MedFet Attitudes By Country

Ladies and gents, I've wondered about something.

In which country or culture due you think the medical staff might be the most amused, understanding, or tolerant of a patient's ( or even a doctor / nurse's ) enjoyment during a legitimate, routine exam or procedure? I'm guessing that the USA, with its Puritanical attitudes, obsession with political correctness, and the fear of lawsuits, is at or near the bottom of that list. I suspect that a country like France or Germany might be at the opposite end of the spectrum.

I personally see nothing wrong with a medical staffer and patient mutually enjoying the moment if there is a mutual attraction and a solid rapport between them, as long as discretion, common courtesy, and good taste are maintained.

Interesting question, but I doubt there is any way to ever find out short of conducting a valid and substantial sociological survey, with all the (expensive) trimmings.

One possible roundabout manner might be to survey the prevalence of medfet porn per country and then deduce that the higher the percentage of medfet material, the greater the expected tolerance per country. But with internet that knows no national borders this might just be an exercise in futility. In any case, if you went by this method then countries like Japan, the Czech Republic, Russia and the USA would be high on the list. They all have companies located within their borders that produce noticeable amounts of medfet material.

But I doubt it means anything. I would bet that this question is something that can only be addressed on an individual and anecdotal level, doctor by doctor or nurse by nurse.

I do hope that others weigh in though. I'd like to hear some more insights.

Once again the specter of sexualization between a medical professional and a patient has arisen. I can't obviously speak for other societies than my own but in the U.S. It's rare and it's also unethical. Check out the following.

http://m.acog.org/Resources-And-Publications/Committee-Opinions/Committee-on-Ethics/Sexual-Misconduct?IsMobileSet=true

I hear ya, Liquidsky.

It's just that I've read stories from some older folks ( particularly guys ) who grew up in the 50s, 60s, and early 70s, and they all follow a rather common trend. It seems like back then, female doctors and nurses were much more casual, good-humoured, and light-hearted about working with an obviously aroused young male patient then they would be nowadays.

Sorry Iluvladydocs. I don't know about nurses but lady physicians tended to be much more uptight than now. They were outnumbered by males in the field and more than a little beleaguered. When I began medical school in 1969 there was an influx of women becoming doctors and they were much more relaxed. The women enjoyed more attention then from male physicians because there were fewer of them. I do agree that the threats of law suits and regulations have made everyone more reticent now. Perhaps that's because when I was a resident a more youthful climate prevailed. Also the sixties had just passed and things were all a little looser. I'm just an old fart now. Ah yes, days gone by.

When I began medical school in 1969 there was an influx of women becoming doctors and they were much more relaxed. The women enjoyed more attention then from male physicians because there were fewer of them. I do agree that the threats of law suits and regulations have made everyone more reticent now. Perhaps that's because when I was a resident a more youthful climate prevailed. Also the sixties had just passed and things were all a little looser. I'm just an old fart now. Ah yes, days gone by.

It does seem like during the freewheeling '70s and innocent 80's, an older, sophisticated woman MD COULD have a little harmless fun with her young, horny, inexperienced male patients without fear of any sort of backlash. Thanks to shark attorneys and bloodthirsty prosecutors, I think those days are over- at least in the United States.

It just occurred to me that when I was younger, I kind of fucked up. When I was in my late teens and early 20s, my mom had really been on my ass about being more proactive regarding my health. She even offered to make me an appointment with HER family practice physician, and maybe make her my doc as well. I met Dr. O once at one of my mom's appointments. Dr. O was an attractive white lady with pale skin, blue-green eyes, light brown hair in a pixie cut, and a really cute face. She had perky little boobs and a pert round ass poking from beneath her scrubs.

She could have been MY doctor. Unfortunately, I was too young, stupid, and preoccupied with my own pursuits to follow up on it. Oops. My mom was later assigned a female East Indian doctor who she couldn't stand.

To elaborate on the nurse subject I should add the following. Early in my career the nurses wore white uniforms with short skirts. They were just dynamite. I previously posted that once when a patient with a trach had a respiratory arrest while we were making rounds in the ICU. One of the more dedicated nurses jumped up on the bed to give him mouth to trach breathing. She gave us all a full view of her crotch covered only in pantyhose. The view was spectacular. If only I'd had time to watch. I had to dash to the head of the bed to intubate him. When I finished I returned to find my two interns in a bemused state. She was spectacular said the one going into GYN. Furry too. Now they all wear scrubs which are far more practical but less intriguing. I guess I've become a dirty old man.

Agracier: The fact that companies producing SM and medical porn operate in the Czech Republic may have less to do about culture than about lenient legislation and cheap labor costs. My Austrian friends tell me that, across the border in the Czech Republic, there are prostitutes catering to Austrians - this may say more about Austrian hypocrisy than about Czech mores.

I've read blog postings from female French physicians who were (seldom) confronted with patients with a medical fetish - for instance wanting a rectal exam without a medical reason to. They seemed annoyed by the experience.

I think it all depends on the level of malpractice issues. In Russia, for example, it is very difficult for a doctor to get into trouble due to the low standards of practice. But that's now going into a totally different territory.

ILuvLadyDocs: Back then, lady doctors were few and far between, and always ran the risk of being mistaken for nurses or having patients call out for a "real" doctor. I suspect that any sexual allusion would have ruined their credibility, already low due to sexism. This is why I understand why LiquidSky says that they were more "uptight".

ILuvLadyDocs: Regarding France, my impression is that female professionals are fed up with patients making lecherous comments or sexual allusions, so I would expect most female physicians to be quite intolerant about solicitations from patients.

