Anal fisting and prolapse

I have a question for those of you that are into fisting or being fisted analy, I realize that it takes time to relax and stretch the sphincter muscles enough to accept a fist, that being said after you are done with play time do you remain loose and stretched out for a period of time and does the muscles then tighten back up or do you have to work at tightening them back up.

It varies. It depends on how you train yourself and your genetics.

Careless forceful training can result in anal ring ruptures or other delayed problems requiring anal reconstruction, which will forever end your anal escapades.

It ISN'T just relaxation to allow the fist to enter. Think of the gymnast doing a split. It ISN'T a question of their just relaxing to do it when they are learning how to do it. If it were just a matter of relaxation, many more people would be able to do it. Can you relax, jump high into the air and land doing a split, especially a side to side split which is much harder to do than a front to back split?? So you see, relaxation is just a small part of it.

Being able to take a fist is a question of muscle development and creation of more and new myosin and actin fibers that allow the muscle to lengthen and grow over time.

Very good answer Switchable. (And no I am not trying to be a smarty pants) You always seem to have very wise and well thought out answers to problems and questions that folks bring up. I for one enjoy reading your answers. Kudos to you!

Susie, I really enjoy your posts. As mentioned by others, you seem to be most wise on these matters. I would love to take a class from you on anal fisting - or read a guide or book you had written. Thank you.

Here's the guide:

Start with what you can comfortably take. GRADUALLY over time--for weeks at a time--use slightly larger insertions to the point of their being uncomfortable--NOT painful. It is important to leave in what you are inserting for extended periods of time--maybe an hour or so on a daily basis. You could do your training at night and then sleep with it inserted to keep the anus open and dilated if you like. Try for an extra eighth or quarter inch in diameter per month, and as with most things of this nature, there is a lot of individual variation. People who have been fisting didn't gain the ability overnight. It took MONTHS or YEARS.

Thank you so much, Susie. You're not only an excellent moderator, but resident expert. Thank you for your generous spirit and shared knowledge.

One more thing.

While some people, like my husband can take very deep arm insertions other people like myself have much smaller limits. I would love to have my husband fist me anally or vaginally, but his hands are just too big for me. The fact that I have had two children hasn't helped vaginal fisting for me one bit. I have been fisted by women with small hands, but it's never going to happen with my husband.

My wife has actually fisted me about half a dozen times. These experiences, as I'm sure you know, defy words. It is beyond intimate for me, an intensely physical, emotional and spiritual high with my lover that is a kind of pinnacle. The difficulty we have now is that there is so much pressure on her hand - which has arthritis - that it's painful for her. We've used large plugs and dildos and they are amazing, too, but still not the same convergence of touch, fullness, intensity and ecstasy as her hand inside of me.

So even though fisting may be a past event for me, I'm still keenly interested in preparation and technique in case the mood strikes us and she wants to go for it again. Anything that can ease the pressure. Thank you again, Susie, for your wonderful insights.

Be carefull if presence of hemoroïd(s)

@switchablesusie... uncomfortable--NOT painful...

Here is my "problem" I guess. Up until now I have had an easy way of inserting toys and each time gradually getting bigger in size. I am to the point that I can insert a 8.5 inch circumference. Some how I am stuck at this size compared to my previous easy way of reaching large sizes. However the definition of painful versus uncomfortable is something I need to learn. When I insert this toy the shaft is 7.5 inch and the head is 8.5 inch circumference. When reaching the largest size of the head I can feel the sphincter, but not in a painful way for me to let go and stop, more of a stretched to the max feeling, I guess. This location is where I usually keep the toy for a while, before inserting all the way in and then the stretching feeling is gone, until its time to push it out, not at all painful but very tight.

Is this at the border between the comfort zone and painful, or not? I am trying to find out what is the painful "amount of pain". I guess my body will tell me, but that's where I am stranded right now.

Is there a way of describing the pain when you need to stop?

My training schedule is in the weekend daily, and during the week at least every other day.

It's my goal to reach for a fist, but I don't care how long it will take me.

You may have reached a plateau that could take weeks or months to pass. The anus is a muscle and you can stretch it, but like any muscle in your arm or leg, if you tear it, even slightly, it will take a very long time to heal and as a worse case, you could end up needing anal reconstruction which will probably end your anal escapades forever. Keep your dilating tools inserted for a good hour a day to cause the anal musculature to grow longer fibers. A 5 year old aspiring gymnast doesn't learn to do leg splits or other severe muscle stretching exercises in a few weeks or months, and a 50 year old or even 30 year old person certainly isn't going to develop the ability for massive anal stretching in a hurry.

There is no way I can say when your discomfort becomes pain or damaging pain. I can't say how long it will take you either.

DON'T rush it. The time you spend will pay off.

