Colon tube - how long for complete insertion?

I'd like a tube large enough to just fill my entire large intestine (touch the cecum?!) at full insertion to the flange. I don't think I'd like 'hitting bedrock' with a bunch of the tube still outside of me... I can routinely take a 18"x1.5" double dildo the entire way. Navigating the sigmoid is no problem and the tip ends up right at the junction of the descending/transverse colon (splenic flexure).

I'm looking at getting a colon tube from siliconenozzles.com and I'm hoping to get advice regarding length/width/firmness required to make my dreams a reality. Most sites claim the colon is 5' long, which would suggest a 60" tube, but that seems a bit large especially when I measure out where I imagine the rest of my colon being knowing that 18" gets me to the splenic flexure. That said I've seen posts on here claiming to have taken an entire 60" tube - how does that work? I imagine it would have to double-up at some point or does it actually pass through the cecum into the small intestine? Do super-soft tubes contract length-wise when they encounter friction, turning a 60" tube into a 48"?

As for width, I love the fullness of my 1.5" dildo so I was going to shoot for the 103fr (1.35") or 122fr (1.6") tubes, probably at the #003 or #005 softness. Does anyone have experience with an ultra-long 103/122fr tube? I'm assuming that a 1.35-1.6" width is so wide as to not have to worry about the tube doubling back? Is that too wide to make the appropriate turns into/out of the transverse colon?

Thanks for any help!

Before I put anything in my anus, I put some lube (I use KY) on my finger and put it in and move it around to spread the lube around. Of course, it feels good to put my finger in anyhow.

I start my 4 quart using a nozzle which is a dildo I modified. It feels good moving in and out. After I have put in a quart or a bit more, I take it out and put in a colon tube. I always re-lube my hole before I start putting the tube in. Sometimes I will need to lube the tube after it has gone in a ways also. What I have found is that if I try to put a colon tube all of the way in before the first quart, it hits the end of my rectum and will not go around the corner and up. Instead, it doubles back on itself and ends up right at my anus. Even with the quart in, I have to push sensitively or it will not go around the corners and doubles back on me, so do not force it. I also found that the two tubes that I used were too flexible and would easily double back, no matter what I did, no matter how carefully and sensitively I pushed it in. It could be very frustrating to put it in several times and have it double back each time. If I am suspicious that it has doubled back, I lube my finger and push it in and feel around. If all that I can feel is the tube going in, I am in good shape, but if I can feel the end of the tube also, I have to pull it most of the way out, leaving only 5-6" in, and start over.

To reduce the flexibility problem, I put four lengths of weed-whacker string into the smaller diameter one, and six into the larger one, That stiffened them up considerably, but I can still have troubles with it doubling back.

What I have to do after the first quart or so is to push it in until it sort of stops and then move it in and out until it somehow makes it past the corner. This is not all bad, though, because it feels good to have it going in and out.

I have a 60" (32fr) tube which I have put in all of the way, or at least I thought it had gone from anus to cecum, but now I think it probably goes in and doubles back on itself somewhere inside of me. I have a 48" tube a bit larger, and I find that sometimes it will not go in more than somewhere between half and three-quarters of its length before it refuses to go more. When I force it, it curls up on itself, which I can sort of feel, but when I am taking it out, I can really tell that it was coiled up somehow.. So, just experiment and find out how much really goes in.

I can tell you nothing about larger diameter tubes for I have no experience with them. Just try different ones and find out which one(s) you prefer. Be willing to spend some money on things that you cannot use after all in order to find the one that you like.

hankb

I have a 122 fr tube at 005 softness that I can take into the transverse, but no further. Honestly, I'd be satisfied taking it only into the descending if it was firmer. Then I have a 75 fr tube in 10 softness. I can take that all the way into the ascending. In the end the tubes provide the most stimulation in the sigmoid and descending. I've found that insertion as deep as possible isn't as much fun as fucking my ass and colon with the tube using a thrusting action with or without flow. Hold a bullet vibe up to the the tube and I shoot a great load.

After a cleansing soapsuds enema I am able to fully insert my 30" colon tube while taking a 4 quart enema. I start by inserting 6 inches or so , then releasing the clamp to begin the water flow. I then begin to push the colon tube back and forth each time going a little deeper. I also do kegal exercises that seem to help the tube continue its journey. It is much easier to take the four quarts with a fully inserted colon tube.

Why is it necessary to insert the tube so deep inside? I don't think it helps any.

The colon is like a slinky toy.

The colon taken out of your body, stretched out on a table would be five feet long.

