Balloon Nozzle

I had my large Klystra double balloon nozzle for many years. When it finally broke, I bought the Clean Stream version. But the 1 ½ inch gap between the balloons was way too much to snug up the distal balloon. So I cut a 1 inch long piece of pipe foam insulation for ¾ inch pipe, hollowing out 1 end to fit next to the curve on the outer balloon. Then I wrapped it around in the space between balloons, overlapping it to create more surface, then secured it with a twist tie. Now the gap is only ¾ inch between the balloons. It holds the distal balloon snug. I have had this setup for several years. One of these days I would like to make a spacer that is less porous for cleaning purposes.

Hello, There seems to be quite a difference in spacing of the balloons in the Silicone inflatable nozzles.

I had previously done some research and contacted some vendors and below is what I found:

PN / Sku: AD666 Has balloon spacing of 1.21 inch (Silicone Inflatable Double Bulb Enema System)

PN / Sku: RU710 Has balloon spacing of 1.91 inch (Silicone Double Bulb Nozzle)

Can anyone confirm these values? That 2nd listed one having a balloon spacing of 1.9 inch is useless since it's so far apart, what would be the use? Would basically act like a single balloon nozzle type wouldn't it?

I would think to create a seal, it would not have to be longer than 1.3 inch or so. Anyone know how the german latex ones, the spacings on those? I think the older ones were which tighter and better though. Would be nice to find a nozzle type with 1 - 1.2 inch balloon spacings.

Hello, There seems to be quite a difference in spacing of the balloons in the Silicone inflatable nozzles.

I had previously done some research and contacted some vendors and below is what I found:

PN / Sku: AD666 Has balloon spacing of 1.21 inch (Silicone Inflatable Double Bulb Enema System)

PN / Sku: RU710 Has balloon spacing of 1.91 inch (Silicone Double Bulb Nozzle)

Can anyone confirm these values? That 2nd listed one having a balloon spacing of 1.9 inch is useless since it's so far apart, what would be the use? Would basically act like a single balloon nozzle type wouldn't it?

I would think to create a seal, it would not have to be longer than 1.3 inch or so. Anyone know how the german latex ones, the spacings on those? I think the older ones were which tighter and better though. Would be nice to find a nozzle type with 1 - 1.2 inch balloon spacings.

I can confirm that those values that you received for the two are correct (within manufacturing tolerance). The RU 710 is also the longer of the two and has better bulbs and chrome-plated valves that don't leak. It's also the older of the two models.

Most people assume that the balloons have to be closer (more like the latex rubber ones) to be effective. The error in this assumption is that it requires the inner balloon to “sit” on the inner rectal sphincter muscles and seal in order to be effective. Even if the distance was shorter like the German latex ones (a bit more an inch, at 27-28 mm) that wouldn't be enough to work in most cases.

What these double balloon nozzles rely upon is the sealing of the rectum at a distance above the rectal floor (without over inflating them). When done properly, the nozzles won't slide out of the rectum once inflated and will provide an effective seal of the rectum. This deeper tight seal also allows the “top” of the outer balloon to be just at or just slightly within the outer sphincter muscle ring. I've you've done it right, you'll feel the outer balloon pull tight against the outer sphincter muscles to produce the secondary seal of the nozzle when you start inflating it. You'll know it with the very first squeeze of the bulb for the outer balloon if you've got a good seal.

And even though they have a significant diameter when inflated, they can be pushed out while still inflated. Even when filled with air, they have enough flexibility to distort in shape with high enough peristaltic pressure to pop out , still inflated (they are not like solid nozzles that have little of no flexibility.

@Enema_Runner Thanks for the info and confirms.

So with the RU710 1.9 inch balloon spacing, it's advisable to do the “Kegel” type of contractions during inflation of the inner balloon to properly seat it. As per your suggestion in your above message #30.

How about the AD666 1.2 inch balloon spacing, since they are closer together, is Kegel required or can make it worst? How about with the latex german short 1 inch spacings? I assume these aren't able to sit deeper in the inner rectal sphincter muscles. Would they therefore rely on the lower outer anal ring instead perhaps?

Last but not least, if one is to use a single balloon nozzle type, do you know if it can be also be seated properly in the inner rectal sphincter muscles by using the Kegel technique?

Thank you for your help and time and sorry for all the possibly silly LoL questions.

@riller

The Kegel works for all of them. It's most important for the single balloon type. But anything that you can do to have the balloon seat in the rectum goes a long way to a tight seal.

@Enema_Runner Is it correct to assume that the double inflatable nozzle creates an even tighter seal when a person stands up since the extra squeezing of the ass cheeks tends to pull the inside balloon more as you stand up? (As compared to bent over at the waist during insertion and inflation)

I find that the double balloon inflatable nozzle stays in place more so than the single balloon model. When both balloons are inflated the first sphincter (anus) is sandwiched between the balloons. The single balloon model has a tendency to work its way further into the colon thus allowing th enema water to escape out around the balloon.

@Enema_Runner Is it correct to assume that the double inflatable nozzle creates an even tighter seal when a person stands up since the extra squeezing of the ass cheeks tends to pull the inside balloon more as you stand up? (As compared to bent over at the waist during insertion and inflation)

Not necessarily. I find I can use my muscles to pull the inner and then the outer balloon in a little deeper. But the opposite can occur with an unexpected blowout.

