Colon Tubes -- How to Use ??

Caution is a very good thing here, you CAN do serious damage by just pushing on when an obstruction is encountered. Probably already been stated elsewhere on this board, but deep insertion is SO much easier if you insert the tube maybe 4 or 5", then start the water flow. Work the tube in farther as the water expands your colon and helps you get around the kinks and turns.

Enjoy!

Warren

Hi everyone,

I have finally found something that really helps me insert my 30 inch silicone colon tube. I agree with everyone elses' instructions; if you take a very small funnel and slowly pour vegetable oil in the tube before you attach it to the enema hose, then start the water very slowly after you have inserted it a few inches, it slides in much easier.

Hi I have used from 22fr to36 fr 18"to 36" I found that 32 from 36 fr 30"long works best feels good going in and coming out . Put water high makes easier to hold 4 to 6 qts makes it easy to hold1to 2 qts of coffee as long as you wont .Good tubing

48", 20 Fr is not going very far in. It will kink up inside after the tip goes less than six inches. There will be a tangle of catheter in your rectum.

I just bought a 30fr rectal tube 15" closed ended. Made from good quality medical red rubber and managed to get the whole tube in first go. Also got a 20" open ended 30fr and will try that tomorrow and report how that goes.

I have two of OHN's 42Fr tubes, both silicone. The 30 incher I've managed to get all the way in only one or twice, and, never the 40 incher. I solo my enemas so don't have a partner to work the colon tube in....doing this yourself entails a certain degree of acrobatics.

Does anyone know if they still use colon tubes in hospitals and for what procedures? Some 20-30 years ago, I had a barium xray series and a plain colon tube was inserted maybe 10-12 inches. I don't know if they had the inflatable, disposable tips that are used today.

Tried a longer colon tube and it was truly wonderful. Love that feeling of being so full, so high up. Anal play afterwards was great. 😃

There is an old song I used to sing called "some days are diamonds, some days are stone". Some days I can't seem to get more than ten or fifteen inches inserted, but then on a diamond day I can get the full 36" in and it is wonderful. I believe everyone has this same problem and all you can do is hope for the good days.

willy

I used to own a size 50fr colon tube, but was never brave enough to insert it fully. The problem was in its stiffness. The smaller sizes are more flexible and will curve around the large instines much easier. There is a book on colonic irrigation written by Boto Schellberg in the early 30's that discusses the use of a 'cecum tube'. The largest size was enormous...probably akin to the size 50fr tube of today. The doctor states that it requires someone of considerable experience to administer such a tube and the patient would have to assume several positions to allow complete insertion. He also mentions the danger of rupturing the colon during this procedure. The picture in the book shows five different sizes of this tube and all appear to be pointed rather than rounded. Pretty scary stuff.

With stiff tubes, it help to put immerse colon tube in super hot bath water for 5-10 minutes so that the hot water will soften up the tube and make insertion easier. This has worked for me in the past. I would like to note though, my wife can handle a lot in her bum, but colon tubes get her to safeword everytime. She hates them, and has never taken more than 6-10 inches of tube during a session. On the other hand, she has snaked every tube we own, no matter how long, up my bottom with great ease. Everyone if different, and some of our intestines have tight curves and are easily irritated while others are open for biz. With that said, on some occaision, even I can't take the whole tube because or myriad reasons that vary from session to session. Just be careful and don't force anything. My wife always says that when it is one of my better colon tube days, my bum will swallow up the tube without her using much force to put it up me.

Naughtydoc

Again an empty colon works best. Connect the colon tube to an bag abd as your colon fills, it will open the way for you to keep pushing the colon tube deeper. Ty rotating the tube to get it to "Make the Turns". Maintain the tube with your hand and let your colon drain. Then try the high baking soda mixture followed by removing the colon tube to just inside the rectum and addin a vinegar dilution. When the baking soda works it's way down to the vinegar,...stand back.......LOL

To prevent mold in enema tubing,clean equipment after every use and allow to dry by hanging up while the tubing is straight down,do not role up the tubing.If you use your enema equipment every few days the mold won't have much time to grow,otherwise it would be wise to change the tubing a couple of times a year.

Let the good times flow. w/m/72yrs/W.MA

Looking for information on the use of Colon Tubes Open and Closed End along with the Fr. number

While one might think the larger tubes are easier to insert, sometimes the reverse is true... I have then best luck with a 36 french thats 30 inches. The smaller diameter sometimes gives the tube more room to advance without doubling over on its self. nI do enjoy the sensation of cooler water when it exits the tube high up in my belly.