@switchablesusie Thank you so much for taking your time and answering my question, greatly appreciated. I will defiantly take your advise. No reason to destroy a great moment in life, just to try to over do it. Thanks.

My time will come, and yes I am 51 and all things in life takes more time then when I was a young kid. 😃

(and if I feel I wont reach my goal of a fist, then that's okay. I enjoy where I am now.)

Like everyone says and I'll agree. you have to take your time. everything falls back in place. but sooner or later it goes in with no problem.

I've never tried it myself but I'm curious. Does this keep you open?

I've never tried it myself but I'm curious. Does this keep you open?

NO, it doesn't.

I kindly like to give an update for those that are also training and doing this in a safe way by taking it a little in the time. Since my post here two weeks ago, on 2014.09.30 I have trained almost every day, and now it has been 2 weeks later that I can say that the size I mentioned then, now is more comfortable and much easier to work with. So we are talking just little increments, I guess probably 1/4 of an inch. but when done without rushing you will get there. My point as stated by various experts, take your time and go little by little... 😃

Oh and BTW, the butt will close up, no it does not stay open.

edit:

In circumference this is like 3/8 of an inch, 1cm.

When measuring results for diameters above 2"1/2 who equal 63.5 mm it is more accurate to measure the circumference, measurements will be easier too

Will do, Arthur, I actually created a table with metric to standard measurements of circumference versus diameter and area, so I can compare the two.

Although I live in the USA, since I'm originally Dutch, I'm still used to the metric system.

So on my previous post the circumference has increased by 1cm, or about 3/8 of an inch.?

I'd just like to add my thanks to Susie for her experience and advice, and to all others enjoying anal fisting and the feeling of stretching. I discovered the exquisite pleasure/twinge of pain of stretching while in the shower using various shampoo bottles, bottom end first. The first time I pushed one in past "that point" I quivered all over and my knees very nearly buckled. Those experiences were spread over many years with several months in between. Recently I've been enjoying being fisted by my regular American massage therapist several times as well as by three different Asian massage "parlor" ladies. The American lady does a much better job, so much so that I can only suspect she may be deriving some amount of pleasure from it herself. All the Asians expressed surprise, shock and even concern, claiming it was the first time a client had requested such a thing. My wife has also inserted a water bottle (2.5" dia) into me, at nearly 70 her wrists are too weak to fist me.

With perhaps fifteen or so such pleasurable stretches over the past six months I must admit I am experiencing a level of residual looseness in my sphincter. I hope it tightens back up over time if I refrain from such frequent pleasures.

There are first class, average and poor quality "workers" for all jobs, hobbies . . .

Thanks for sharing, sticknclikit, I think I can relate a little to your experience. Although I have not been fisted, I am riding the doc Johnson magical hand, cowgirl style, the size of it and tightness of my butt, are a perfect match.

Such a pleasure when you feel the knuckles past the sphincter and I can only imagine what a real hand or fist will be.

. . . . I can only imagine what a real hand or fist will be.

Because we can rotate our hand and wiggle our fingers inside you!

It's like comparing McDonalds to fine dining.

I agree with all the others about Susie. As I tend to learn best in a hands-on, tactile or kinesthetic way, it is super important for me to have a teacher who can almost replace words with a picture and I find that Susie does that. I think Susie is a great educator who focuses on getting the info into the student's head, more than just displaying how much she knows, so thanks @Susie.

Thank you!

Oh Susie, I want it so bad. 😃 Thanks for the imaginary moment.

One time fisted, and I am addicted . . .

Again, Susie is right. The fact that a real caring hand can be wriggled about and rotated makes all the difference in the world. With my massage therapist I'm face down, the nice back and leg massage slowly evolves into centering on my cheeks then anus. First one finger then two, three, four.. I'm groaning and bucking up against her in rhythm with her pushes. As I open up to her it's kind of a mutual understanding of the right time to both go for the push of her knuckles past my sphincter and up inside. Once she's in and slowly thrusting and twisting I start humping the mattress. She reaches her other lubed hand under me to grasp my penis. We continue like this until I explode in her hand. I am basically out of control, or under the control of her talented hands. She waits for my breathing to slow and I calm down before she slowly withdraws her hand.. Again the knuckles provide more shots of pleasure on the way out. She continues to stimulate the area awhile before turning aside to clean up. She wipes me clean with steamed towels and has me turn on my back with another steamed towel folded under the nape of my neck and a soft dry cloth placed over my eyes. She cleans my front side then continues the other front half of the massage. Finishing she usually murmurs with a smile that I'll sleep good that night. She starts letting the shower get hot for me and if there are no other therapists left in the building she waits in the bathroom and helps to scrub the massage oil off my back..

Paradise on earth. One day I will. ?

Stiknclikit

In what city and state is it legal for a licensed massage therapist to do that?

A "body rub" person or "massage parlor ladies" as you called them on craigslist or backpage-yes, but not a licensed therapist.