Creepy Doctors And Patients

Ladies and gents-

Have you ever had a weird, sketchy patient or healthcare provider that you refused to see, kicked to the curb, or warned your friends, family, or colleagues about- because something about their attitude, mannerisms, things they said, or their facial expressions made you uncomfortable, made your internal warning buzzer go off, or even scared you?

Have you ever had to complain to the medical board about a pervy doctor or hateful nurse, or boot a pervy, stalkerish, or lovesick patient out of your practice?

I have complained officially about HIPAA privacy violations and insurance fraud, never about sexual misconduct.

I have discharged patients from my massage therapy practice for sexual misconduct such as inappropriate touching or inappropriate propositions, both after repeated warnings.

A friend of recently saw a gyn that kept adjusting himself, both in his office and during exam. She is not going back.

11 years ago my right testicle enlarged to a size larger than a golf ball. I went to a local county funded clinic for a urology clinic referral. My assigned N. P. told me, "you know, I am going to have to examine you first!" So I consented.

I took down my pants, & to facilitate a quick easy exam, held up my penis & shirt tail with one hand, covering up my penis with the shirt tail. (I wasn't consciously aware of what I was doing, & didn't do this out of modesty-it was the only logical thing to do. I made what was supposed to be a quick exam easy.)

The nurse, at a lower level than me, maybe kneeling or squatting, looked up at me in annoyance. Like a dominatrix she yelled, "LET ME DO THE EXAM!!!"

Dumbfounded, I let go of my shirt tail, & held it up exposing my penis. That seemed to placate her. She quickly grabbed my penis, & casually flipped it up. While simply holding my penis as a prop, she looked up at me and asked, "which testicle is it that your having trouble with?" I told her my right one. She began examining my left testicle (the healthy one, the one on HER right!) and said, "Oh, I see what you mean, that's pretty bad!"

I had to correct her, telling her that it was the other one. The right one, was literally hanging down 3 inches lower than the left. She really didn't need to touch or feel it. Frankly if she wasn't so distracted over my hiding my penis from her, she could've seen just how obvious the problem was. The right testicle took up more than two thirds of the scrotum, with the dividing scrotal skin seam scewed WAY off center. Of course this was lost on her because of my seeming reticence to expose myself to her. (When it comes to her ilk it doesn't pay to be a gentleman.)

For those inclined to defend or rationalize her actions by saying something to the effect of, "she was probably trained as a professional to do an 'incidental penis exam' while examining the testicals". I can tell you she just flipped 'it' up & immediately looked at me while holding it.

Furthermore, even if she had been trained to do an incidental penis exam while examining the scrotum, she should of been taught to tell the patient what she wanted to do & procede with permission. I am circumsized, observent, intelligent, & in tune with my body to know if I have a problem with my penis! A physician helping himself to an incidental penis exam w/o my consent is both an encroachment & insult to my intelligence.

When I first went to the clinic & found out that I was assigned a nurse practitioner, I had a spontaneous vision of a domineering female professional attending to my privates like a caring governess. My "knee-jerk" visceral response was one of delighted anticipation, however on an intellectual level I had no intent of taking advantage of anyone, nor did I foresee any circumstances in which I would be exposing myself. I don't do regular exams, particularly on my genitals.) Onely a few times in my adult life have I had minor concerns about my reproductive health, & they invariably lead to bizarre incidents.)

Less than a year prior to that incident, I went to her with an infected eye asking for antibiotic eye drops, & she told me she wanted to do a prostate exam right then & there. When I refused she seemed utterly surprised.

I did want to report her for her crass yelling & behavior. If I had it to do over again I'd take full advantage of her. Go with that initial, almost child-like, gut reaction to finding out I was assigned a nurse practitioner. I couldn't get quality healthcare anyway, she was a joke--didn't know her right from her left. But I could've checked my brain at the door and gotten kindly till the cows come home. In that respect she seemed quite accommodating.

Sorry for not proof reading. Not well written. At the bottom I wrote that I could get "Kinky" with her till the cows come home, & my androids spell checker changed kinky to kindly.

Yes, our pediatrician when we were young adolescent (my older sister and me). He was creepy and touched us in ways we thought were wrong. We told my mom and we never had to go back.

