Doctors and circumcision

I was circumcised at age 31, because of severe phimosis. I had the operation done under local anaesthetic in a private clinic in London.

I had developed phimosis at the age of 11 or 12 after previously being able to retract my foreskin, so I knew then that I had a medical problem. I also learnt at around the same age that the standard treatment for this condition was circumcision. The prospect of this terrified me, and together with the embarrassment factor I kept my condition secret to myself. I dreaded it being discovered at some future medical examination, but to my great relief my penis was never examined at any that I had.

From my late teens I made attempts at stretching my foreskin, but never with any significant results. The skin around the opening of my foreskin had become thickened and totally inelastic, making even the slightest amount of retraction impossible. Through my twenties I was still reluctant to undergo the cut, partly through fear and partly because I had always regarded cut cocks as being inferior to intact ones (and I still do). However, I was becoming increasingly frustrated that I could not access the most sensitive part of my cock, I could not control my pee stream (sprayed in all directions) and I was becoming worried about the health and hygiene consequences of all the gunk that was trapped under my foreskin. Eventually I plucked up the courage to undergo the relieving cut.

Q1: circumcised at about 43 years old. Reason: the foreskin sliding over the glans was dusturbing me and cultural reasons, wife from Philippines. Procedure was done in Belgium.

A few years later I had the frenulum removed but was still intact.

Good grief, why in the world remove the frenulum when you were already circumcised? That is like adding insult to injury ...

Good grief, why in the world remove the frenulum when you were already circumcised? That is like adding insult to injury ...

Ohh excuse me, I typed the text when I was at work.

First frenulum and many years later circumcised.

Frenulum was pulling the glans way too much. That's why it was removed.

Thanks for making me aware of that error Agracier! I will correct it soon 😉

Ohh excuse me, I typed the text when I was at work.

Thanks for making me aware of that error Agracier! I will correct it soon 😉

No big deal.

You know, I am jealous that people can type this kind of stuff while at work. In my day, there were no computers and if you picked up any piece of paper not work related it didn't take long for the displeasure to be evident.

I was circumcised at 27 and have never looked back. My penis became cleaner, more attractive and more enjoyable to handle whether by me or someone else.

I think all men should be circumcised and looking back to when I was whole, losing 5% of physical meat improved things by 1000%.

No regrets whatsoever.

I was circumcised at 27 and have never looked back. My penis became cleaner, more attractive and more enjoyable to handle whether by me or someone else.

I think all men should be circumcised and looking back to when I was whole, losing 5% of physical meat improved things by 1000%.

You can only speak for yourself. My wife would certainly disagree with you, and it's probably fair to say the majority of British women would also disagree.

Hygiene with an unmodified penis is not difficult. All it needs is washing, just like any other part of yourself.

You know, I am jealous that people can type this kind of stuff while at work. In my day, there were no computers....

Yeah, been there partly, then in the nineties things changed with cell phones and computers coming. It didnt really get better since then. At work I have also my big part of stress, which make my hands shaking. Luckily I had to assist someone which gave me a little bit time to get some distraction on this wonderful platform.

But we're seriously off topic now 😁

You can only speak for yourself. My wife would certainly disagree with you, and it's probably fair to say the majority of British women would also disagree.

Hygiene with an unmodified penis is not difficult. All it needs is washing, just like any other part of yourself.

Before she figured out a reason to not have sex at all, my wife would certainly have disagreed. I pulled my foreskin back before entering her one time to see what that felt like for me and she said never again. She did NOT like my bare glans rubbing her vaginal walls. I readily agreed as my poor penis didn't get much time in it's favorite home as I came nearly as soon as I got in. Asking some of my female friends I have found that some really like that feeling though.

The doctor told my mother she would have to retract and wash inside there every time she bathed me if she didn't have me circumcised so I remember having that done from my earliest memories. I had an aunt who had 13 kids. When they came to visit it was always bath time for baby me in a tub on the kitchen table with my father taking 8mm home movies. Her boys never appear in the movies but all her girls did. My mother had to show them how to retract it and wash under there and they all took turns bathing me.

