Deep colon play help

So I'm fairly experienced at anal play, mainly width (3.5 inch diameter is about my limit thus far) and have recently started with depth play.

My goal is to be able to receive a female fist/hand beyond the elbow, but I'm having trouble envisioning how I need to work up to this.

So far my main toys are,

Crackstuffers 40mm/1.6" depth trainer at 27.5" --- http://www.crackstuffers.com/dt40.html

a double ended dildo which goes from just under 1" at the small end to about 2" at the large end being 22" in length --- http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=31082

a 2.25" diameter 16" dildo --- http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=8553

Now the 22" goes in small end first all the way no trouble, and I can even use another dildo whilst it's inserted so it probably goes in 25"+ maybe. If I turn it around and go with the 2" end I don't have much luck past about 18 inches.

The crackstuffers depth trainer I can get up to the ribbed handle section ( so maybe about 24-25") and then it gets uncomfortable, I'm having trouble envisioning which part of the colon this is reaching and stopping at, I've seen these things in videos going in way beyond the full length.

The 2.25" x 16" dildo doesn't get very far at all, I'm wondering if this is a flexibility issue and it's not bending very well.

I'm struggling to understand how to increase girth with the depth when consequently as things get thicker they get less flexible, ideally I'd like to work up to a bigger Crackstuffers depth trainer but they're expensive and I don't want to waste money if I'm not able to take it.

Any advice, maybe Susie?

I'm also not a fan of enemas, not because it's an unpleasant feeling but because for some reason it can take a really long time for me to fully expel, which can get very boring and tiring not to mention time consuming. So far I seem able to "be clean" just from regular emptying of the bowel, I can depth play without an enema and the toys are clean.

You say you are not a big fan of enemas. I think that any deep anal penetration will pretty much require you to have a clean colon. I have done some deep colon play with a 75fr colon tube that is about 30 inches long and I only do so after I have done a series of enemas. Even before I start play with the large nozzle it takes time to clear my colon to be able to advance my smaller colon tube up into my descending colon. I am always amazed when the tube just stops and seems to get stuck but then after expelling more of the enema I can then advance further up.

Trying to push high into the colon that has poop in it can lead to injury. That is why you have to have a very clear colon before you get a colonoscopy so the scope does not hit a stopping point (poop) deflecting the scope into the wall of the colon causing a puncture.

If you start experimenting with enemas before you do your anal play I think you will have more success and enjoyment and be able to achieve your goals.

First success, taking the full length of the 1.5" diameter depth trainer!!

It just needed a bit more deeply injected lube and some patience, the first 24" slip in really easy now with the whole 28" going in shortly after.

Have now ordered a 2" diameter depth trainer, can't wait.

While the difference between 1.5 and 2 inches doesn't look like much holding it in your hand, you'll see when you try to get the same length up your butt the increased volume and decreased ability for a 2 inch dong to turn a corner will make this a totally different ballgame.

Hi Susie thanks for your reply.

I'm no stranger to 2 inches, I've already been playing with something similar, unfortunately it's a 2 inch dildo and I don't like it's shape (typical penis design) and it's material (much less supple than the depth trainer) hopefully the more smooth and supple nature of the forthcoming toy will be preferable.

I'm not expecting to get it all in, in fact that isn't my aim, 28 inches is plenty I think. My goal is hopefully get to around 2.5-3 inches so I can take an arm, all be it one belonging to a petite female!!

There's a great video from a guy calls himself 'Dobbelfist' floating around the usual XXX video sites, he takes an arm to the shoulder(!) it's so hot I can barely think about it!

Oh my!!!!!! I've never heard of or seen a Dobbelfist video before. (Although I don't know how that is possible. 😃) I envy this guy. How I would love to experience that feeling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've had trouble getting past about 16" with a normal 1 1/2" double dildo. But I've had much better luck using the 20" anal beads similar to this one http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=33968

the large beads give a good stretch and the thinner sections make it super flexible.

Also a great gadget for practicing deep anal play is also a clowns bread and butter. The trusty clown party balloon. They're super cheap and when filled with water they're long, soft and flexible. Great if you're having trouble getting around the bend.

I've had trouble getting past about 16" with a normal 1 1/2" double dildo. But I've had much better luck using the 20" anal beads similar to this one http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=33968

the large beads give a good stretch and the thinner sections make it super flexible.

Thanks for the reply. I don't seem to have much trouble with the 1 1/2" /40mm right up to it's maximum length of 28", although the last 3-4 inches are a challenge.

I'm still finding out the best suitable lube, I had a session today where I just only had J-Lube to hand and to be honest it wasn't the most pleasant of experiences, I'm finding silicon lubes are far and away the best for me and deep play. Also Albolene is awesome stuff.

. . . . I'm still finding out the best suitable lube. . . .

THERE IS NO " BEST " LUBRICANT

The preferences for lubes are as varied as sexual positions, wines and flavors of ice cream.

Everyone has to try them all and see what they like.

What is one person's favorite can easily be another person's most hated.

Someone's favorite lube for anal toys may be their most hated for vaginal sex and vice-versa. People often prefer different lubes for various activities.