IN your body it is a little over three feet unless you have a tortuous colon.

Lay a hose on your abdomen traced over the area of your colon--you'll see.

Mine is between 40 and 46 inches depends if i push the transverse up and straighten its droop then it it takes less than 40 to bottom out against the cecum and thats with an empty colon no water if i let the transverse hang low i can go to 46 a colon is about shop vac hose size just hold one up and make all the anatomical bends around your belly then measure you will be pretty close

122 fr (1st Post)

It depends on how stretched you colon is. Mine is used to 3” diameter toys and I have the same problem with colon tubes doubling back on itself and will eventually coil up and fill the colon to the point where it will hurt to insert anymore. That’s when I know that it has doubled back and is not going in the desired direction.

I have the CT-75French Silicone Serpentine Colon Tube (68” length, 1” dia, 012 semi soft, 1/4” bore) from Silicon Nozzles and can get it fully inserted almost every time and yes its about 48” into the small intestine which feels really good filling the small intestine first then allowing the enema to slowly trickle down to fill the colon.

I recently ordered the next size CT-103French Silicone Serpentine Colon Tube (68” length, 1.35” dia, 005 + soft, 5/16” bore) Actual length is 74” inches with the retention ball style.

I have been able to get it past all the bends in the colon only two times and was able to fully insert the entire length. Once past the last bend of the colon the last obstacle is getting it into the small intestine then no problem to fully insert going slow while injecting lube as it goes in (4 quarts of J-Lube in the bag but usually use less than a quart).

My other insertion attempts with this larger tube were unsuccessful because the colon tube would double back on itself and could not insert more than half. I think it would have been better to get the 12 Simi Soft instead with a smaller bore so it would be firmer and less likely to double back on itself.

I don’t know for sure if it’s the larger diameter that’s causing the problem or if it’s the fact that it is a softer material with a larger bore. I suspect the later. Anyway, the larger size is almost too thick for the small intestine to allow the enema to trickle down to the colon. As far as the thickness, I have had 1.75” diameter in the small intestine with no pain at all, just fullness.

If you only want to reach the cecum, lay a hose on your abdomen over the area of your colon and then measure it. I suspect it will be 30 to 36 inches depending on your body size. No need to get the longer tubes unless you want to go farther than the cecum.

Hi, nike-e

I recall that you replied to my thread asking for opening ileocecal valve. You mentioned that you managed to get the tube through the valve. I thought that it is more difficult than just opening the valve by water pressure. But I may need to reconsider. So I must retract my previous comment "I don't think it helps any."

Hi, gallonist

I remember you said in your thread that you have in the past been able to open the ileocecal valve and that you really liked the feeling.

I have taken large volume enemas and after holding for several minutes will add more water until very full, then stop the flow, restart the flow after a few minutes, then stop and repeat until the ileocecal valve finally opens. I don’t like doing it that way because it forces bacteria into the small intestine.

I have a homemade colon tube constructed with 5 feet of 9/16” OD x 3/8” ID vinyl tubing with a short piece (3/4” long) of larger vinyl tube slipped over the end and then rounded to make a ball tip. The other end of the tube is connected to the output end of a ¾” PVC check valve. The input of the check valve is then connected to 18” of the same vinyl tubing. Everything has been smoothed out and the check valve is also a good retention device when inserted.

Surprisingly the ball tip actually helps navigate all the bends in the colon and small intestine. I have no problem getting it fully inserted every time (approx. 6 feet with check valve inserted a few inches past the inner Sphincter). I don’t remove the colon tube to expel, just push the check valve in an inch or two to let the water escape. I can fill completely and expel several times until completely clear. I always mix the appropriate amount of salt to avoid water intoxication.

I have not been able to get a normal colon tube all the way to the cecum unless it has a ball tip. Not sure why the ball tip helps, it just does.

To sum it up for those of us who enjoy being really full (not over full); when the small intestine and colon are completely distended you may experience the ultimate enema pleasure which is a lot more intense than just a full colon.

Hi, nike-e

Thank you for describing how to make and use the tube. It is very interesting. How do you round the tip? How much diameter is the ball?

Even though I could make the same thing, I have an issue. Since my anus is so loose that I cannot hold more than 3 quarts without help of my big retention nozzle "Sandan". It might be difficult to connect the tube on top of the nozzle.

Discuss this with Bob at SiliconeNozzles. He is very dedicated and creative and I'm sure that if anyone can he will be able to give you what you are looking for. I personally doubt the possibility of being able to insert any kind of tube all the way through the entire length of the colon without active flex-guiding control such as in colonoscopy probes. A possible risk occurs to me in attempting such penetration: disturbing the "lay" of the colon leading to twists or other types of blockage such as enveloping folds.

