1,2,3-propanetriol.

Glycerin is extracted from vegetable oils. Its chemical name is glycerol. This glycerol is a tri-alcohol. In the oil this tri-alcohol is connected to three fatty acids. In different oils the fatty acids are different, but the glycerol that unites them is always the same.

Pure glycerin is a thick liquid very greedy of water, denser than water, the winter before coming out I put a little on my lips to prevent them from desiccating. It also forms part of the composition of glycerine laxative suppositories. Many also have the habit of putting some in the water of the enema.

@SuppoEnemaGirl

I've always wondered about vegetable glycerin. I first saw it Bulk Barn. There were soap sized blocks of glycerin as well as vegetable ones. I know that liquid food grade glycerin is a king's ransom.

Clyso covered the different types of food-grade glycerine you asked about so there is no point in going over it again.

It does not have to be expensive. I use this one from Amazon. It is a big jug .

https://www.amazon.ca/Vegetable-Glycerin-Medical-Pharmaceutical-Applications/dp/B0C75THBFD/ref=sr_1_8?crid=NQYV62MY6IB2&keywords=vegetable+glycerine+food+grade&qid=1691243224&sprefix=%2Caps%2C80&sr=8-8&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.b06bdbbe-20fd-4ebc-88cf-fa04f1ca0da8

This one is a good size at a lower price. I have not used it myself.

https://www.amazon.ca/NV-Superfoods-Vegetable-Glycerin-Essential/dp/B0B483FNBX/ref=sr_1_7?crid=NQYV62MY6IB2&keywords=vegetable+glycerine+food+grade&qid=1691242237&sprefix=%2Caps%2C80&sr=8-7

It depends on how much and how often you use it. The big jug is a better value if you use it a lot.

@clyso - I had read some medical and nutritional notes as well as the chemical breakdowns of it in my research. But I got so confused and turned around about it. It all became gibberish in my brain and was chucked into the 'fergit about it' bin.

There is no difference between glycerine in suppositories and glycerine in soap and edible glycerine.

Thank you, This is exactly what I needed.

@Bad_Princess - Thank you for the leads. We've decided to start small with a bar from the Bulk Barn. Then, who knows. 😊

Glycerin in pure form is a thick liquid which is made the same way you make soap. It also can be a byproduct of the soap making process and hence you have glycerin soap. The vegetable glycerin is made from stuff like vegetable oils, coconut, olive oil, etc. The other is a byproduct of biodiesel and the like, all is safe.

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Thank you, Rigel. I have no plans on ceasing my little contributions.

Interesting thread. I have a small bottle of liquid veggie glycerin I bought to try out as an enema straight out of the bottle. I measured the precise amount found in glycerin suppositories (2 grams), put it in a syringe, then put it in my behind.

OMG! What a burn-tingle! In less than a minute I was on the toilet doing my business.

But, this raises a question - what is the difference between vegetable glycerin in liquid form and in solid form? I know the suppositories are not pure glycerin, but are they made from the soap-like bars?

Interesting thread. I have a small bottle of liquid veggie glycerin I bought to try out as an enema straight out of the bottle. I measured the precise amount found in glycerin suppositories (2 grams), put it in a syringe, then put it in my behind.

OMG! What a burn-tingle! In less than a minute I was on the toilet doing my business.

But, this raises a question - what is the difference between vegetable glycerin in liquid form and in solid form? I know the suppositories are not pure glycerin, but are they made from the soap-like bars?

Not sure what you mean by "soap-like bars." There is a glycerin soap that looks like a soap bar, this is soap that retains a signficant amount of the glycerin rather than having it removed. You can use it as a suppository, but the effect will be more like a soap stick than a glycerin suppository.

Glycerin suppositories usually come in two forms, the U.S. type which mixes the glycerin with sodium stearate to solidify it and the European type that mixes the glycerin with gelatin to solidify it.

Not sure what you mean by "soap-like bars." ...

This is a link to a solid glycerin: https://www.amazon.ca/Saint-Terra-Palm-Clear-Glycerine/dp/B07HP1ZQX9/ref=sr_1_9?crid=150CNBEOCF7FD&keywords=vegetable+glycerine+food+grade+bar&qid=1691346483&sprefix=vegetable+glycerine+food+grade+bar%2Caps%2C169&sr=8-9

Veggie gycerin is made from vegetable oils, some claiming to be void of some particular oils such as palm oil, etc. Liquid veggie gycerin is also made from vegetable oils, some making the same claims as solid bar makers concerning oils not included in their recipe.

I suppose the difference is in the ingredients rather than what is excluded, but, specifically, what is the difference between liquid and solid vegetable glycerin?

@Mullanphy

What is the difference between liquid and solid vegetable glycerin?