Legal issues may be less threatening than in the US, but they should not be discounted. Some medical professionals have been prosecuted and sentenced for sexual assault or rape... and even without a criminal conviction, it is possible to be prohibited from practicing medicine if inappropriate acts have been conducted.

I have news for all of you, it's possible here in the states for a medical professional to be prosecuted and sentenced for sexual assault or rape without a criminal conviction as well. Most of you have heard me talk about the "event" that happened with Doc and myself. Well a division of the medical board was going to press statutory rape charges against Doc because he had sex with a patient. Problem is that patient was ME, I was his girlfriend FIRST! I put up the argument that it was me who was traveling the 600 miles to see him, not the other way around. And I would think that if someone was getting raped they wouldn't travel 600 miles every 4-6 weeks to their abuser. Well they came back with the argument that I had lost my right to consent because he had touched me medically.

They ended up not pressing charges against him. I was willing to fight for that with all I had. If anyone was getting raped it was Doc, lol not me.

See medical boards and divisions of said boards and nursing boards and what not are their own entity. They have their own laws and legal system. They are self governing. So if you find yourself in front of one do NOT take a lawyer with you who does NOT specialize in matters of the board as it's a whole different ballgame. Trust me

Now I know I have left many of you scratching your head and thinking how is this possible, what the hell actually happened concerning the "event". All will be revealed eventually. It's mind blowing to say the least. Just be careful with whom you play.

Mashie

OMG Mashie how correct you are. The California Medical Board is known for how draconian it is.

Mashie: Out of curiosity, how did they know about it, without some complaint ?

A person from this board was invited by Doc and myself to come play with us. Doc knew her outside of the kink world and knew for for a year or so. For about 4 months before we actually met I was in constant contact with her and told her, outlined for her exactly how we played, our rules, what we would allow and not. You know the normal stuff.

She left us about 2 am on Sunday. Doc got a call that same Tuesday from his board, which means after she drove the 14 hours back to her house she immediately notified the board. So less than 48 hours after she left Doc was on his way up to the board. That was amazingly quick. Were we set up, yep almost without a doubt. She launched the complaint against Doc. She had emails, a verbal testimony, and pictures. That fast! Sad thing is, Doc never even touched her, I did. She left happy and was in a great mood and was falling over herself thanking us for the great time. She was not harmed or anything. Her complaint was launched because, and I quote, "I am worried about them and I am trying to protect them from themselves." Yes I swear that's what she said.

Doc and I play hard. We are both medical professionals, have a real professional setting in which to play and are fully competent to play with real medical things, and in case of an emergency we know how to fix it should something like that ever happened. She knew exactly what and how we played before she even got in the car to come play with us. Doc and I are big dogs, or used to be before she took away our innocence. You know how the saying goes, "if you can't run with the big dogs then stay on the porch."

Mashie

@ Mashie- I'm intrigued and can't wait to hear the details.

@ Pecan Nutjob- I'm not really talking about perv male patients making a failed attempt at seducing their female physician, but rather female healthcare staffers taking a few subtle liberties with male patients that they already have an established rapport with, who they know won't throw them under the bus.

Agracier's story is a perfect example of this.

ILuvLadyDocs: Which story from AGracier?

I've never had any hint of sexual attention from a medical staffer, except for some kind allusions to my marital sexuality: my wife and I went to the same GP and when the GP advised her to conduct breast self-exams, she added (with a smile and a little laugh) "or you may ask your husband to do them, as you like".

OMG why did you play with a board member? You know petty officials, they just can't wait to increase their self importance. That's why I keep my play very discrete. Work is well you know... That's why what Dr Z wants or wants to hear about is rare as hens teeth.

OMG why did you play with a board member?

She said a person from THIS board. I took that to mean someone she met on zity.

Oh I'm so sorry. Going off half cocked again. Now that's perfidious to the max! How totally sick!

ILuvLadyDocs: Which story from AGracier?

I was kind of wondering too? I can't recall anything I've experienced that would fit the bill ... maybe it was someone else?

Liquid, yes it was someone from THIS board, from Erotic Clinic, not from the professional board. Geeze, are you nuts boy? God knows we like to play edgy but we don't jump off that edge, lol.

Mashie

I'm sorry Mashie I truly was asleep at the switch and I don't mean sub or dom. I'm brain dead from a graves shift last night.

I understand that. I myself actually prefer either 2nd or 3rd shift. I just am not a morning person...AT ALL!

Mashie

Oops. It wasn't Agracier. It was Turkent in his response to my Flirtarious / Dodgy Female MedPros thread. Sorry about that.

I think India would be lower than France and Germany on that list and maybe above Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh.

I think that should give you an Idea.. 😃

I think India would be lower than France and Germany on that list and maybe above Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh.

I wonder if it makes a difference when the ratio between urban vs rural dwellers changes. I would suspect that a larger rural population would mean less medfet attraction in general. You can't really say that rural populations embrace modernity. They tend to be conservative in nature. And if anything, I would say that kinks and fetishes are more of an urban, modern phenomenon.

So this list makes sense in that regard.

Agracier: Beware. A person from a rural area may have had fewer real-life occasions to indulge in nonstandard tastes or communicate with people with similar tastes, but now, with the Internet, anybody in a conservative village can be on FetLife. ;-)

Having travelled widely, I have been treated by doctors and nurses of many nationalities. Without exception they have all been friendly but professional. I often want to ask how much they enjoy what they are doing to me but have never done so abroad lest I offend local morals. It was only back in London when bending over for injections that I asked the nurse if she enjoyed giving shots in my bottom. Her reply was, "We're not supposed to admit it!"

Jabbotuk: Oh! As an adult, you got injections in the butt? I've not had any since childhood!