Are enema enthusiasts above average intellectually?

I think those who have discovered the pleasures of the enema show a greater propensity to be curious about the average person: in my opinion the desire to explore is a manifestation of intelligence.

You're just trying to justify saying you have higher intelligence because you like pumping water up your ass.

Having curiosity and desire to play with the part of your body that gives a lot of pleasure doesn't make you more intelligent.

Being curious is a kid who takes apart a vacuum cleaner because he wants to know how it works, or curious to learn a new language, not playing with your body.

Being curious is a kid who takes apart a vacuum cleaner because he wants to know how it works, or curious to learn a new language, not playing with your body.

@SwitchableSusie Are you equating this kind of curiosity to intelligence? Cause while I didn't take it apart I did put a lawnmower engine together when I was a kid. I got it as a big box of parts.

Yes? Kewl! I be smartz!! 😁

That reminds me of a funny story as a kid and not enema related. My grade school and high school buddy who eventually became a master mechanic and near genius mechanically, took apart his dad's new trimmer mower including the engine when he was 11 and scattered it all over the pool deck. Every nut and bolt. It took him about a week but he put it all back together and it ran when he was done. His dad was some pissed though!!

@SwitchableSusie Are you equating this kind of curiosity to intelligence? Cause while I didn't take it apart I did put a lawnmower engine together when I was a kid. I got it as a big box of parts.

Yes? Kewl! I be smartz!! 😁

I am impressed.

My brother did the same thing with a used snowblower he got when he was a kid. The engine started but stalled when he tried to engage snow. My father bought what I think he called a short block or something like that and he rebuilt the engine. Even having the desire to do a project like that is impressive.

I am impressed.

Even having the desire to do a project like that is impressive. Oh

@SwitchableSusie Thx. My dad had bought an unworking motorcycle from some guy and I noticed the box in his garage. He said it was a lawnmower engine and gave it to us with the bike.

My dad was pretty proud when I got it running, although the bearings were bad so we couldn't really use it.

And now I make enema nozzles and butt plugs!!??

Someone once said people with higher levels of intelligence tend to have more adventurous sex lives, and are more willing to try things ordinary folks might find kinky. So, to some degree, enemas probably fall into that theory. Kinkiest couple I knew were both MD's practicing at Massachusetts General Hospital and working in teaching roles.

In a recent study about sex toys It turns out that students at two of the world’s most prestigious universities, Oxford and Cambridge shelled out a combined $29,000 on sexual paraphernalia last year. This would suggest that the libidos of the highly intelligent are the same, if not slightly higher than, those of average intelligence.

So it is likely enema enthusiasts are at various places on the intelligence scale, those posting here, probably above average, based on the ability to write and communicate.

I think we would all like to believe that whether true or not.

I think people who DON'T take enemas may think people who DO take enemas have LOWER intelligence.

To respond to Switchable, I'll say this... if they think we are into them for reasons people consider quackery like Gerson Therapy and coffee enemas, yes. But how would they feel about us if they knew we are on the sexual side of the equation, enemas for pleasure?

When I was outed a few years ago I was surprised that people were far less judgmental then I thought they would be.

That's how they responded to your face, not what their thoughts necessarily were.

Regarding enemas for sexual pleasure, they might think worse of ones intelligence.

All in all, there is no correlation. Doing something that has pleasure as its reward doesn't take a genius to figure out.

In a recent study about sex toys It turns out that students at two of the world’s most prestigious universities, Oxford and Cambridge shelled out a combined $29,000 on sexual paraphernalia last year. This would suggest that the libidos of the highly intelligent are the same, if not slightly higher than, those of average intelligence.

Did anyone look at how much students at Univ. Of Phoenix spent on sex toys?? Maybe students at Oxford and Cambridge simply have more money at their disposable and can afford more expensive toys. Too many unsubstantiated "studies" and "someone once said" doesn't prove anything. We'd all like think we are smarter - but we're probably not!!!

In a recent study about sex toys It turns out that students at two of the world’s most prestigious universities, Oxford and Cambridge shelled out a combined $29,000 on sexual paraphernalia last year. This would suggest that the libidos of the highly intelligent are the same, if not slightly higher than, those of average intelligence.

