Are enema enthusiasts above average intellectually?

Although no genious I consider myself to be an above average IQ wise and a creative (left brained) thinker. I am naturally curious about things and have not been afraid to learn by experiencing what has piqued my curiosity. The folks here at zity seem to be at least articulate and able to put their thoughts into words well. This leads me to conclude that my hypothesis is correct. I was just wondering if you all agree? I have some other personality traits that I believe led me down the path to enema obsession. I will share later if this thread takes off.

I have read an awful lot of posts here that prompts me to sincerely doubt the premise.

A correlation does not equal causation.

On enemas alone, I have my doubts as that can be pretty limiting from my point of view. However, there is scientific evidence that those involved in the world of BDSM tend to be of higher IQ and better adjusted individuals per the norm. And yes, I have something to back that up... Take a read, as Trevor Jacques has done quite a bit of research on this.

http://trevorjacques.com/summaries/cv/

A correlation does not equal causation.

I don't think there is even a correlation between intelligence and enema usage.

On enemas alone, I have my doubts as that can be pretty limiting from my point of view. However, there is scientific evidence that those involved in the world of BDSM tend to be of higher IQ and better adjusted individuals per the norm. And yes, I have something to back that up... Take a read, as Trevor Jacques has done quite a bit of research on this.

http://trevorjacques.com/summaries/cv/

He has a number of publications and most links on that page don't work, but they are all his opinion and full of anecdotes. His books on amazon are all BDSM and sex manuals.

I WANT NUMERICAL ANALYSIS.

Skrinkology papers are mostly worthless opinions.

It is late and will have to find it for you later.

I don't think there is even a correlation between intelligence and enema usage.

I think in this case it is more perceived than real.

I think in this case it is more perceived than real.

Do you mean people want to think they are smarter because they use enemas?

Most people want to think they are smarter than others.

Most people are not very good at evaluating themselves.

Well as P J O'Rouke once put it "The average IQ in America is - and this can be proven mathematically - average."

That reminds me of the guy who said his I.Q. was "almost perfect" at 95. 😁 😁 😁

ROTFLMAO!

Seems we span the gamut. from 150+ IQ down to 80 Don't see where IQ has a direct relationship

Seems we span the gamut. from 150+ IQ down to 80 Don't see where IQ has a direct relationship

Based on some posts I have read here, the range most certainly goes down to less than 80.

I don't remember enough statistics to figure out percentiles in fractions of standard deviations (there are equations to figure that out), but 34% of the population has an I.Q. between 85 and 100. the next standard deviation down from I.Q. 70 to 85 has 13.5% of the population--that's one in every seven people!--so you see, there are a lot of dumb people. 47.5% of the population falls between I.Q. 70 and 100.

Wow!! Since I have learned that enema enthusiasts are above average intellectually, I suddenly felt a boost in my IQ by at least 10-20 points!! NOT!!

I will say that generally speaking that folks that I chat with in zity are really decent and respectful people with only a few exceptions. I count that as much important than one's intellect so far as being a good person.

Same goes for looks. I have several friends that I consider absolutely beautiful due to their friendly and caring personalities, kindness, and loving manner that were not blessed (or is it cursed??) with the more superficial outside beauty appearance. A little off the question but I wanted to express my thoughts. Denise

To amplify on Susie's discussion on IQ distribution. I think our "kink group" here on Zity probably follows a pretty normal distribution - some intellects, some not so much, most - like me (I hope) simply average.

An IQ test score is calculated based on a norm group with an average score of 100 and a standard deviation of 15. The standard deviation is a measure of spread, in this case of IQ scores. A standard devation of 15 means 68% of the norm group has scored between 85 (100 – 15) and 115 (100 + 15). In other words, 68% of the norm group has a score within one standard deviation of the average (100).