I have never had any problem cleaning it myself in the shower. It takes about 10 seconds to wash and rinse unless I get distracted and find it necessary to spill some sperm while washing it.

If you like yours better without the skin more power to you. I'm not against it when you're old enough to decide for yourself. I enjoy spending a day or so with mine pulled back but the cut guys I played with when we were 10 to 15 seemed to have about as much feeling when manipulating their glans as the back of your thumb. They always wanted me to rub it pretty hard to make them come. I can see where that might be advantageous for both you and the female partner.

@roscoe My cousin and I discussed sex and circumcision in our 20s (he was drunk). He said it worked for vaginal penetration, assuming, I guess, the woman is well lubricated naturally. His complaint was about painful handjobs, e.g. in foreplay, since the girls would rub him as though he had a foreskin.

A female acquaintance told me something similar to what your wife said: the direct rubbing of the naked glans on the vagina walls is unpleasant.

Yes i'm circumcised

I got circumcision at 11.

The reason is I'm born in USA and my dad wanted that and i didn't want a forced retracted foreskin by the doctor anymore.

At each medical exam i got a forced retracted and it was painfull

So when the doc said at my parents it was better for me to get circumcision my dad was happy .

I got a hight and tight circumcision.

@roscoe My cousin and I discussed sex and circumcision in our 20s (he was drunk). He said it worked for vaginal penetration, assuming, I guess, the woman is well lubricated naturally. His complaint was about painful handjobs, e.g. in foreplay, since the girls would rub him as though he had a foreskin.

A female acquaintance told me something similar to what your wife said: the direct rubbing of the naked glans on the vagina walls is unpleasant.

None of the guys I played with back then had much sensation in their glans and wanted me to rub it pretty hard. Of course the only comparison I had was my own glans. When I touched that it nearly sent me through the roof it was so sensitive, almost like touching an open wound. The cut guys were always sensitive to that when they were doing us uncuts so they could relate to our problem and were careful not to touch our glans when rolling our foreskins back and forth. So was my girlfriend when I was in the army. She must have had a lot of hand job experience for a 16 year old.

Some of the women I have asked do like to feel the naked glans rubbing their walls and some don't. I'd say about 50/50. So I can understand why so many US boys are circumcised at birth. The mother says cut that worthless piece of skin off.

@Mikael22 You certainly had plenty of reason to have it done. Mine has always been easy to retract the only problem being the unreal sensitivity of my glans when it is naked. Did you any problem with that after yours was permanently exposed? I'd like to hear how it went right after having it done. When I was that age I would have had a really difficult time with having my glans permanently exposed.

Who chose the high and tight? Did you get a choice or was that just the way the doctor did it? That's what I would choose if I were going to do it.

Hello @roscoe

I dont remember to got some problème whit the sensitivity of my glans but i remember the pain of my forced retracted foreskin and my first erection like teenager.

You must to understand whit the hight and tight circumcision the doctor remove a lot of skin and when you got it your skin dont slide on your penis.

So the first erection it painfull because you dont have enough skin for it

My dad whit the doctor chosen the hight and tight

I was circumcised in France at age 7 due to phimosis! Evidently doctors strongly pushed for surgery to happen soon after they gave up on attempts at pulling the skin back. It's not very clear for me but I think they persuaded my parents by claiming that surgery would not be a full circumcision, whereas it ended up being one.

Never circumcised, nor was it suggested. I do remember some foreskin tightness upon full erection during puberty, but that wore off with use. Skin is very stretchy over time, as any plastic surgeon will tell you. Just look at what certain African women slowly accomplish with their ears etc:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ef/bc/05/efbc055e9f169f63dd4df081ca023d1d--ear-stretching-ears.jpg

Regular stretching will normally ease any phimosis; scalpels should be a last resort, not the first. The fact that circumcision is uncommon in the UK makes me wonder whether we have evolved some strange penile superiority over here (happy to accept that charge) or whether doctors elsewhere are simply giving advice biased by cultural norms or religion?

