Would this be legal?...

If I started a home based business of giving enemas to women only for a fee.

DON'T DO IT. You will be practicing medicine without a license. If you just give them enemas for fun, that's okay, but if you collect a fee, it would be illegal.

I wouldn't take the risk. You could end up with an undercover officer at your home and get busted. Best to be safe than incarcerated and having your reputation damaged.

Just my thoughts...

Chalet

Not sure if it is legal or not, but I used to see a hydrocolon tharapist that used a hydro-sans machine to give colonics for a fee. Maybe if you got certified & licensed it would make it legal.

This is one of those things that can vary a lot from state to state. It may be legal in one state and in another, doing the same thing would be practicing medicine without a license or something similar.

The Health Dept. would be knocking on your door for sure.

The paranoid will survive.

oh I almost forgot the Health Dept. closed down one of our best strip clubs because the pole the girls used didn't get cleaned after each dance.

Many years ago in the yellow pages under massage was an ad in caps "massage and colon therapy". I called for an appointment and went there many, many times with little fear of being busted. That was then, now is much different.

Thumbs down on this one

Simon

It's illegal. You'd be busted for practicing without a license. Most states, if not all, have requirements to be certified as a colon hydrotherapist.

Hi again, the reason I mentioned the Health Department in my last response is that that data from the Health Dept. gets published in the News Paper weekly.

What reputation and public humilation!

Simon

Once you let the concept of 'fee' or any other exchange or quid pro quo to enter the equation, you are treading upon the sacred ground of government. Not the government that was earlier called "Uncle Stupid". In fact it would be an Uncle State government that would create the problems, in the form of the Health Department or whatever bureau regulates and licenses many/most non medical therapies in that state.

In this case, such a bureau or agency amounts to an undisclosed taxing authority that will jealously pursue any entity offering said service(s) without having rendered unto Caesar. Whether they perform such service(s) with or without efficacy, cleanliness or even basic safety is entirely secondary to the avarice of the state.

For those not grasping the concept here: simply ask yourself if you would like your state motor vehicle bureau to tax and oversee enema administration.

Nuff said I think.

Would it make any difference if you paid the ladies to take an enema? Or would that be considered prostitution? But people like The Collector pay women to be filmed taking enemas in his home. So how would this be much different? You would be paying them to take an enema but just not filming it to sell for profit. I'm sure there are some legalities involved but it seems like a lot of gray area to me.

I wonder if recieving a tip, in a tip jar at the door. Or a donation to cover cost is ok.

^^^^That's treading a very fine line.

I think a professional nurse or colon therapist has a lot more legal cover than an amateur who just wants to give enemas for money, and enjoyment. Thankfully, Texas seems to be one of the few, or the only, states to ban non-prescribed colonics.

If non-prescribed enemas had been made illegal years ago, millions of our moms would have been prosecuted. Our family doctor did tell my mom, while I looked on, to give me an enema, but she didn't wait for permission other times.

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Would it make any difference if you paid the ladies to take an enema? Or would that be considered prostitution? But people like The Collector pay women to be filmed taking enemas in his home. So how would this be much different? You would be paying them to take an enema but just not filming it to sell for profit. I'm sure there are some legalities involved but it seems like a lot of gray area to me.

[/quote] Excellent reply Melissa with the Collector ( have also bought from him ) side note. when I wanted to sell C's videos I had to make a disclaimer that the videos were not duplicated. Something about "copy right law." And yes.. "grey area." dupagedoug

Do you really believe that women would knock on your door? The police surely would! 😎

Ginnie, I have had Colonics In about 6 or 8 different States and never once inserted the nozzle, or ran the machine. I thought that was the reason we pay for a colonic.

In many states, a colon therapist can give the colonic, but not necessarily insert the nozzle. A nurse can only do invasive procedures on the order of a doctor. An enema is absolutely considered invasive. In a hospital, if you get an enema, it is because the doctor either specifically ordered it or stated "enemas PRN" in the patient's chart.

If you just give the ladies enemas and there is no exchange of money, you are just doing it for fun/sex/foreplay, and no laws are broken.

Definitely illegal in California, and at least technically illegal for a nurse to give an enema without a doctor's order. The last CA colonic therapist told me that they were now required to have the patient make the insertion, but she went ahead and did it for me. She also gave me enemas in lieu of colonics after the first couple of visits (I had a bag sent to her from Shopinprivate.)

I've had colonics in four states and the therapists in all of them inserted the speculum. One even lubricated my anus with her gloved finger, but not in a sexual

way. Of course, with the open system you insert the nozzle yourself by sliding on it, so that may go around state restrictions on penetration.

