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I found this site on Google because of an experience I had during my internship physical. This looked like the only place I could talk about this. I'll try to explain my problem, but I have to give a little background info.

A year ago, I did an internship at a 30-employee engineering firm in a small town (under 30k). I was excited about the internship as it was in the same city as my university, and I was scheduled for a drug test and what I thought was going to be a quick check-up with a female doctor before the internship (which paid great....).

When I got to the medical office at 3 pm (on a Thursday or Friday - can't remember), I was greeted by a woman behind the desk who was talking to an older dude in lab jacket. I told her my name and company name and said I was here for my drug test and to get my medical form signed by the female doctor.

I could tell the phrase "medical form" seemed to make the older guy interested in the conversation. Apparently, he was about to leave for the day, and he told the girl he could "see this patient" since the female doctor was dealing with some other issue for another 10 or 20 minutes. I told them I didn't mind waiting, but then the older guy said "you might prefer a male doctor since you are getting a full physical today."

I'm 22 now but had just been 21 for a month in May 2015, so I guess I was naive about the whole process of getting a medical form signed and that it involved a physical. I've had quick baseball physicals but never really had a complete exam.

I really preferred a female doctor, but I was so thrown by him saying I was getting a full physical that I agreed. When I did, he smiled really big and asked the girl to get my paperwork ready and said something like "ok young man I will be seeing you in a few minutes." The girl at the desk said I was lucky because apparently this guy doesn't usually take new patients.

Since the guy was about to leave, his nurse had already gone home. The receptionist took me to a normal office with a desk and books. No examination table or anything. So I immediately thought that the doctor was just going to listen to my chest, give me the drug test and sign my form. She said have a seat and the doctor will be right in. The grey haired doctor spent about 25 minutes asking me every question about my health - including my sex life with my girlfriend. A doctor had never done that before. I obviously looked a little uncomfortable, and the older doctor could see it. It was at this point that it got a little creepy because the doctor then told me I should be completely comfortable and honest with him since he was going to be seeing every inch of me and beside, he said, "we're both men with the same equipment."

He may not have said exactly that but it was close. But when he said it, he was looking really closely at my face. He could probably tell that I was squirming. When I walked in the medical office, I had NO idea that a 55-65 year old man was going to be looking and maybe even touching every inch of my body. Really made me feel creeped out, but I wanted the internship and it was too late to ask for the woman doc.

Anyway, the doctor finished up what seemed like an interrogation and took me to a large white examining room. I noticed a screen, and the doctor handed me a gown and told me to undress completely including my underwear and put on the gown. He said he would be back in a minute, and put on the gown and sat on the table. It turns out I had the gown on backwards but it still covered me except when I sat down. The doctor laughed and said it was supposed to open from the back. But then he handed me like a drape thing to go over my waist and said that was fine.

It was 3:45 on the clock when I walked in the examining room, and the doctor left nothing out while looking at my eyes, ears, mouth, nose, head and neck. He used all sorts of different instruments and did every sort of test for until 4:05 - so like 20 minutes on my head!!! I said "wow you are thorough," and he said he had mostly older established patients so having a young patient come in every once in a while kept him in practice of dealing with healthy patients.

After that, the doctor asked me to lower my gown and expose my chest. Since it was backwards, it was kind of awkward, so he said I could just take it off all together and put the drape over my lap. The doctor kind of gasped a little when he saw my chest - not sure why. I have been playing baseball since I was a kid and you can't tell how cut I am until I take off my shirt. I have seen the reaction a few times but not from a doctor.

Anyway, the doctor spent what seemed like an eternity checking my chest and took what seemed to be an eternity on each of my nipples which are a little larger than average. He also had me put my hands behind my back for a long time and carefully examined my armpits and made notes for some reason - then ran his hands all along my back. At the same time, he was asking me about my various girlfriends. Finally, I looked at the clock. It was 4:25, and told me to lay back on the table and he checked my legs and feet. He spent about 10 minutes on my feet, and I had to kind of tuck in the drape so I wouldnt expose myself to the doctor while he was doing it.