I'm 20 years old and uncut.

When I was 7 years old I had a medical exam at school and was sent to a urologist because my testicles hadn't yet fully dropped. The urologist found out that it's not a problem but he checked my foreskin and found a phimosis. It hurt when he tried to pull back the skin. He gave me a cream to stretch it at home, and explained to my mother that he did not advise her at all to let me get circumcised. My mother used to do that for me. It got a bit better and I went back to that doctor some other times but at some point I stopped, but still used the cream, only occasionally though.

Later, when I was like 14 I went back to him, must've been my mother's idea. It got a lot better but not completely, and he got rid of the adhesion my foreskin had with the glans. He told me that it was okay like that and that I can be glad that a circumcision was not necessary and that I was endurant and consistent enough with the cream, so that I basically was a good boy.

I thought the issue was solved, but when I started to gain more sexual experience I realised that while yes, I can pull the foreskin back when the penis is flaccid, it's not possible with an erection. I probably should go see a doctor again, I'm just a bit too shy.

I'm 23 years old and uncut as far as I know I didn't have any issues growing up

I think they persuaded my parents by claiming that surgery would not be a full circumcision, whereas it ended up being one.

Circumcision is by far the most effective method to treat phimosis. When it is performed, the expectation is that the entire preputial tissue, phimotic or not, is going to be removed resulting in a complete exposure of the glans. It could very well be that your parents misunderstood the doctor's original intent when he discussed this particular treatment option with them.

It could very well be that your parents misunderstood the doctor's original intent when he discussed this particular treatment option with them.

Or that the doctor was being evasive, skirting around the truth and outright lying because, he, as medical professional, simply knew he knew best when it came to circumcisions.

I know my mother was lied to by her doctor when giving birth to my younger brother. Or perhaps ignored her wishes would be a better description. She told again and again that she requested/demanded my younger brother not be cut at birth. But he was anyway despite what she was promised.

It was one of those 1950s 'doctor knows best' situations where professional pride and prejudice overrode a patient's wishes, especially a female patient's wishes. .

@madebare I don't now! It happened 40 years ago… It seems plausible for me that the doctors tried to sugar-coat the thing for my parents, and that my mother understood what she wanted to understand.

Anyway it's not that big of a deal;

I was circumcised at a urologist's office where my parents took me at the request of our family physician. When we got to his office, the nurse took me straight to the examination room and instructed to remove my shoes and clothes. As he was leaving the room, he said "Please do not forget to remove your undershorts before putting on the gown."

He returned a few minutes later together with the doctor and who promptly instructed me to get off the exam table and stand still with my feet spread apart. As he rolled himself on a low stool in front of me, he asked me to lift my gown up my chest. When he looked at my genitals, it became apparent to everyone why I was there to see him. He quickly retracted my foreskin, and then instructed the nurse to get me ready for the operation.

@madebare When he looked at my genitals, it became apparent to everyone why I was there to see him. He quickly retracted my foreskin, and then instructed the nurse to get me ready for the operation.

I have tried to find a previous post in this thread why it was apparent you were circumcised. But I don't see anything.

If the doctor could quickly retract your foreskin, it mustn't have been that, but something else I surmise. Could you explain what the reason was?

Could you explain what the reason was?

The prevalence of circumcision in the United States is explained by the fact that males, oftentimes, newborns, are circumcised for prophylactic and hygienic reasons. So, during a physical examination, if it is discovered that the patient still has his foreskin, the doctor is likely to discuss with him or his parents the benefits of having a prophylactic or hygienic circumcision. Family physicians often possess the skill to perform this necessary operation on newborns and younger children, while older children, adolescents, and adults are commonly referred to a local urological practice or an outpatient surgical center.

