Restroom visit, ladies or man?

Attention all ladies, well I mean male CD ladies.

when out shopping or partying in public places and you have to make a visit to the restroom, which one do you enter?

man or woman?

I'm usually in public wearing women's clothing; I go to women's rest room. All the stalls are private; I just sit like everyone else and do what I'm there for. When I came out of the closet a woman I know in a charity said she would appreciate if I didn't use the ladies room in the building. She's the only one who asked me not to. I think it'd be too weird to walk into the men's room. You'd be announcing that you are a TV TG and risk a beating.

If an unisex or family rest room is available I will use it. If not, I will use the ladies. I have never had a problem. The was a bar many years ago that had two lady rooms and they did ask us to use a certain one. No problems. Other then that the bar was very friendly.

I would imagine if you are playing the part and dressed as a woman, you should use the ladies room.

Go outside behind the bush.

Actually i think it would be better to use the women's room, but be respectful in doing so. It should not upset the women or make them feel uncomfortable, but nonetheless, you always gotta do your part.

Hi. When out I use women's restroom; they have door on front of stalls and only have to remember to sit down, which is nice with panties on.

Always the ladies. You can't go into a gents dressed as a female!!!! That is guaranteed to cause all types of problems.

Always be respectful, and don't go out to draw attention to yourself. Just go in and do what you have to do.

I have never had a problem personally.

Also sometimes it is quite surprising how much more talkative and friendly women are than men.

It is not unusual to end up having some really informative and interesting conversations with complete strangers in ladies loos, either whilst waiting for a vacant cubicle, or re touching your make up and hair afterwards.

Women, just be discreet

It was a dream come true to use the ladies room. I was at a gay/trans bar in Washington, D.C. Area. I was using the ladies room to change my sticky pad as well as a tampon. It was a true experience. When I was pulling up my panties 1 guy came in and wanted me to give him a BJ. I did not know him so I refused and was lucky he took no for an answer. I was so afraid.

I feel that if you are dressed as a woman you should use the ladies room otherwise people will wonder why a woman went in the men's room. Here in Texas the state is considering a law that requires you to use the sex you were born with as the determination. But really, do people question this? If so they should get some business of their own and stay out of ours.

When I'm out with my sissy girl He wears a diaper so he dont have to use the restroom of either Gender. Thats what people should do instead of going into the wrong restroom. I think I would feel safer with only genetic women in my restroom. There are always gonna be pervs out there that dress just to get into the wrong restroom. I dont want them in the ladies room.

So guys if ya want to dress like a girl go ahead but wear a pamper so as to not upset people, they can be hidden very easily under a skirt or pants too.

If an unisex or family rest room is available I will use it. If not, I will use the ladies if I am out as a lady (which is most often the case. I strive for 24/7 lifestyle). But, I am also incontinent and wear diapers so it is less of an issue for me perhaps.

California just changed all single toilet bathrooms to gender neutral. It makes sense, just like bathrooms on airliners. Restaurants are often singe toilet. Used to be a line in front of one or the other with one empty, the women afraid to go into a toilet labeled 'Men, even though it was single & open or vice versa

bigkitty2454 said

When I'm out with my sissy girl He wears a diaper so he dont have to use the restroom of either Gender. Thats what people should do instead of going into the wrong restroom. I think I would feel safer with only genetic women in my restroom. There are always gonna be pervs out there that dress just to get into the wrong restroom. I dont want them in the ladies room.

So guys if ya want to dress like a girl go ahead but wear a pamper so as to not upset people, they can be hidden very easily under a skirt or pants too.

I agree with you.

The fact is WOMEN, that means two X chromosomes, by and large DO NOT want you in their rest room regardless of how you are dressed.

Women feel safer when only real genetic women with two X chromosomes (NO Y chromosomes) are in there.

@ susie: Reply #4 you said if dressed like a woman, use the women's room; last reply you said women feel better if only XX persons are in the women's room. So for you, personally, how do you feel if a man in women's clothes was in the restroom while you're there?

I'm XY & no surgery. In a busy professional, community and social life I've dressed as a woman for 3 years, and pass well enough that most new acquaintances are not aware. I never use the men's room. It would cause a conflict. Even in San Francisco where I live, I've had a few requests not to use the ladies room. When I first came out, at the first meeting of a board, a woman asked me not to use the women's room there.

I've enter a woman's bathroom before but only by mistake.

It was empty when i went in.

I thought it was strange no urinals anywhere so I went in a stall but when I came out a lady was coming in. She smiled and said hello but did not say what are you doing or anything.

Think I have sympathy with both views I can understand women wanting the privacy of their own bathrooms but can also see the sense of the other side of this discussion.

Strange thing is women don't seem to mind using a male toilet when they are faced with a long queue even when men may be using the urinals. In the UK this is quite common and not just confined to the younger ages. I've witnessed this myself when using a urinal with women in their 50's and 60's waiting behind me to use the stalls, just need to treat each other with respect ie put it away before turning away from the urinal.

In Canada, it is always the gender you are presenting. We also have a lot of unisex washrooms. If you are confused, use the single stall family washroom.

Switchable susie- I haven't heard an argument that outdated since North Carolina tried to make a law to that effect, and damn near bankrupted the state.