Did anyone look at how much students at Univ. Of Phoenix spent on sex toys?? Maybe students at Oxford and Cambridge simply have more money at their disposable and can afford more expensive toys. Too many unsubstantiated "studies" and "someone once said" doesn't prove anything. We'd all like think we are smarter - but we're probably not!!!

I must remember that. That's a great question.

Don’t know w but there are some smart people here so perhaps

Well, I can't say that intelligence has much to do with it, but it's certainly true that the majority of English speakers here can write ok. Definitely not true of other sites, including many political sites.

Most, not all folks on cycling forums (bicycles) are articulate; many people on the trades (welding, etc.) forums are fairly articulate.

The most articulate people I've found, though, are on the various telescope and astronomy forums.

Intelligence and the ability to write with at least a minimum of skill track together, unless the writer has problems with English (dyslexic), or unless they're foreign born.

Plus, of course, it stands to reason that enema devotees would be far less full of s**t than their non-enema counterparts...

I think the intelligence curve is the same for enema enthusiasts as for the general population. Enema fans might be more creative and, let's face it, braver than the average bear.

Go do a google search and use Socrates and the oracle...

Dr. Jerry Knox has done some research, and found that people with higher intellect tend to use enemas more than others. he has wrote a book titled LOVE THINE ENEMAS AND HEAL THYSELF. a MUST READ for enema users. no other book has the info that this one has....

Dr. Jerry Knox has done some research, and found that people with higher intellect tend to use enemas more than others.

Does he back it up with any data? How does he measure intellect? IQ, education, income? How big of a population did he use?

Sounds fishy to me...if he asserts it in the book with no backup, then it is not defensible. Might or might not be true.

Dr. Jerry Knox has done some research, and found that people with higher intellect tend to use enemas more than others.

I can't google and research right now but I'm pretty sure I looked up Knox in the past and he was a quack. Not a scientist, not a real medical Dr. Pushing enemas and diet for some other purpose... books, supplements, his own enrichment.

That said, yes klismophiles are naturally more intelligent! I am one, and I'm smart! Theory proven!!! 😄 😁

I can't google and research right now but I'm pretty sure I looked up Knox in the past and he WAS a quack. ......That said, yes klismophiles are naturally more intelligent! I am one, and I'm smart! Theory proven!!! 😄 😁

Wrong tense - not "WAS" but "IS".

Your argument about klismophiles being more intelligent is much stronger!!! 😃

Jerry Knox is a BA, DC, who owned and operated a colon hydrotherapy clinic for ten years, and treated many patients, including Barium Enemas. I think that those credentials give him just as much knowledge as anyone else on Zity. if you read his books, you will realize that he is much more factual than most. Much of his observations I see as fact from my own personal experience, and his writings touch on deep emotional feelings that no other books on enemas describe. His knowledge comes from experience. I believe that people who attack him on Zity do so out of jealousy, not fact. take the time to read his books, and most of you will agree.. You will learn aspects about enemas and human nature that you wont find in any other writings anywhere...

Does he back it up with any data? How does he measure intellect? IQ, education, income? How big of a population did he use?

Sounds fishy to me...if he asserts it in the book with no backup, then it is not defensible. Might or might not be true.

Writing a book on enemas, he would obviously be appealing to a market of enema users. It would hardly make much sense if he were to dish on enema users in his book. A writer won't sell many books if he explains how below par the readers are. Naturally he has to praise them in some way or another: call their choice healthy and even better to explain it as an intelligent choice and then write a few hundred pages or so of padding and fluffing..

That's how you sell books: making your readership think they are special or know something others don't. It's very flattering to be thought above average intelligent. It is the honey versus vinegar process. You don't belittle people if you want them to buy something from you. You praise and compliment them.

Going to venture a guess that kinky people in general, the ones who are really into it, and strive to pick up techniques, procedures and equipment to improve the enjoyment and expertise of their dark hobbies, would tend toward the right half of the bell curve.