The prevalence of circumcision in the United States is explained by the fact that males, oftentimes, newborns, are circumcised for prophylactic and hygienic reasons. So, during a physical examination, if it is discovered that the patient still has his foreskin, the doctor is likely to discuss with him or his parents the benefits of having a prophylactic or hygienic circumcision.

So in plain English, you were circumcised for no specific reason, medical or health-wise. You were circumcised because of his personal opinion on wanting you to conform to what he thought were proper standards. Sort of like prophylactically pulling out someone's big toenail on the off chance it might become an infected ingrown toenail.

After all, one doesn't really need a nail on one's big toe, does one?

So in plain English, you were circumcised for no specific reason, medical or health-wise.

Wouldn’t there also be economic reasons to promote circumcision? Such an operation brings more money to an urologist than feeling the prostates of elderly men.

I had seen an advertisement from a clinic in Canada which offered to circumcise directly, without even a preoperative examination, but this advertisement could also be intended for religious circumcisions. However, this reason was not mentioned.

After all, one doesn't really need a nail on one's big toe, does one?

I confirm that I can live without a foreskin and without big toenails, mine are regularly damaged when I go hiking. Well, they grow back, but it takes a year, just for the start of the next season, even though my foreskin has never grown back.

You were circumcised because of his personal opinion on wanting you to conform to what he thought were proper standards.

Yes, the standards of care and treatment guidelines regarding circumcision in the United States are quite different as compared to other countries.

- If a certain physiological condition (such as a phimotic prepuce, balanitis, or balanoposthitis) is discovered during physical examination, the patient is promptly referred to a urologist for a therapeutic circumcision.

- If the physician discovers a redundant prepuce, the patient is likely to be referred for a hygienic circumcision.

- If the patient has not yet been properly circumcised and does not present any physiological conditions, his physician is obligated to discuss the importance of having a prophylactic circumcision.

- If the physician discovers a redundant prepuce, the patient is likely to be referred for a hygienic circumcision.

There is either a medical reason present or there isn't.

Talking about redundant foreskins and hygienic circumcisions are terms that George Orwell or Madison Avenue guys would have been proud to think up and use ... ha ha.

C'mon, seriously. That is just being creative with words, not describing any medical necessity.

- If a certain physiological condition (such as a phimotic prepuce, balanitis, or balanoposthitis) is discovered during physical examination, the patient is promptly referred to a urologist

I am certain that is what would happen elsewhere too. Those are observable medical conditions.

I am an RN and I favor circumcision for the following reasons:

1. Circumcised men have a markedly lower incidence of STD transmission

2. In later years circumcised men have fewer problems around the glans with fungal infections and fewer UTI's.

Subjective:

1. I like cut guys and I think most women do also.

Subjective:

1. I like cut guys and I think most women do also.

I know a lot of American ladies are used to circumcised men, it is not like that in most other countries though. I am British and most British ladies prefer uncircumcised if they care about it at all, because they are used to uncircumcised most of the time. I am not even sure I would know how to pleasure a circumcised penis, it would be a bit odd to me. I do not think the medical reasons for Americans circumcising are true either because I have read about it ages ago.

Talking about redundant foreskins and hygienic circumcisions are terms that George Orwell or Madison Avenue guys would have been proud to think up and use

"Redundant prepuce" is a legitimate diagnosis used by the U.S. doctors to justify circumcising an otherwise healthy penis. Although the term refers to having an excessive prepuce, its usage is very subjective.

Many practitioners think that a patient is required to undergo a circumcision due to presence of a redundant prepuce, if his foreskin extends beyond the tip of the glans in the flaccid state. Others think that the patient will avoid the operation only if the foreskin is short enough to allow for at least partial protrusion of the glans when the penis is not erect; if there is no protrusion, the prepuce is redundant.

But, as I mentioned, most U.S. physicians will recommend a prophylactic or hygienic circumcision if a foreskin is still present.