What Before the Internet?

Pre-Internet- timeline 1968--early 80's-- no cell phones. Meet ups for unusual/different sexually related activities were done through "Snail--Mail" contacts. You'd pick a #--write your letter--put it in the envelope seal it and write the # in upper right corner (where the stamp would be affixed) You enclosed a loose stamp or a $1 bill and mailed it to the stated address. It would then be stamped and mailed to the "#" address. Whatever happened after that was pure luck --- you either got a response or not. Even if "#" did reply---there was no guarantee "#" would agree to a in--person meet up.It was a still a crap shoot.

As a then 18 year old guy interested in exploring M/M spanking there were a lot of no responses ---but there was one that did -- and it "discretely" worked out nicely for 6 months. Those days are long gone...

It was mostly experimentation for me. Trial and error to find what I wanted. I mean, once you get the basic concept down (it really isn’t that complicated or have a whole lot of options), it becomes a question of what goes in the bag. When you purchase an enema bag, there were instructions on or inside the box. Those use to really turn me on back in the day. But it was very simplistic. Body position, how high to hang the bag, nozzle to use, liquid temperature and water volume.

For a better experience, it was just what went into the bag. I didn’t see a balloon or any retention device until much later in some books and magazines. Even then, there weren’t very many pictures or examples, mostly text. I did enjoy the letters and articles in P...house Magazine. They had a section dedicated to enemas if I remember correctly. Then I found there were fetish type publications at the adult stores along with some equipment. The Tr..sure Chest in Los Angeles was a favorite stop for me a long time ago.

The internet changed everything. Equipment, stories, recommendations, pictures/videos and even chat rooms made information and ideas readily available. Then the old Yah.. chat rooms had a dedicated enema room that I loved for video hook ups. I think that was what made me into the humiliation/enema sub that I am today. So easy to connect with others with the same interest while remaining anonymous. Really miss those rooms.

Most homes with teen kids had two landline phone lines so the parents could make calls when they needed to.

As a kid who realized that I actually liked the enemas I got from mom, I read every medical, nursing, and first aid book in the library if it had anything in it about enemas.

In the early 70’s there were the Penthouse letters titled Special Preference. That was when I realized there were others like me who gave themselves, or others, enemas for fun.

In the 80's I found an adult bookstore that had fetish magazines and sometimes there would be a Water and Power or something similar. In one of those magazines I found an add for a mail order place called Platinum, I think in Van Nuys, Ca. They sent out a catalog a few times a year and you could order enema equipment, magazines, and videos. I bought several things from them. They disappeared about the time the internet came on. I guess the internet put them out of business.

In my family the bag was either in the bathroom closet or hanging on a hook to dry. For more information, I would look in the giant Sears catalog where there was almost a full page of enema equipment. I remember reading about the nozzles, one of which gave an “upward and outward spray”. I had no idea what a douche nozzle was for. Later as a young adult, I found a few articles in medical books and very little in adult bookstores. I well remember finding my first enema letters magazine. It was so interesting! Shortly after I got my first personal computer about 25 years ago, I googled “enema chat”. The rest is history.

The book, “The Whole Earth Catalog” was a weird combination of an almanac, magazine, and hippie-product catalog. I remember a copy I found early to mid 1980s, had an article about “how to take an enema” and I was mesmerized.

I think it was the anthology of sexual fantasies compiled and published by Nancy Friday, “My Secret Garden” - “Forbidden Flowers” - and etc. that really exposed me to all aspects of “kink." (including enema/med-fetish fantasies). Uhmm… I can still recall the story of a man being “raped” my a Femdom, which began with an enema, an ended with him being pegged.

I've always loved libraries and doing research. When I was in college, I scoured the indexes looking for scholarly articles published by Dr. Joanne Denko, the psychologist who coined the term "klismaphilia" in the 1970s.

In the burgeoning years just “before” the Internet there were several a mailing lists, mail-order supply companies who sold enema equipment, an enema videos (Beth Tyler being the most prevalent). I also remember - ESIG (Enema Special Interest Group) - I believe it started out as a paper-based newsletter, but then early on it jumped to the internet (a USEnet newsgroup). ESIG then ultimately became the name of a very active user-created chat room on the AOL system in the mid 1990s.

Here in the UK i discovered a pretty seedy tobacco smelling little shop in the nearby town, they sold all sorts of adult mags, i liked the little Forum mags, they were highly leaning towards enemas in their stories, articles and ads, they also bought back copies and resold them, it was really via that mag that my love of enemas grew from something id discovered alone, to realising others were into it to, the rest, as they say, is history.

There was a lot of situations where, at school/work, you would simply agree to meet outside the controlled environment at a certain time and place.

I know that my parents actually went to an undeveloped tract of land halfway between Dad's house and the school.

There was one area in particular that looked like it may have been the garden of a long-demolished Civil war era mansion known to stand nearby.