No, it doesn't take a graduate degree to give or receive an enema, or to tie someone up, or to fist them, or enjoy any of the various and sundry other deliciously depraved activities here on Zity. But the people who are interested enough to write about them seem to have an elevated attention to detail; almost a fetish with it you could say...

Oh, and as I've postulated before: there are a LOT of medical people here, in quantities that would seem to over-represent their societal numbers. You can't be a dullard in that profession, at least not for long...

Obviouslly @manybags, you are a devout Jerry Knox fan and that's fine. Several others of us aren't and question his conclusions and that's fine. We'll probably never come together on this. Other threads have addressed whether there really are any health benefits (other than constipation relief) to enemas. There are two sides to that discussion as well.

People who question (not bash) Dr. Knox don't do it out of jealously, they do it because of "lack of fact" to convince us his conclusions are valid. Giving a lot of people colonics doesn't necessarily make a good correlation to judge intelligence.

@Agasmic

There are a group of people here on zity that write a lot of very articulate posts. There are also some who write almost unintelligible posts. A lot of real (and maybe not so real) medical professionals are enema enthusiasts on Zity. Maybe these smart people just post more often so it appears we klismos are brighter and the dumb ones just look at the pictures. Or maybe the folks who join Zity are the upper part of the bell curve of ALL klismophiles.

Klismophiles/BDSM folk might or might not be smarter than the general population. No reason for us not to listen and respect the other's opinion (even though we know in our hearts we are right!)

Manybags may be Jerry Knox himself. "Jerry Knox is a licensed BA, DC, who owned and operated a colon hydrotherapy clinic for ten years, and treated many patients, including Barium Enemas. I think that those credentials give him just as much knowledge as anyone else on Zity. if you read his books, you will realize that he is much more factual than most. Much of his observations I see as fact from my own personal experience, and his writings touch on deep emotional feelings that no other books on enemas describe. His knowledge comes from experience. I believe that people who attack him on Zity do so out of jealousy, not fact. take the time to read his books, and most of you will agree.. You will learn aspects about enemas and human nature that you wont find in any other writings anywhere..."

A licensed B.A.? What is that? And since when are D.C.'s licensed to give barium enemas? What does the inside of your large intestines have to do with your spinal alignment? How many people do you know that list that they have a Bachelor of Arts degree if they have some sort of doctorate? He was a chiropractor, licensed at one time in California, no longer. He listed his office as Vancouver, Washington, across the Columbia River from Portland, OR but neither the State of Washington or Oregon have any record of him being licensed on their websites. And he had a reputation of posting under other names praising Dr. Jerry Knox.

I've seen Knox's book for sale but haven't read it. Wasn't sure if it was worth the price.

One thing that was said many posts ago, that I would like to clarify. Education has very little to do with someones intelligence. Just becasue someone may have gotten though a degree program, (specially today) is of little value to determine how intelligent a person really is. The best way, In my opinion , to measure intelligence would be to look at the decisions one has made in there life, and the outcome. Enemas happens to be a choice we all have made, with little or no associated problems, and obviously some benefits.

A lot of real (and maybe not so real) medical professionals are enema enthusiasts on Zity. Maybe these smart people just post more often so it appears we klismos are brighter and the dumb ones just look at the pictures.

Possibly. But having read these posts for a number of years, as you have, you eventually figure out who's really in the biz and who is a "play doctor/nurse." There are a lot of real ones here.

As for the dim bulbs, can't be certain because for more than a few people on this site English isn't their first language, so there's that. And I suspect there are still far more who lurk but don't post - I know I did for several months before my first one. All of these people may be genius level IQ, or they may be George Castanza tier. We won't know.

I've tried to be open minded and accepting of other ideas etc. But don't try to convince me with "feeling's" - convince me with "facts".

I find it sad that there are some of you that are so quick to try to debunk someone without even reading his work. I have. The assumptions that you make are way off base. If you took the time to read what he has to say, you would see that. The way you jump to conclusions without fact, says a lot about you. That's a shame. His book is a GEM that you would learn a lot from. and,NO, I'm not Jerry Knox, but I would love to meet him. I have much in common with him. Read his book. Then tell me I'm wrong....