The physical was turning out not so bad but then the doctor asked me to stand up. Before I could even remember that wasn't wearing any underwear, I jumped up - much to the delight of the doctor who looked surprised and smiled broadly. I was surprised too because now I was standing there completely naked in front of the doctor, and I didn't even mean to do it. Before I was about to ask to put on my underwear, he came over to me, asked me to turn around and started examining my spine - moving up and down my body.

When I turned to face the doctor, I had my two hands in front of my private parts. He looked down and laughed and said there was nothing to be modest about since we were both guys and he was about to be "examining everything anyway." I realized this was true and felt pressured to drop my hands to my side - which i did. Then he seemed to take his time having me make different movements while he felt my arms and felt every muscle. But then he kept looking up and down my body when he was examining my arms.

Then he grabbed a stool and gloves and asked me to stand at the end of the table on the step stool. When I did this, my junk was directly in his face, and he gave me what seemed like the most throrough exam I could imagine. When I thought it was over, he grabbed some sort of brochure and said he was going to show me how to check my testicles. This took like 5 or 6 minutes, and he then told me to show him what I learned. So there I was standing on a stool at the end of the table with some old guy staring at me feeling of each of my own balls. Apparently, I didn't do it right, so he moved my hands and showed me how to do it again and then asked me to try it one more time. It was embarrassing but I guess I got it almost right except he said I missed the back portion of my right nut. Then he told me it would be easier to do after each shower.

I was thrilled it was all over and was about to go grab my underwear when he asked me to bend over the table and spread my cheeks apart. I did it, and he just put a flashlight and looked all over and said I did not have any hemorrhoids. Then he told me to get the drape and sit on the table.

When I sat down, he stood up and put his hand on my knee and told me he was about to do a rectal exam on me which he did on every patient when they have a complete physical. It almost felt like he wanted to see my reaction as he was telling me this, and my face had to look 100 shades of unhappy. I told him I didn't really want to have that done, and that's when he walked to the desk and showed me that it was on the form. But when i looked at it, it said it was optional for under 40. Then, the doctor told me he has always done rectal exams on every patient during full physicals and that he was very gentle. I was just floored, but I wanted my form signed. Then he explained to me exactly what happens during a rectal exam, and it made me even more nervous.

Next, he started getting me prepared for the rectal exam - and he almost seemed to take pleasure in my discomfort. Plus it made no sense that he had me lay on my side and took about 5 minutes draping my body with the first drape and a second one which basically framed my behind for the exam. I would have rather just had the exam and gotten it over with. But I was sitting there completely naked while he was arranging the drapes around my butt - when he just told me a few minutes ago that I didn't need to put my hands in front of my privates when I was standing up.

After that, he put some jelly on my backside but then he was having trouble getting his finger in to do the exam. I guess my behind was very tight because I was not wanting this exam and that extended things further. He told me to relax for just a minute and he would be back in to do the rectal exam. That actually made thing worse, because he was gone for five minutes and I was sitting there with my behind to the open air covered in some sort of gel waiting for this old guy to violate my butt. It felt wrong. Finally I just sucked it up and he did the exam but since I was on my side he was staring at my face and looking at my facial expressions the whole time. It was really creepy when he would say "let me know if it hurts. let me know if it hurts. does it hurt? does it hurt?" And then it did hurt a lot as he moved his finger roughly. He was not gentle towards the end of the exam.

I thought the exam was over, but I still had some sort of neurological exam. I insisted on putting on my underwear for this, but he pulled my underwear to my knees while I was laying down when he was testing some sort of reflex in my testicles. At the end of the exam, I felt drained. But then he asked me to get dressed behind the screen and meet him in his office to discuss the exam.

It felt creepy going back into my office as he basically went over every part of my body he examined and told me some healthy things I could do. In my opinion, this doctor either really enjoyed the power aspect of making a young guy submit to his exam or that he enjoyed having seeing a young patients body since he has older patients. Or maybe he kind of liked guys even though he was married. I don't know.