It is the delivery method. A solid glycerine suppository can be shoved up the bum where it will soften and turn to liquid. Liquid glycerine needs to be poured in.

The end result is the same. A really smooth delightful poop.

Soap like bars? I think this is referring to the same thing in your link " solid glycerine" I have seen these I believe it is just solidified vegetable glycerine. It would need to be heated and turned into a liquid for use. It would be convenient to store it in this form. I have been tempted to buy one and chew on it.

It would in the end become liquid vegetable glycerine. The formerly solid glycerine would have the solidifying agent in it. The always liquid would not.

I would have to experiment to determine if the formerly solidified glycerine would return to its solid form after cooling and at what temperature.

If it melts below body temperature it would be safe to use inside. If it returns to solid below body temperature it may leave a crust or nodules inside.

A bar of glycerine soap uses it as a ingredient as it is in my oatmeal and raisin cookies.

There is not much in there. Much more sugar butter and oatmeal. Shoving one of my oatmeal cookies up one's arse would be pointless. They are much better consumed with the other end.

The soap would be irritating. It might make one poop eventually. My cookies would be irritating as well. HMMMM possible experiment?

Just be sure it is food-safe vegetable glycerine being used.

The different makers use different ingredients. Palm oil is a concern to environmentalists so not having it in there is a selling point.

https://www.wwf.org.uk/updates/8-things-know-about-palm-oil

Coconut oil is a saturated fat, It raises cholesterol. It may be a health concern for some people. so not using it is a selling point.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/food-features/coconut-oil/

I like to use vegetable glycerine for flavor or coconut oil in my baking and warm it for sensual massages.

I prefer the liquid form for its ability to mix with water and be able to be measured out. I have used suppositories with an enema. It works fine but does not give the same slick sensation afterwards the liquid does in the larger volume I use.

I hope this answers your questions Mullanphy.

If it does not ask more until we have it hammered out to your satisfaction.

@Mullanphy the link you posted is to a glycerin soap. You can use it in an enema, or you can use it as a soapstick. There is some glycerin in there, but also soap. Pure glycerin is a liquid, when used as a suppository it is mixed with a carrier that holds it as a solid.

When fat is saponified with an alkali (sodium or potassium hydroxide), the fat is chemically broken apart into a fatty acid (which reacts with the alkali to form soap, technically a salt of the acid) and glycerin. Usually the glycerin is removed from the soap because it can be sold at a profit, but it can also be left in the soap to make glycerin soap. These are usually milled to a clear, jelly like form.

Glycerin is glycerin, the source of the fat doesn't really matter chemically. The variation goes with the fatty acid, not the glycerin. Don't worry about the saturated fat content of the source fat. Ethical/ecological concerns about materials production are relevant, however.

@Mullanphy the link you posted is to a glycerin soap.

Sorry, but the link is to a "melt and pour soap *base*", used as a primary ingredient when making soap. Perhaps I should have said, "soap-shaped bars". 😂 I don't know much about soap making, but this one contains several forms of glycerin and veggie oils. I'm trying to figue out how the oils were solidified.

@Bad_Princess As much as I love cookies, I doubt I'd shove any up my rear end. Even loaded with glycerin they probably would not have enough to do anything up there. However, like prunes, it might take only a handful eaten in on sitting, to produce a good BM. If you'll make me a big batch I'd be happy to test the theory! 🤪

I think I'll find a soap-making forum and see what I can find out from the unkink.

Edit: the link in the previous post is to Amazon.ca and the glycerin soap base is $111 for the 2 lb package. On Amazon.com the same product is $18 from one seller and $19 from another. Canadians should be protesting the bejesus out such practices.

Its the secret ingredient to making bubbles or the bubble juice add it to dish soap and you can make very big bubbles

@Mullanphy

Canadians should be protesting the bejesus out such practices.

Outside of kink, I build and collect models and accessories. Tanks, trucks, aircraft. I do my shopping on the net where I can find and buy a kit that costs $89.0 at the Hobby shop from Asia or Australia for a lot less even with postage. Most people I know do the same thing. This practice spreads to clothing as well. Local Hobby Shops now make most of their money selling paints and scratch-building supplies.

It is a silent protest that hits retailers who gouge. I do purchase some kits from a shop in Toronto with fair prices.

Finding the source is the key. Asia will sell 1 or 100 to anyone for the same price. Buy before the markup.

Sorry, but the link is to a "melt and pour soap *base*", used as a primary ingredient when making soap.

Soap base is soap, "making soap" using soap base is melting it, adding scents and colors, and pouring it into molds.

Making soap from scratch involves cooking a fat and alkali together. The technical term is "ester hydrolysis" The ester is the fat (the acid component is a fatty acid, the alcohol is the glycerin).