Anyone out there consider themselves an expert on deep insertions of a colon tube? I mean complete insertion to the cecum.

I have managed only once to get the tube all of the way there. Now a-days, I always manage to get "stuck" at the top of the descending colon. Anyone out there have a technique that they can suggest for getting past this point?

I am not having issues with the tube collapsing or doubling back, it just does not seem to want to go any further, But I know that it can be done since I have before.

What size / wall thickness of tube do you have the best luck with.

Better luck when full, empty or somewhere in between? ???

While i've never done a colon tube, i know a trick for working dildos(18") very deep. It should work for a tube, just try twisting the colon tube repeating one way or another. You'll find out which direction will work the best for you.

rubber hugs,

barbie

I, too have managed to get my colon tube to the cecum a grand total of three times. What did I do to make that happen? Darned if know! I generally do everything the same way every time, but making the bend and the spleenic flexure is (and has been for me) a matter of luck...nothing more, nothing less. The feeling of a truly high enema with a colon tube fully inserted is like no other feeling in the world...sheer bliss! But getting the tube in place has been for me a matter beyond anything I could consciously control. BTW, I use a 36 Fr. colon tube.

Deb

What is the value of using a colon tube? I take a 4 qt enema most sessions, would a colon tube enable me to take an even larger enema? Sounds dangerous, I am wondering about the payoff.

The value of the colon tube is twofold. First, the fun part. It is an enjoyable challenge to get the tube all the way in and feel it as it snakes around your abdomen inside the colon. The second is that if you get the tube very far inside, you can flush the colon from the "top-down" with clean water. All in all, it doesn't matter what you do unless you need a surgically clean site, in which case you need to do a colonoscopy type prep, eat a clear liquid diet for at least 24 hours and take several large volume enemas.

The method I use to insert is to be at least partially cleaned out first and be laying on your back--that is the position colonoscopy is performed in once you get to the transverse colon going on to the ascending colon and cecum. Then when inserting the tube, use lots of lubricant so the anus doesn't get sore. Then allow some water to flow in and close the clamp. Now to insert the tube, I like to use the "jerking off your husband" stroking method as the tube is gradually advanced. What I mean is keep the tube moving in and out in two to four (or whatever is best for you) inch strokes and keep advancing the tube. I never found just twisting the tube to be as effective as the "jerking off" method, which is actually more or less what gastroenterologists do when they insert a colonoscope. They inflate the colon with air, we will use the enema water. Periodically, depending on how the tube feels inside you, add more water and close the clamp again and advance the tube more. Keep doing this until all the way in. WARNING: the tube will not go in as far as you think. Unless you have an abnormally tortuous colon or the tube folds over on itself inside you, you won't get in five or six feet of tubing. When the colon is described as 5 to 6 feet long, that is how long it is stretched out on a table, not sitting inside your abdomen. Consider the colon to be like the slinky toy. You can stretch it out far, but when it is at rest, it isn't that long. To demonstrate my point, look at a chart showing how the colon lies inside the abdomen. Then, take a rubber tube and trace that out on your belly. You'll see there is no way you are getting five feet of tube inside you without its kinking and folding. Three feet is about the maximum you will get. DO NOT force it, especially as you get the end of the tube in to the lower right quadrant where the cecum is. If you have a heavy, stiff tube (which is really what I like because it is easier to feel inside you and "massage" to where you want it to go) you can puncture your colon, which will cause a life threatening infection or you can damage the ileocecal valve if you try to force it into the ileum.

Anyone have a trick that they use to get through the spelenic fixure- bend area?

I can insert the tube almost in one motion to that point then it seems to always stop there.

I'm finally in the mood to try inserting a tube up him (my sub). I'm not sure what the ins and outs (I couldn't help it) are to doing this correctly and well. I don't want to injure him. Just want to drive him crazy. So any help in what should I do to make this work well for both of us. Yes, I know he will be needing a good pre-cleaning. But what comes after that. Thanks.

I use a homemade colon tube made from pure gum rubber purchased from a surgical supply store for about a buck pr ft. By rounding off the end and making a small hole the side about an inch from the end you have a nice colon tube for about five dollars.I usually insert my tube between 30 and 36 inches after one or two clean-out enemas that have a little olive oil mixture,that helps work the tubing farther. Regular colon tubes,I find are a little too stiff for me and sometimes require warming up with hot water to make them easier to work farther in the colon.

Jerking the tube in and out while twisting as the water flows works best for me,but it takes practice and patients,it's lot of fun as you play with tube with a partner. Good luck.