Anyway, I was stuck talking to this guy who had just touched me in places that even my girlfriend had never seen and he was telling me that I was in perfect health but needed to make sure and come in annually. He said the office would schedule it. As I was about to get up, the doctor and I both remembered that I had not taken the drug test. So I had to go back in the room, unzip my pants while the doctor watched me pee into a cup. The doctor was right - he had seen everything, and I felt like I had been molested.

Since I live in a small town, I see the doctor occasionally at the grocery store, and I got a full time job at the same company I interned for last year. I graduate in a few days, and I saw the doctor at the gas station. He asked when I was graduating, and I said in a few days. He asked about jobs, and I said I had taken a job with the same company he had examined me for the internship. The doctor looked like I had given him a Christmas present.

He said. "Well, I guess I will be seeing you soon on my examining table since you are already set up as my patient" But I told him that I had scheduled my new hire physical with the female doctor since he was so busy. That seemed to shock the doctor and he said he had time and that he would switch the exam if I wanted him to and that he had the time. I'm a nice guy and momentarily forgot how bad the other exam was (and was trying to be nice), so I quickly said "oh yeah of course I want you to do it. You're really thorough."

Of course, now I regret it, because I now have to dread getting a complete physical from him on Monday June 6 at 3 pm, and it will probably be the same type of thing as before. I can't cancel it since I start June 15 at the new job. But I am wondering if the doctor was really enjoying my physical sexually - which would not be good. Or if he just likes me as a person. I'm a guys guy and friends always want to go to the gym with me, play baseball or go swimming. Whatever the case, this old doctor enjoys giving me physicals. Or maybe I'm wrong and he just enjoys his job and kind of likes me too. In any case, I am nervous about that Monday afternoon and still don't know whether it's right that I am nervous.

JTMac

Chaperone idea is great. I had no clue this was even an option. I will have my girlfriend come along.
Still dreading it, but it won't be bad with her there. Thanks for the advice.

Your girlfriend is the perfect chaperone. You don't need a parent. You don't need a bud. A girlfriend is close enough to a significant other which has every right to be there if you want her to, you don't even ask if she can come along. It's "Oh, this is my girlfriend so&so as an intro. If he says she can wait outside, YOU say "No, it's ok. She can be with me". The decision should be YOURS not theirs.

As for the folks who think he was guilty of criminal activity, nothing described in the original post indicates any specific wrongdoing. Everyone's intrepreting, speculating, & concluding here. No specific violation was mentioned. A physical exam was performed, parts of it under questionable necessity. And the doctor's demeanor is under suspicion at best at this point.

BB1995, please give Jason Del this doctor's contact info. Jason sounds like he would like to schedule a physical with him.

I echo Examdoc's post "Call the office and tell the receptionist you need to reschedule. Ask what days he has available and use that information to figure out what days he may be out of the office and then schedule when he is not available. He sounds like a creepy guy and I would try to avoid him."

That's the best advice here, i think.

n/a

I think the original post was delusional. Such behavior would have prompted action by authorities long ago.

This may be true but such incidents need to be reported first. Perhaps nobody has taken the initiative out of fear of retaliation.

BaseballPlayer1995

I had my physical June 6 for work, and everything turned out fine.

Thanks for all the advice.

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I think that the red flag for me was the doctor/patient history discussion, the specific questions, the visual reactions. This would be when someone who had such a proclivity, would test out his options before actually engaging in them. So if a reader, as patient, feels uncomfortable with the conversation, he/she might be wise to either request a chaperone or end the appointment.

SoCalMedFet

Certainly sounds pretty fetishistic.... I guess there are worse things than to be the subject of another's fantasy... Tho if you really do feel violated (and aren't seeking that feeling again) you might want to check out another doc in another town... If not tho, I look forward to hearing about the next appointment

kennypan

To me, the motivation for this doctor is pretty obvious. He spotted you, and overheard that you needed a physical. Not knowing first hand your appearance, how good looking you might be, etc. I would imagine what caught his attention was your demeanor. You talk about being a baseball player. You obviously looked like an athlete. Possibly you gave off an air of self-confidence and masculinity.