Rundown of the ingredients list of the soap base:

Coconut oil, safflower oil: these are the oils they start with to make the soap. Often "gentle" soaps are what are called "superfatted" - made in such a way that not all of the oil is consumed by the alkali. This makes them more gentle on the skin. It doesn't say if they do that here, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Glycerin - usually the glycerin in glycerin soap is the residual from the soapmaking process, but there is no reason they can't add glycerin separately. The soap will "hold" a certain amount of glycerin when it is mixed in, so the answer to your question of "what do they use to solidify the glycerin" is soap.

Sodium hydroxide: Lye, this is what breaks the oil down into glyerin and the "sodium salt of a fatty acid" that is soap. Mix it with the water, pour it in to a kettle with the oil, and cook for a while.

Sodium stearate: Chemical name for a type of soap. Stearic acid is a fatty acid, mixed with sodium hydroxide you have a soap. Stearic acid is also mixed with glycerin and heated to form the US- style glycerin suppositories.

Can't read the next one.

The latter ones are just emulsifiers and moisturizers to make the soap "nicer".

Amazon and similar electronic marketplaces are notorious for near predatory pricing in some areas and by some sellers. Look around and you'll find better options.

Its the secret ingredient to making bubbles or the bubble juice add it to dish soap and you can make very big bubbles

Bubbles can actually be a good way to "kink camouflage." In addition to glycerin a high molecular weight polyethelyne oxide such as J-lube or X-lube also helps make big bubbles. Now to somehow come up with a rationalization for the enema bags and sex toys...

I recall while living in California years ago...I'd often go into a Lucky Supermarket, and pick up a bottle or two of glycerin, which was sold in their drug department. It was rare not to have it in stock. And Yes, it works great, and very cramping, to say the least!

Soap base is soap, "making soap" using soap base is melting it, adding scents and colors, and pouring it into molds.

Thanks for bringing some light into this very very muddled thread!

@Mullanphy

Edit: the link in the previous post is to Amazon.ca and the glycerin soap base is $111 for the 2 lb package. On Amazon.com the same product is $18 from one seller and $19 from another. Canadians should be protesting the bejesus out such practices.

I suspect the higher cost is not price gouging, but covering the cost of delivering the product to you. When I ship a product that has to cross the national border, it must include documentation certifying that the recipient is not an evil actor in international mischief and mayhem.

A US merchant cannot just drop an item in the mailbox and ship it to a Canadian citizen. Despite our (Canada & US) generally decent civility towards one another, the US government imposed a system called Export Control and every thing has an assigned Export Classification Number. Now I ship and exchange vacuum tubes with friends in Canada that where manufactured during WWII. The biggest danger they pose is the glass envelope breaks and someone gets an oopsie and needs a stitch or two. But to insure that bad actors on the world stage do not have unfettered access to such dangerous technology, I have to certify I am not shipping it to someone who could potentially divert it for use as a weapon of war etc. There are even a few nations I am not able to ship anything too. The Department of State has nicely produced a manual so one can look up the item's Export Control Number and I can correctly enter it on the forms. (Yes I used the plural, it is forms and it is a pile of paper). Once I have assembled all of that paperwork, then I take it to the shipper and as you might imagine, he is not about to keep copies and make sure the shipment has copies attached gratis. So the business that sells a product to you has to assign an employee to complete such paperwork. And you know that his time is not 'free' so guess who pays. Thus you can begin to see how a $10.00 US 1 gallon jug of glycerin suddenly shows up with a $75.00 Canadian price tag.

Now you likely are asking yourself why in the world are they worried about a one gallon jug of glycerin? After all your intended use is, oh well never mind. Getting down to why the Feds would be interested in glycerin is that is it one of the precursors used in many explosives. As a matter of fact glycerin aka glycerol or glycerine can be mixed with a couple of acids and you too can own something useful in Big Bang Experiments with something you made called Nitro-Glycerin. Imagine that. Of course there is a high risk you will obliterate yourself and hapless others within range.

I can only imagine the horror when the Feds bust down the door expecting to find a big bad terrorist only to find someone in the middle of boffing a couple of quarts of water mixed with glycerin. The victim might find themself being disarmed by the bomb squad out of fear the enema user is preparing for a suicide mission.

@Victoria1951 said,

I can only imagine the horror when the Feds bust down the door expecting to find a big bad terrorist only to find someone in the middle of boffing a couple of quarts of water mixed with glycerin. The victim might find themself being disarmed by the bomb squad out of fear the enema user is preparing for a suicide mission.

LMAO…

@Victoria1951 When I had an Etsy shop I shipped occasionaly to Canadian customers. Shipping IS often more than the retail cost of the product sold, but shipping costs cannot explain such an enormous difference.