There was this one circle of evergreen bushes that formed a circle. it had been so overgrown that it was well over the head of an adult.

They would separately duck between those bushes. The circle in the middle was clear, 10 or so feet in diameter.

Many, if not most of the planning sessions for their early enema sessions took place in that circle, on the supposed walk home from school!

That was the first place my father ever heard of an Evac-Q-Kit Later called Evac-Q-Kwik. The next day he was stopping at the drug store to buy one for use in an enema session.

As I have posted earlier, I first realized others used enemas for other than medical purposes from Penthouse in the early 70s. My first encounter on the internet was in the early 90s. I did not have my own computer yet so I went to the local library and when I searched for “enema” I was expecting just medical information. I was shocked to find a story titled something like “My Bride’s Enema”. It was a familiar scenario where during the honeymoon the bride becomes constipated and did not have any laxative so the groom talks her into an enema using her douche bag, which leads to wild sex and more enemas for both.

Of course it was text only, with the DOS prompt blinking at you continuously. I was totally surprised to see such content on a public computer, but I guess that was before they knew how to block “adult” content. Some might argue that it is not all good, but the internet sure has changed.

Old timers easily talked about needing or getting an enema and the wellness they enjoyed from them. It was an intelligent practice when I was growing up. Real unsophisticated men were easy to talk to and were liberal with all kinds of advice.

Pre--Internet. By the early ‘70’s larger cities were allowing porn book stores to operate (grudgingly) sufficiently away from the middle class neighborhoods so as to avoid complaints. Surprisingly these book stores carried a A-Z variety of porn magazines in Straight and Gay tastes..most of it was R++ and XXX produced/distributed by the Mob at a $20 per mag price. A lot of gay stuff from the Netherlands also…the 25 cent movie peep show booths came later…with 8/16mm color films. Some of the material would be illegal as hell now days…the Police generally stayed away--but the rise of peep shows caused issues…The scenarios of then no longer apply..it's all different now.

Some of the material would be illegal as hell now days.

Why?

Pornography, even hard-core pornography is NOT illegal.

What is illegal is CHILD pornography!

Even then, some of those laws are going to run into constitutional problems if someone has the legal skill, determination, and resources to challenge them!

Before the Internet I have experienced with enemas in order to cleanse my colon - later I have experienced with castor oil in order to cleanse my bowels completely. In order to recognize and to realize this one no Internet has been necessary.

There were a few enema and spanking related magazines available - mostly in large cities or by subscription. I think VHS videos were also available through some outlets like Shadow-Lane before the internet. Quite a few magazines are discussed in this earlier thread:

https://en.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=456

My mom had nursing books left over from college that I would thumb through. They had a good section with pictures of a doctor doing a rectal and an enema on a lady. I think it was probably a nursing student making some money the hard way. Speaking of hard, I sure was looking at those pictures.

Early recollections (and somewhat vague at this point) are mostly mom's nursing texts…but what sticks out most vividly in my mind is the time spent looking at the pictures in the Sears catalogue!!! Enema bulbs and bags, douches, and then on to the bras and girdles!!!

My sub found enema magazines at the local adult bookstore. Though he had first ran across a discussion of taking an enema in a more mainstream gentlemen's magazine. Penthouse I believe, but don't quote me.

LisaK

Pornography, even hard-core pornography is NOT illegal.

That was not true into the 1960s. It was illegal and several publishers were tried and convicted. Irving Klaw, who did bondage pictures, never showing a bare breast, bottom or crotch, had lots of legal tangles. The sale of what we would call harmless sex toys was illegal. So if you could call it medical, it would be allowed. That was part of the reason so many shapes of large douche nozzles were for sale. You couldn't sell a dildo but you could sell a nozzle.

Naked women magazines, like Playboy (Thats not porn…..)

And after, small magazines with porn….

And after I left home, all of them gone….. and wasnt me that toss them away 😮

Be safe

Za

Before the internet? Hmmm…..

Playboy was basically pictures of pinup girls. There was essentially nothing about enemas or douches, except, perhaps in a few letters. Playboy was really petty tame and mainstream.y

Penthouse was a bit more edgy. Their letters sometimes had enema, douche, and other similar references. The magazine was not much different than Playboy.

Fetish Times was a newspaper format and was probably the go-to place for stories and ads. It was THE place for selling ytoys. The Sherema Clinic advertised there and Beth Tyler (as I remember)

There were several magazine formats also, including Water & Power and Enema Times. Their stories wee usually stupid (MO) and the pics unrealistic. Both wee more BD/SM oriented.

Finally Swedish Erotica occasionally has some stuff, but again unrealistic.

Much of my history with enemas precluded the internet. And, while we have so much more information available today, the transition to electronic communication has not been without a loss. Connections were made via fetish newspapers sold in adult book stores. These weekly pages listed commercial adds for equipment, videos and contact information for like minded adults.