I obviously meant the best lubricant for me, I know there's no such thing as "the best".

This is going well, the 2" now glides in up to around the 20" mark, which is great progress from where I started with it. The 1.6" is a nice warm up toy and goes the full 28" now without much friction.

I am starting to wonder where this will stop though, I'm already eyeing up bigger diameter depth trainers, I wonder how big I need to go to be able to take a slender female arm past the elbow?

Oh, and I'm still having better play sessions without an enema beforehand, just something about it makes deep playing much much more difficult.

Just an update to this, I've progressed so that the 2" is where I start now and the 2.3"-2.4" diameter dildo is what I use to finish myself off with and can take that to the hilt. I'm now seriously looking at another of the depth trainers of 75mm/2.75" diameter to hopefully be able to take an arm elbow deep, or deeper!

Some observations that would be cool to get some answers for. Since moving up in diameter and trying more frequent enemas I seem to be getting prolonged periods of trapped wind, constipation and as it clears up then either trapped fluid coming out (lube possibly?) or just diarrhoea and wet farts (sorry for the graphic nature) for up to a week or more after a session, this makes for a more annoying rather than uncomfortable periods of time.

I'm wondering what is happening here and how to help alleviate it? I'd really like to carry on with this line of anal play as it's amazing, but the aftermath is is starting to putting me off.

The lubes I use are a mixture of a silicon lube and Albolene as I don't find water based lubes particularly very good.

My "problems" are clearing up, it seems to have been constipation related, I'm not sure of the mechanics of it all or why it's happened but it's definitely related to deep play.

Just wondering, are my choice of lubes bad for deep play? I'm wondering that even if I don't get on with water based lubes whether I shouldn't switch to them for health reasons?

It's been over 2 weeks since I've been able to play due to this which is really frustrating obviously. Would a post play session enema help any and if so what to use? I only use plain warm tap water at the minute as I didn't want to induce any sort of irritation.

Lubes are one of personal preference.

What one person says is the best, others might positively hate.

My husband and I and other women and men I have fisted generally prefer water based lubes best, others will like oil based.

Is there anything in oil based/silicone lubes that aren't the best for deep colon play?

My issues still haven't cleared up, I'm thinking I need to get a Doctor's appointment, I've been reading up on impaction and wondering if this may be my problem. It's a shame because I do enjoy this kind of play and my issues have only come to light since I started experimenting with it. Up until now I've been as regular as clockwork and never once in my whole life suffered from any form of constipation, never mind this level of it.

Any of the lubes you or I mentioned are fine.

It sounds like your body is trying to tell you something and YOU KNOW what that something is, except YOU AREN'T LISTENING.

DON'T do something stupid and wind up in the hospital.

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When I was younger I did gymnastics and I was really good at tumbling, uneven bars and floor exercises. I was mediocre on the balance beam. I really wanted to be good at that too, but I wasn't. My point is, just because some people can do certain things with their body doesn't mean you can.

3.5 inch diameter,,,i applaud you

Well whatever the problem was is clearing up, I had a session both yesterday and the day before and all has been well. I'm not sure what the problem was but I'm always cautious as to what I'm doing with this, I never push too far, I'm pretty adept at interpreting what my body is telling me.

The 17", 2.3" diameter dildo I was having a bit of trouble with slips in nice now all the way to the base. Not sure what size to try next, these things are short on choice and high in cost.

Susie,

Just a question for you or anyone else knowledgeable. You said any of the lubes mentioned by Sherlock or you are fine. Though I've never used anything but water-based lubes so far, I thought silicone/oil based lubes were contraindicated for silicone toys, or am I just reading this incorrectly? Thanks,

Eric

Silicone lubes are contraindicated for silicone toys.

Silicone dissolves silicone.

Which is odd because I'm sure most of my toys are silicone and yet the ID Glide Milenium lube is also a silicone lube and I've not had any problems.

Obviously some sort of discrepancy with content of silicone either in toy or lube.

I have a 26" fr150 colon tube plus a HUGE fr175 that is 22" long

Really looking ofrward to sinking these in all the way

^^^ Geez that must be drainpipe size . . . considering 1FR approximates to 0:33mm

If FR scale is D (mm) - Fr / 3 then FR175 is 58mm diameter or 2.3", which isn't that wide TBH, not compared to an arm or something.

@Sherlock - thinks ya might have missed the anal-ogy. ."drainpipe". .Either way it's one big sucker. .LOL

Keep a good grip on the double ended toy.... had to try and remove one of these things before (profession experience). Managed to slip up into the sigmoid. Not an emergency or surgery anyone wants. Vids always make it look so easy to expel.

I've not had any issues with getting anything out. yet....

Have had the 22" double ender in then carried on with another toy, but I can push the double ender out without too much trouble. But to be honest I don't do it too often because it's not helping with my goal. I want deep girth!

Hi I am new to anal play and I love it I am up to 2"rond toy and wont to go big whet is saife

Tazdog, I'm relatively new here and not an anal depth penetration expert, but you might have a look at

http://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=94391;msg=764122

which has several members discussing their preferences and experiences trying to safely penetrate themselves with very long toys. Good luck and play safe,

Eric