I have tried various types and sizes of colon tube, read countless procedures and am still unable insert more than approximately 9-10 inches. I have just about given up on using them.

I use latex tubing. It works SO well! Plus it's soft and flexible, not hard and stiff like those stupid red tubes. Cut off the length that you like, from the roll. Wet the end with rubbing alcohol. I do injections, so I have a spray bottle filled with rubbing alcohol. Now, take the END of the latex tube, and push it back INSIDE of itself, for a distance of perhaps 3/4 of an inch.

Now, cut 1 or 2 small eyes on the side, at the end. Don't make the eyes big, or the end won't stay straight as you try to insert it. You want the tube to still be stiff enough not to kink. Use the handle of a spoon as a tool to push the tube inside of itself. The size that I use is either 3/8 INSIDE diameter or 1/2. The WALL thickness is either 1/8 or 3/32. A 1/2 tube is actually 3/4 AROUND, counting the wall thickness. Pretty big! Bigger than a cigar!

For new girls, a 3/8 inside diameter works best. I can thread it right in with little or no serious discomfort. I put a speculum in her ass, so that her rectum is open and not squeezing the tube. Then, I just slide the thing in. If it hangs up on a muscle ring, I back it out an inch and work it past the obstruction.

Plus, I have a micro vibrator in the tip of the tube, so I can just turn that on for a second, and then feel her abdomen. You can easily feel the EXACT location of the tip, and simply massage it past the obstruction. I've gotten so good at it, that I can do a lot of the tube with the girl in knee chest. The easiest position is when she's laying on her back.

I'm telling you, forget those stupid red tubes, and start buying some cheap latex. Kent latex is the brand that my surgical store stocks. I'm sure that there's many others too!

You are so right,the red colon tubes suck.They take forever to soften up,I tried leaving them in soap and water for days without success.The red colon tubes won't last very long even if you do finally soften them up,eventually the tubes will get too soft and swell up.I use pure gum rubber tubing to make my own colon tube by rounding the ends and making two small holes about an inch from the end.

I highly recommend silicone colon tubes.

Please see my posting under Enemas / Devices / long colon tube advice 😄

You are so right,the red colon tubes suck.They take forever to soften up,I tried leaving them in soap and water for days without success.The red colon tubes won't last very long even if you do finally soften them up,eventually the tubes will get too soft and swell up.I use pure gum rubber tubing to make my own colon tube by rounding the ends and making two small holes about an inch from the end.

^^^^ Twobagger, I have to say that I disagree. I love the thick stiff colon tubes. I find they are much easier to insert and feel where they are inside you. Plus, they don't fold back on themselves anywhere as easily. For my husband and myself, a soft colon tube would be ready for the garbage.

I use and have used silicone, latex and red rubber tubes that range from 1/2" OD to 1 1/4" OD, and I have to say I like the ones in the 3/4" to 7/8" range most of the time, with a wall thickness of 1/8" to 3/16" and I definitely prefer them to have a good amount of stiffness. I have red rubber colon tubes in various sizes from about 10-20 years ago and they are still stiff and terrific. I also have fat old silicone tubes (NOT from OHN) that are wonderfullly firm. The plain latex or gum rubber tubes, are as you say, soft, and it isn't until they are a good thickness that they are appealing to me. The newer red tubes, suck, but that is because they are too soft and don't hold a candle to the stiff red rubber tubes from England made a decade or two ago.

To each his or her own. Everyone should try different things to find what they like best. When you experiment, sometimes you are surprised to find what really pushes your buttons!

Dr E I tried for two hours tonight to turn some gum rubber tubing on itself with a spoon without success. Here's how I did it. First, I cut one small hole two inches from the end of the tubing with a Dremal tool that has a small grinder bit. Next, I inserted a two inch long 3/16 bolt with a half inch OD washer under the head of the bolt. I put some KY lube on the bolt and pushed the bolt into the tubing and through the small hole on the side that I had just made.

By forcing the tubing over the washer while the bolt is inserted through the end of the tubing and pulling the bolt through the small eye hole as an exit, the end of the tubing will turn outside in. My idea took five minutes to complete. Just had a nice enema with it too, after all, I should give it a try, RIGHT? Let the good times flow.

Sorry for being such a newbie but what do I ask for when I go to the medical supply store?

Sorry for being such a newbie but what do I ask for when I go to the medical supply store?

Are you ready? Ask for a colon tube! Just tell them what French size and length you want. Many people here like the 32Fr and get a 30" long tube. If you want a better range of choices, get what you want over the internet.