@SteveInCt Yes I agree the single balloons are tricky. As an alternative, one can go for an inflatable enema plug nozzle. Once inflated it keeps the base flange disk kissing the outside anus tightly. Careful with some since the disk base is too small and often gets sucked inside the anus during inflation.

@SteveInCt Yes I agree the single balloons are tricky. As an alternative, one can go for an inflatable enema plug nozzle. Once inflated it keeps the base flange disk kissing the outside anus tightly. Careful with some since the disk base is too small and often gets sucked inside the anus during inflation.

@riller or @SteveInCt,

Do you have a good recommendation for such an inflatable enema plug? I use latex DBCs but want to try such an inflatable enema plug. Thanks,

Eric

@ericmacson Here's 2 different sources with similar product but different prices though.

https://www.amazon.com/Cleanstream-DE720-Inflatable-Enema-Plug/dp/B005HZR3FS/

https://enemasupply.com/products/cleanstream-inflatable-enema-plug

Not sure if links work here but if not, go to amazon and search for "enema plug" You should see it there. And other link is from enemasupply but I think it's the same product.

@ericmacson Here's 2 different sources with similar product but different prices though.

https://www.amazon.com/Cleanstream-DE720-Inflatable-Enema-Plug/dp/B005HZR3FS/

https://enemasupply.com/products/cleanstream-inflatable-enema-plug

Not sure if links work here but if not, go to amazon and search for "enema plug" You should see it there. And other link is from enemasupply but I think it's the same product.

@riller,

Thank you. Both links are fine. Wow what a price difference! No offense nor any problem I know of with Enema Supply, but I think it’s Amazon time…………..

Eric

I miss My double balloon nozzle loved the way it felt when inflated and not having to worry about leaking

I can recommend medtech3000, in particular latex double balloon nozzle:

https://www.medtech3000.de/Doppelballon-Darmrohr-mit-2-Geblaese-Darmkatheter-Ballondarmrohr::409.html

Contrary to pictures, both balloons, inner and outer, are same size - description states that. They inflate safely up to just over 3" diameter. Big enough to ensure no leaks. And balloons are quite close enough, too.

They sell through eBay, too, and often have English descriptions there, and if you email them, they reply in English.

I have on of those Clean Stream double balloon catheters. It does what it's supposed to do, but I'm really thrilled with it, the balloons seem too thin and I've heard from a friend that one of the balloons popped. I'm buying one from Medtech 3000 soon.

I can recommend medtech3000, in particular latex double balloon nozzle:

https://www.medtech3000.de/Doppelballon-Darmrohr-mit-2-Geblaese-Darmkatheter-Ballondarmrohr::409.html

Contrary to pictures, both balloons, inner and outer, are same size - description states that. They inflate safely up to just over 3" diameter. Big enough to ensure no leaks. And balloons are quite close enough, too.

They sell through eBay, too, and often have English descriptions there, and if you email them, they reply in English.

I've recently bought one of these, it's good but I'd prefer if the inner balloon had been 500cc.

I found as always the balloons could be closer together for me so I solved this by adding two thick rubber washers between the two balloons. They sit on the outside and ensure the inner balloon is held tight against the internal sphincter. I then pump the internal and external balloons to 2.5-3" in size and it's really locked in place despite it's smaller size. It's nearly as good as my previous 750/250cc balloon nozzle, only without the massive and often uncomfortable large inner balloon.

I'd post a pic but sadly that doesn't seem to be an option here.

I never had one of those up my butt. Besides using for a enema, I bet its feels nice walking around the house naked with it inside. The small back and forth sensation as I walk ( like the dildo that's up my butt right now) would be very stimulating!

I never had one of those up my butt. Besides using for a enema, I bet its feels nice walking around the house naked with it inside. The small back and forth sensation as I walk ( like the dildo that's up my butt right now) would be very stimulating!

I put a check valve in the base to hold an enema inside me with the balloons inflated. This allows me to disconnect from the bag and hose and walk around carrying a full enemas inside me. A clamp can also be used to seal the base of the nozzle. And yes, that swinging motion feels marvelous. There are steps to take to keep the balloons from suddenly deflating.

OMG!! If this is for real I've got to get one!! I loved the one I bought from Beth Tyler. It lasted for almost 20 years. It felt so good🚀I finally had the inner balloon fail😥

I'll second that CaptNemo. Loved mine also. It developed a leak between the enema delivery tube and the inner balloon.. so when trying to fill the inner balloon I'd get an air enema. Been searching for years. Hopefully I will be able to figure out the german and finally purchase a replacement.

I loved the one I bought from Beth Tyler. It lasted for almost 20 years. It felt so good🚀

Still have mine; it's about 40 years old now. Also have a single balloon retention nozzle that has a pear shaped balloon.

The Medtech product is excellent and worth the price.

Here's a link to an ad/picture showing the single balloon retention nozzle I was talking about down thread. In an old nursing manual there was mention of using this nozzle with a rubber baby bottle nipple with the tip of the nipple cut off to fashion as stopper to place behind the balloon, making somewhat like a double balloon nozzle, but less expensive. I'd done this using a rubber band to keep the nipple from slipping back.

https://www.atcmedical.com/Ostomy/Ostomy-Accessories/578007420/product.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzKKfn4zR-gIVDSmzAB2CNwFoEAkYAiABEgKYf_D_BwE