I am in Northern Calif and have been to several colon therapists. All but one inserted the nozzle themselves. I think this is part of what I pay for legal or not. One female therapist even did an anal/rectal exam on me before inserting the nozzle. I throughly enjoyed this.

I would hope this would be legal! It sure wouldn't be fun if I had to do it myself.I can do that at home.

Now on the flip side to that. If you went to school and got your educatiion in CHT Colon Hydro Therapy and your state allowed CHT's to practice as Michigan does, then it woul be deamed legal. Now another catch is, you would be descriminating if you advertized females only. It's like my massage practice, if I said appts for females only I would be in trouble with other groups. This is an oberservation.

I thought about getting certified in Colon Hydro Therapy, and yes the Health Depratment WILL come and inspect you many many many times. I know a lady who does this in michigan, she gets regular visits from them. Pard my typo's long night in the E.R. and that does not mean enema room. 😢

Darn, here I thought I was on to a good homebased stay at home business. For me it would have been for the guys. I guess I can't help the economy grow, or anything else for that matter. LOL

I would do it for free And I wouldn’t be telling every one on my block.

Why would any male want to charge a female for an enema anyway,I would do the enema for free as long as she brought in her on stuff,it would be my pleasure,any takers?

I wouldn't even think of charging a lady. It would honor me to be graced by her presence and for allowing me to share in her most intimate secrets.

Speaking from a Canadian perspective "small business" laws vary from province to province and I therefore assume the same might well be true south of the border from state to state. Here any home based business must have a "business license" and of course declare the income and pay taxes on it.

As well if your business produces a flood of people coming to your home for the service there could well be residential zoning by-laws restricting a "retail" business in a residential area.

Finally as other have suggested, the service being offered, in this case enemas, might require a practioners lisence of some type. In Ontario for example one can not advertise themself as a massage "therapist" without the necessary accreditation.

The BOTTOM line...dont charge, do it for fun !!

I personally went through training, and got certified to become a colon hydrotherapist. That is legal to do and to charge for. Giving enemas wouldn't be!

And there are only two states that require a license to be a colon hydrotherapist, Arizona and Florida. Basically if I remember, about an additional 8, maybe 16 hours of training to pass the test and get licensed.

And even in those states that don't require a license, we were all advised through the class, to obtain insurance!

Basically about the same as nurses would have, for the most part underwritten through one big company, and back then, not really expensive, at about $100.00 a year.

In Illinois, most professions are regulated by the Department of Professional Regulation... From doctors, nurses, lawyers, locksmiths, security installers and guards, even down to those that do 'fingernails'... All in all, about 100 professions, which you have to take a test for, be licensed and insured.

I'm surprised, but so far doing colonic irrigation's, or being a colon hydrotherapist, hasn't made it to that 'list' yet.

And basically 'anyone' can be trained to do these. Typically a clinic would send one person to the school for the training, then that person would come back and train others at the clinic. And that's legal!

Then being a 'male' offering such services to a female, you're asking for trouble! All it will take is being 'accused' of improper behavior, and you'll be spending 'thousands' in legal fees trying to defend yourself!

If you have an established business of doing colonics, have an established customerbase, 'and' are insured, you're much more protected!

How often have you heard about dentists being accused, and sued, for 'taking advantage' of a female patient while she is gassed?

And they have a lot more to loose!

No offence to women out there, but it's just all to easy for a female to 'just accuse' a man of rape, or some kind of abuse, for you to wind up in jail for a day or two, then trying to defend yourself, with an expensive attorney, in court.

If you want to pursue this, get trained a a 'colon hydrotherapist', then you can charge a fee for your services. But some advice... don't expect too many female clients! And if you open up such a business, you're obligated to take on male patients as well, or face discrimination issues!

This is a historic note more than a direct response to the inquiry, but I read a newspaper story about exactly the giving of enemas or colonics without a license - in one of the Maryland suburbs of DC maybe twenty years ago. A guy was arrested and charged with practicing medicine without a license, and brought to trial. The judge threw the case out with choice comments about how he would otherwise have to lock up his mother and grandparents, as they had probably given a lot more enemas than the accused had. He clearly considered an enema a practice of everyday hygiene rather than a medical procedure.

I doubt that judges would be as inclined to view things this way today, though.

-jillie

"In many states, a colon therapist can give the colonic, but not necessarily insert the nozzle. A nurse can only do invasive procedures on the order of a doctor. An enema is absolutely considered invasive. In a hospital, if you get an enema, it is because the doctor either specifically ordered it or stated "enemas PRN" in the patient's chart."

Nurses aren't even allowed to administer oxygen without a doctor's order because it's considered an invasive procedure AND medication. Some doctors have standing orders that allow for oxygen without their direct approval, but otherwise, nurses cannot give O2 by a nasal cannula without the doctor's permission. Crazy, but that's the way it is.