Example: Cost to ship that 2 pounds of soap base from St Louis, MO, USA to Quebec, CA: (Pirateship.com is just one of more than a dozen reduced-rate label sellers on the 'net. You buy the label from the r-r seller, they pay the shipper, you print and use the label)

USPS First Class package retail $34.65

USPS First Class package buying through Pirateship.com $32.92

UPS Worldwide Expedited retail $142.84

UPS Worldwide Expedited buying through Pirateship.com $31.56

Yes, I'd have to fill out the customs form, but that takes about 20 seconds. The Canadian seller is, presumably, shipping from Canada.

Not starting an argument, just pointing out the complete lack of evidence to support anything but price gouging by that Amazon.ca seller.

Not to mention that shipping is frequently (and international shipping almost always) added on later, and the customs broker fees are always added on and paid later by the recipient. Post Office is AFAIK the only one that doesn't charge $40+ to waive the papers at a customs agent.

The forms are also designed to give receiving nations the information they need for their customs agents. Fortunately they are mostly standardized so you don't need to have hundreds of different versions.

It sounds interesting to try. If I could find our vegetable glycerine...that would help.

I've been doing a lot of surfin' 'n' searchin' since my initial question.

All real glycerin is a relatively viscous, clear liquid made from vegetable fats/oils like olive oil, canola oil, coconut oil, etc. Synthetic glycerin is made from petroleum is an entirely different chemical and is a jelly-like consistancy.

Glycerin is a trade name for glycerol, but the two terms are used interchangeably. For the most part, only chemists

Glycerin suppositories are made from glycerin and have additives that makes the little bullet remain solid until it hits the required temperature.

Glycerin soap base is glycerin with a lot more additives than the suppositories. Again, these are to keep the product in a solid state. The instructions I've read say to melt it in a double boiler, so 212° (F) is the upper limit for not damaging it. Actual melting point is 131° (F) so it would not melt inside a person.

@MissTress Glycerin is available on Amazon in a variety of package sizes from as small as 1 oz to as large as 1 gallon. Price per ouce is just as varied. Theoretically, if it is "glycerin" it should be about 95-97% pure (food grade). Anything less pure is just less pure but the additives might not be safe for ingestion from either end.

All real glycerin is a relatively viscous, clear liquid made from vegetable fats/oils like olive oil, canola oil, coconut oil, etc. Synthetic glycerin is made from petroleum is an entirely different chemical and is a jelly-like consistancy.

Most glycerin is a byproduct of soapmaking. The soapmaking process produces soap, glycerin and water. Commercial soapmakers extract the glycerin to sell separately, while amateur soapmakers leave the glycerin in their soap, as it does no harm and they have no means and no reason to remove it. Glycerin is added to some toilet soaps as a moisturiser.

If soap is made from vegetable oils, the extracted glycerin is sold as vegetable glycerin. Some soap is or used to be made from tallow (animal fat). The glycerin extracted from tallow soap is chemically the same, but obviously can’t be sold as ‘vegetable glycerin’.

Synthetic glycerin is not a different chemical, it is the same chemical synthesised by a different route from propylene. If it is gel-like, it is because it is impure.

Glycerin is a trade name for glycerol, but the two terms are used interchangeably. For the most part, only chemists

Glycerin is not a trade name, it is the original name given to the substance by a French chemist in the early 19th century. Chemists today generally call it glycerol, with the ‑ol suffix indicating an alcohol, while the commercial product, which contains a little water, is still sold as glycerin(e).

Glycerin soap base is glycerin with a lot more additives than the suppositories. Again, these are to keep the product in a solid state. The instructions I've read say to melt it in a double boiler, so 212° (F) is the upper limit for not damaging it. Actual melting point is 131° (F) so it would not melt inside a person.

Soap base is soap. Nothing else. Often called ‘melt & pour soap’, it is sold in bulk form to amateur soapmakers, who melt it, add colour, scent, exfoliants, or whatever else they add, pour it into moulds, and sell it as toilet soaps. Buying ready-made soap base saves them the trouble of making their own soap by reacting vegetable oils or animal fats with alkali.

Glycerin soap base is soap base, i.e. soap (see above), with enough added glycerin to make it transparent. Note: glycerin is the additive here. Glycerin soap base is not ‘glycerin with additives’, it is soap base (soap) with added glycerin.

Trying vainly to damp down the wildly propagating confusion.

All commercially available glycerin can be described as vegetable glycerin.

The economical way to make it in commercial quantities was described above.

Are there any meaningful limits to safe glycerin usage?

For example, say someone was filled with 4+ quarts of 95% glycerin, retained for 2 hours each time, and this continued 3/7 days for a month.

Could there be consequences (besides financial😜)?