In Canada, it is always the gender you are presenting. We also have a lot of unisex washrooms. If you are confused, use the single stall family washroom.

Switchable susie- I haven't heard an argument that outdated since North Carolina tried to make a law to that effect, and damn near bankrupted the state.

I can't claim being the originator of that statement, but I do agree with it.

I'm not talking about the uberkinksters here. Most women do not want a guy, and you can almost always tell, even if they are dressed like a woman in their public bathroom.

I'm not talking about the uberkinksters here. Most women do not want a guy, and you can almost always tell, even if they are dressed like a woman in their public bathroom.

You're right, some guy may see you wash your hands. Shocking.

Unisex is still the answer. Everyone use the same stalls, and sinks, and nobody cares. Here, they are just boarding over the urinals, and changing the signs.

Boarding up the urinals and changing the signs is plain stupid.

That would only make the men have to wait as long as the women at public bathrooms.

Look, I don't care how the bathrooms work. I shit, piss and fart loudly and proudly no matter who is in the bathroom. I'm not going to waste time peeing drop by drop or letting out a fart very slowly over ten minutes in the bathroom. I want to get my business done and get back to whatever I was doing. I have no hang-ups about it, I'm just saying how most women feel, and as you are probably aware, you (and I) are far off the center of the bell curve.

And how is that not fair play?

EVERYBODY is going to, sooner or later, realize that gender is a spectrum, not a binary.

My statement has nothing to do with fair play. I'm just saying how most women feel, and that's a much bigger group of real women than the snowflake trans-trenders and other SJW morons who want to be catered to.

EVERYBODY is going to, sooner or later, realize that gender is a spectrum, not a binary.

We're going to have to disagree on that.

Chromosomes rule. Some people have mental illness (dysphoria), some have birth defects.

In the world today, everybody has to be OK. Nobody wants to have anything wrong with them. Nobody wants to take responsibility for what they are.

I cannot continue this discussion, it's about 90 years behind the times. I will however suggest that Laverne Cox use the men's room. And, there are 43 combinations of X and Y (so far, they find new ones all the time). I guess intersex people just piss outside.

Neither of us will change the other's minds.

Agreed. Last entry- Gender dysphoria was removed from DSM5, already about 4 years ago, as a mental disorder, or illness.

Tree is best.

Agreed. Last entry- Gender dysphoria was removed from DSM5, already about 4 years ago, as a mental disorder, or illness.

They need help more than the rest of the population.

The reason dysphoria was removed is because insurance does not cover very much on mental illness, but covers a lot on other aspects of transgendering and other medical procedures.

It's amazing to me how politically correct and sweet sounding they have made all the psycho-social disorders. BULLSHIT.

The fact is, I don't care what the people are or how they dress, present themselves or who they like to fuck, that's completely up to them. Just don't expect me to do anything special to cater to them.

This has become quite a public uproar considering it only concerns a very small percentage of the population who identify as something other than what their genetic make-up (remember, biology is also a Science!) was at birth. Hermaphrodites, gender dysphorics, kinky crossdressers, whatever. Fine. They're outliers vs the general "normie" population, and manipulating the law in favor of them vs maintaining the safety and privacy of the rest of the population is abhorrent on face.

That said, I don't even like to piss at a urinal next to some other dude, or take a dump in the office stall next to him when I can smell and hear him destroying his stall. It's just gross, and really anything but(t) private. And don't get me started about people who actually answer their goddamn phone while taking care of nature's business. I even heard a guy dialed in on a teleconference doing it once. He thought he was muted. He wasn't.

The notion of multi-stall unisex bathrooms being open to anyone - the "Ally McBeal" model, which I've yet to see in the real corporate world - is realistically unworkable even if it is appealing in theory. You open minded types who endorse this notion while complaining about "rapey" environments have no idea what you're entertaining: the free reign of genetic males (remember: biology is SCIENCE!) in a dress and heels or not, to access and use your bathrooms while you partially disrobe to let your body do its thing isn't enlightened, it isn't clever, it isn't post-modern hipster PC, it's just fucking dangerous. Think about it.

I'd vote for unisex public bathrooms only if they're individual like you'd find in a person's house, i.e. commode and sink, and most importantly, a door that locks. We're starting to see this happen in some bars and restaurants. Target and many grocery stores have tertiary "family" restrooms where people can take opposite sex young relatives for potty assistance, diaper changing etc with the safety of a locking door. Dressing rooms are already unisex (though usually supervised). It's just more practical and as others have pointed out, efficient vs long lines at men's or women's restrooms while the others happen to be near- or actually empty.

TL;dr: "Multi-sex" bathrooms aren't safe, or practical. BUT unisex single-occupant (or "family") ones might be, in the long run.

Agasmic- Although it takes getting used to, unisex's make sense. I was at a concert recently, and it got really loud, and I stepped out into the hallway by the washrooms. The new signs said 'It doesn't matter' on one, and 'it really doesn't' on the other. Every single person walked into one, walked back out and looked at the sign, and then was fine with it. Lots of our Gov. building are going with them. Also, the person cleaning them does not have to wait to go into the 'wrong one'.

This argument will last for years, but having spend half my life in the gaybourhood, where there isn't even doors, it works for me.