Now, being a MedFet doctor, I totally can relate with the doctor. I also have a friend who s a REAL doctor, but who has a medical fetish, mostly with younger males. The first thing a doctor who has these feelings is attracted to is a young man with the attributes I have described: self-confident, masculine, macho, etc. The goal of this doctor is to take a patient who fits this description and try to fulfill his fantasy, which is to put this guy in a submissive situation. Think about it . . . What better way to do this than to make you take off ALL your clothes, give you a gown and/or drape to accentuate the fact that you are completely naked and vulnerable. Now, take this macho dude and start fondling his "junk". No REAL man is going to let another guy do this. Right? But the doctor is telling you it is absolutely necessary, and he does it to ALL his male patients. If you express discomfort, he says something like "I perform this same exam on all males". Suddenly, you're on the defensive, and you have to prove that you are just like ALL guys! Then, when he informs you about the rectal exam, he deliberately procrastinates and looks for excuses or reasons to prolong the anticipation and exam. Even though most people know that a prostate exam is a quick insertion of the finger, and no more than a minute inside the rectum. Yet, while the doctor has his finger up your butt for what seems like an eternity, while he is constantly trying to assess your reaction and embarrassment with comments and perhaps movements inside you that cause you to squirm or moan, you are totally confused, and trying to understand why you feel so humiliated and violated.

Yet when the exam is over, you get dressed, walk slowly out to the receptionist's desk to finalize paperwork, etc., you are feeling totally embarrassed, not knowing exactly why. All the way home, and all evening at home, you are constantly reliving the ordeal, and trying to understand why you are feeling so embarrassed about a "simple" physical exam.

Have I managed to describe the feelings of a guy who felt humiliated and embarrassed by a physical exam, but didn't know why?

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I can say that I know as fact that a doctor hired by UPS, which is very controlling with all aspects of the business, deliberately paced the physicals required for work. He chose the strip and go approach, starting with neutral clothing, shoes, socks, but moving on, shirt, undershirt, pants, underwear, each time allowing the male employee to think that the exam would be cursory, until it became more and more intimate, prolonged. And he knew that drivers couldn't do anything.

Jasondel1212

I could not agree more

kennypan

I have noticed that a lot of people have been questioning the legitimacy of the testicular brush test That test IS a legitimate test, although it is usually done with a pen or similar type object, which the doctor runs down the upper thigh. The normal response is the testicles will move. There is a physical exam on You'Tube where a young man is lying on the exam table with his underwear on, and then the doctor has the young man lower his underwear. The doctor then does this testicle response exam.

A lot of people have also uggested the patient request a chaperone, or bring one with him. Maybe it's just me, but if I am going to be receiving a genital or rectal exam, the last thing I would want is anther person watching it happen. The bad part of this exam is . . . nothing the patient described could be proven as being unethical or illegal.

Rockdoc

I think you are referring to the cremasteric reflex. It certainly is a legitimate procedure. See link below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremasteric_reflex

Jds4med

I think you are referring to the cremasteric reflex. It certainly is a legitimate procedure. See link below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremasteric_reflex

It's a valid test, but a neurological test (not urogenital). It's unnecessary unless evaluating a neuro problem. Lower extremity reflexes and sensory tests should be more than adequate for simple screening exams.

choosinwhite

I agree with the others that the doctor probably felt a certain surge of power over you.

n/a

I would count my lucky stars if I stumbled upon a doctor so thorough. The last few physicals I've received have lasted about 5 minutes and the doctors don't even want me to get undressed.

And the creepy factor and awkward dialog would make me even more excited to see him....

treacypegs

I would love to have this happen to me. Ppl on here would probably pay good money for this treatment. Look at the bright side and enjoy it.

djboy

Just be a good young man and submit to the exam. Its good for you to be fully checked out!