I still recall stopping at my neighborhood UPS / Fed Ex mail store to pick up the FR 50 Rouche colon tube I had ordered from the ‘living End’" catalog . I couldn't wait to get home and feed that thick Red rubber, three foot tube up my bum. I also purchased my big Klystra bag from the same firm to complete the ensemble .

I also made several long term friendships that involved sharing my VHS & cam-corder home videos via the same discreet "snail-mail drop sites.

Alas, as an old analog fan living in a computer driven world. I am unable to to share my collection of “Private” enema, spanking,/ toying DVD's. And. as I approach my eighth decade, I realize that most of my carefully filmed & edited work will sadly end up in my burn barrel. Such is life.

Alas, as an old analog fan living in a computer driven world. I am unable to to share my collection of “Private” enema, spanking,/ toying DVD's. And. as I approach my eighth decade, I realize that most of my carefully filmed & edited work will sadly end up in my burn barrel. Such is life.

This is what flea markets and secondhand bookstores are for. So prized (private) possessions may get adopted by new owners. I know of a secondhand bookstore in Brussels that specializes in erotica of all kinds, books, magazines, photos, statues, bric-a-brac and DVD's. In fact the owner said he makes the most by selling old DVD's …

Does anyone know if the American Indians sent any porn via smoke signals? Penis shaped smoke plumes?

Before the internet it was going into adult bookstores to buy sex toys and going into the back sections of video stores to rent movies

I found that Penthouse magazine had a forum and found one topic called Pain and Pleasure, it had stories about spanking and enemas, I believe this was in the seventies

As a young lad with respect to the pre-internet already with a strong interest in enemas , there was our family ‘ Sears and Roebuck Spring / Fall Catalogs ’ where some very enticing now ‘ vintage ’ enema / douche equipment was featured in pictures and detailed description as to components and usage . Then there was our ‘ Home Nursing ’ paperbacks where enema administered drawings and a few pictures gave a ‘ visual ’ as to what to do / expect as to the ‘ home enema ’ . I then found in our college library copies of ‘ Registered Nurse’ magazine which was obviously ‘ enema friendly ‘ as to articles and illustrations which I viewed in our college / university library . Then there were the ’ vintage ‘ Nursing manuals , also in the college / university library ‘ archives ’ , from the 1940’s - 1950's eras which featured real ‘ black and white ’ pics of nurse administered enemas in various stages of administration . I had some candid conversations w / male / female friends on the subject which further ‘ piqued ’ my interest when growing up in post-WW II America . While visiting an ‘ adult book store ’ in the late 1960's in our university city , I chanced upon a ‘ vintage pulp paperback ‘ , which I purchased , with the title of : … ’ … Bottoms are Tops .. ‘ purportedly written by an older lady where she shared her life-long affinity as to the ’ give / receive ‘ of enemas primarily to younger women , teen girls and her young adult son all in need of a good bowel cleansing . The pulp feature was a rather erotic read as the mature ’ enema queen ‘ wrote to her readers in the format of a ’ you are there ‘ share . Yes ………. there was an ’ enema underground ‘ prior to the advent of the internet . If one was in the least bit ‘ klismo ‘ , his / her interest could become reality if they were to search enough and sometimes as per my above ……… the subject matter was not ’ hidden in plain sight ‘ as in the case of our ’ Sears Catalogs ‘ and even one copy of my mom's ’ Ladies Home Journal ‘ periodical in which a lady shared rather graphically over two paragraphs her ’ hospital enema ' experience . Wow ………………….

Alas, as an old analog fan living in a computer driven world. I am unable to to share my collection of “Private” enema, spanking,/ toying DVD's. And. as I approach my eighth decade, I realize that most of my carefully filmed & edited work will sadly end up in my burn barrel. Such is life.

In our area it seems the survivors chose of disposal of unwanted items of those no longer with us is the trash, bags or dumpsters.

Rarely there are garage sales or tag sales. So far there hasn't been any interesting or “fun” items found. Maybe they are doing what my Dad did, disposing of the adult fetish collection prior to their survivors having to find it.

Such a shame to lose that vintage stuff.

Where I grew up there was a newsstand downtown that had adult magazines in the back with all kinds of different fetishes but I don’t think they were selling well because the woman who owned the place allowed us as teens to go in and buy them. I had quite a few different kinds but made the mistake of showing them to a friend who told his parents for some reason I still don’t undER stand and a complaint was filed. We weren’t allowed to look anymore in the store but if we requestEd something and no one was around she would get it for me. I think everyone else was afraid to ask because we had been banned.

I can only remember once coming across anything medical fetish related in my (very) pre internet youth and that was a Penthouse Forum story of a guy who got worked over by two female radiology technicians. Because I so rarely encountered this material pre internet, I was for many years under the impression that I might be the only freak in the world who was turned on by this stuff.

Occasionally a pre-arranged pay phone-to pay phone call.