Also, 95% of the norm group has an IQ score within two standard deviations of the average. So, 95% of the norm group has a score between 70 (100 – 30) and 130 (100 + 30). This means scores of over 130 only occur in 2,5% of cases. For example, the Netherlands has 16 million inhabitants. Based on chance, only 25 of these inhabitants would have an IQ score of 170. There would only be one person with an IQ score of 180. Only 4 out of 1000 would score at least 140 on an IQ test. A lot of online tests score you 130 or higher relatively easy. These tests often have a different goal, like collecting information for marketing purposes. The classical IQ test and the culture fair intelligence test require a small fee but will give you a reliable and exact IQ score.

People do enemas for lots of different reasons; none of which are related to IQ. And you don't have to be a genius to use enema equipment.

So the answer to the question is: no.

In regards to BDSM, not enemas, if you spend time and digest it, you will see there is some correlation between intelligence and BDSM. I don't know what links are broken as I found the relevant ones without issue.

http://sexresearch.ca/SSSS/PDFs/SSSS_2002_B_McG_Jacques.pdf

http://sexresearch.ca/SSSS/PDFs/AASECTSSSSJacquesBienvenu99.pdf

I tried a few browsers and those links don't open.

Maybe you don't have yours set up to do pdf files... I use Firefox with no issues.

I download and open PDFs all the time. I'm using Firefox and Safari.

It took several seconds and flashed back to the zity screen before going to the site using Firefox. Seems to be OK.

@Master_Dorson

Nevertheless, most people like to think they are smarter than average.

I will agree that BDSM may have a higher I.Q. group of people (or maybe somewhat more creative but not necessarily more intelligent people) than enemaphiles, but I doubt there is any literature or controlled tests that would quantify this.

If anything this is probably more a mix of observer's bias (you remember some things better than others, perhaps you just don't remember all the morons on here?) and that online communities may naturally appeal more to people who like to express themselves with words and therefore appear more intelligent, or at least articulate. There's nothing to indicate that a love of enemas, medfet, etc should correlate with high intelligence.

Apparently I did not make myself clear, I am not comparing BDSM to enemaphiles as you put it. Some would say that those that do enemas could be considered a subset within the BDSM context but not inclusive. Now I could see an discussion that those that find this site and do enemas might be of higher IQ than the norm but I am NOT going to touch that one. I wish Jack McGeorge was still alive because he is the one that told me some other things they discovered in the research. I don't know if his son inherited all his father's files and stuff or not, and yes his son is into BDSM too.

It does not take an above average IQ to give or take an enema, or have kinky or vanilla sex. But an imagination makes the experience more than just the acts themselves. The intelligence has an influence on how the experiences are shared.

I consider myself an average guy. I enjoy conversation with men and women. Sometimes those conversations form relationships where we compare our likes and dislikes for many things. Travel, sports, coins, guns, tastes to name a few. On Zity we explore our sexuality and preferences. Over many years I have interacted with some really low IQ folks I call “basic people”. Then the others whom I consider really learned ie. Smart. Rather than IQ, I place great value on Common Sense. A lot of so called very smart people have very low common sense. So the bottom line, I find most Zity players have a lot of common sense. I’m glad to honor their being here with me. Allowing our bodies to enjoy our preferred fetishes and sharing with others is indeed showing intelligence.

Lance29- you nailed it. I wasnt necessarily referring to IQ. Common sense, curiosity, courage and imagination. That is "smart" enough for me. Some of the smartest people I know can be so stupid.

Maybe not a higher I.Q., but their seems to be a much higher level of formal education among Zity members. Most have a bachelor's degree and many have graduate degrees. Add to that all the medical professionals and we have some very accomplished folks on Zity.

I have met some very smart people here. Does being anal equate to being smart? I think it might. If so I have a PhD in anal studies!!

Maybe not a higher I.Q., but their seems to be a much higher level of formal education among Zity members. Most have a bachelor's degree and many have graduate degrees. Add to that all the medical professionals and we have some very accomplished folks on Zity.

I can't say if intelligence and emema use are connected or not. But in this house we have a high school drop out and one has three and half years of college under their belt but did not graduate. Most might consider, by that information alone there isn't much intelligence but those who know my sub and I are not stupid for lack of a book education.

What may be lacking in education is definitely made up, atleast on the kinky side, by an active mental state.