Gallonist

I used a short piece of ¾” OD x ½” ID vinyl tube for the tip rounded it using a fine file. After it’s rounded, I slipped it over the 9/16” OD tube then smooth the end with the file. It is very tight and there is no chance it will come off.

If you need a larger retention ball at the base try using a larger check valve. I got mine at the hardware store.

The following PVC check valves as an example:

3/4” PVC Check valve OD = 1 ¾”

1” PVC Check Valve OD = 2 ¼”

1 ¼” PVC Check Valve OD = 3 1/8”

Like any colon tube you will need to inject enema to expand the colon so you can get past the curves being careful not to force it using the “in till there is resistance, then out and back in again” technique. With patience and being very careful you will eventually be able to get past the curves.

If you order a colon tube from silicon nozzles, at checkout you can request a larger retention ball and I’m pretty sure they will make every effort to make it for you. I would suggest that you start with the CT-75French Silicone Serpentine Colon Tube if you plan to go past the ileocecal valve, 12 Simi Soft with the Retention Ball Style. (siliconenozzles.com/product.sc?productId=109&categoryId=7)

Or you can email them and ask as Archimedes suggests. (siliconenozzles.com/contactus.sc)

My CT-75French Silicone Serpentine Colon Tube didn’t have the Retention Ball Style option when I ordered it so I use a 1” PVC Check Valve (2 ¼” OD) and it works very well to keep the colon tube in and also helps with holding the enema.

A word of caution, Switchablesusie is correct; Blind insertion could cause life threatening injury and should not be attempted.

Gallonist: "Why is it necessary to insert the tube so deep inside? I don't think it helps any."

You are wrong, for by inserting a long tube inside you will be able to pass through all the gas assemblies in the colon that cause the problems during a high enema.

It isn't at all physiologically necessary to insert a tube so far to get solution as far up your colon as you desire. The water can get past any gas or solid blockage MUCH MUCH easier than a colon tube can.

The only reason to get a tube very far up the colon is because it is fun to do it.

I find that getting a tube up about 11 inches injects the water way above all the nerve endings in the rectal area that tell you that you have to expel at once. I can take in much more water without the discomfort of a short rectal tube. I can rarely get the entire length of a colon tube inserted all the way. That usually requires knee-chest position with someone else doing the insertion slowly with starts and stops of the flow and the in and out push-pull of the colon tube.

Ricini

I had retracted the comment in my post#7 as "So I must retract my previous comment "I don't think it helps any." However, I am still skeptical if it is really necessary as Switchablesusie suggested. Could be easier to get through the ileocecal valve by fluid than the tube. Anyway, I am not really satisfied by just filling my colon. There may be various ways to achieve it.

Blindly working a colon tube through the ileocecal valve is NOT the same thing as having a colonoscopy and having the scope go through the ileocecal valve. With a colonoscopy, he can see where he is going. You are just pushing a colon tube until you feel something happen.

Blind insertion can cause injury that could require surgery to correct.

It's been interesting reading the posts on the "conquest" of inserting a colon tube all the way to the small intestine. As a play safe kinda gal, I would suggest that this type of insertion is fraught with potential peril. As Susie states, a trained doctor with the colonoscope can see what's going on and where the scope is at all times. Blindly inserting a tube and trying to breach a one-way valve seems awfully scary to me. Introducing bacteria from the colon into the small bowel has potentially serious ramifications.

This is a serious matter...so have fun...but above all...play safe!

Deb

In inserting a well lubed colon tube with a length of 80 cm (about 32 inches) during an enema, this very slowly and carefully, you will never have any problems.

I always felt there were two good reasons to have a partner give me an enema using a colon tube:

1) To experience the trust and intimacy of allowing another person to deeply penetrate me anally';

2) To have the colon completely filled with very warm soapy water with less discomfort and the sudden urge to release.

Important to have a small enema first to clear a path, making insertion of the tube go more smoothly. Equally important, my partner goes very slowly and even though the tube is 30 " long, she only need to get it into the transverse colon, which is only 12 to 14 inches deep. Once the tube is in place, she starts the enema and moves the tube in and out a couple of inches, which keeps the water flowing and me smiling!

Whatever you insert into your rectum/colon, you want it to be very well lubed and to go slow. When inserting a long colon tube, I have several 4 foot colon tubes and a 5 foot colon tube, you want to go very slowly and if there is any resistance, don't force the tube further because you may do damage!!!