I am not sure if this fits in with creepy or weird, but my doctor doing my sports physical my junior year of high school (I was 17), wanted me to either get an erection or to bring in photos of my erection because he felt some scar tissue in my flaccid penis that he thought might lead to curvature. At the time I thought a doctor wanting pictures of my dick was strange as hell. I understand now that it was proper procedure, but at the time it felt strange.

I ended up getting an erection in the office, for I did not want my parents to ask why I had to go back. There was no curvature at the time but it is still on my medical file for future examiners to check it when conducting a physical on me.

I wish that any of the doctors who have examined me would have palpated my penis to that extent. Usually they just look and never even touch. When a doctor has touched my penis, it is either to hold it out of the way while he does the testicular or hernia exam or to just hold it briefly to spread open the meatus.

Normbinnings that was completely inappropriate, unethical, and probably criminal in nature. Feeling you up as a part of an exam is one thing (all guys go through the testicular exam) but asking for photos is not proper procedure. It ends right there. If that happened to my son that doctor would spend the rest of his life eating his lunch through a fucking straw.

At the time I thought a doctor wanting pictures of my dick was strange as hell.

Why not transpose this to a politician asking for pictures of a 17 year old's genitals via Facebook ... boy what a scandal that would make.

Why not transpose this to a politician asking for pictures of a 17 year old's genitals via Facebook ... boy what a scandal that would make.

The difference is that a doctor could claim that photographic evidence was needed to document an abnormality. Photos are used ethically by many doctors to document issues.

I still agree that this guy was probably not being ethical.

I remember a pediatrician that I had he was real creepy looking and he always talked like he was yelling! I remember him having huge hands and just not liking him! I told mom and daddy this but I had to keep seeing him till he retired! luckily that was only a few visits for me!

A friend of mine mentioned his GP seems to enjoy giving the hernia exam quite a bit. My friend says it is a small price to pay to get a fist full of Ambien.

I am not sure if this fits in with creepy or weird, but my doctor doing my sports physical my junior year of high school (I was 17), wanted me to either get an erection or to bring in photos of my erection because he felt some scar tissue in my flaccid penis that he thought might lead to curvature. At the time I thought a doctor wanting pictures of my dick was strange as hell. I understand now that it was proper procedure, but at the time it felt strange.

I ended up getting an erection in the office, for I did not want my parents to ask why I had to go back. There was no curvature at the time but it is still on my medical file for future examiners to check it when conducting a physical on me.

You know, I'm no expert, but that's probably not within the venue of a sports doc exam. The reason for the exam is to make sure playing that particular sport will cause you injury. (Where you on the men's Fuck Team?) I'm inclined to think that that much attention to your penis in a sport exam is a bit over the top. If he, in fact, did notice scar tissue, referring you to a urologist would be a little more proper.

There was a bit of an advantage to not referring you to a urologist. That's not getting your parents involved.

This whole thread about "creepy or weird" docs is predicated on the basis, or understanding that weird actions on the part of some docs is unethical & immoral.

The irony is that this is a MedFet sight. A MedFed world is one in which our doctors are complete pervs & creeps. I find it incongruous that even I get offended when a "professional" seems to be acting like the creepy medical pervs in my own creepy pervy fantasies! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Why bash these people? (For us I guess it kinda depends on who the professional is--age, gender, etc.)

My problem is that on a level these professionals really are very clinical, & their propensity to bully patients out of their clothes (when not necessary) is ultimately a mere power trip. It's not entirely sexual, but on a level it is a form of sexual bullying. That type of clinical arrogance tends to permeate all aspects of the way in which doctors practise. For example: a) prescribing medications that they know little about (only what a Pharma sales rep tells them) and not seeming to care if the drugs don't work, or are even harmful; b) selling info about you (Hippa); c)refusing to treat you unless you sign away your Constitutional right to sue (arbitration); the list goes on & on.

This "creepiness" is inherent in the whole institution. In many cases we misinterpret their intentions. We may think it's sexual (& in some cases it is) but in lots of cases we're being treated like a piece of meat, and that is just as bad.

I must've been about 10 or so.

While visiting an Uncle and Aunt in a very small, very conservative town, there was a newspaper story being discussed. Sitting in my Uncle's living room, there was me, My Aunt and Uncle, of course, and two girls who lived a few houses away.

The story was about a doctor who had been beaten up severely by a local mob consisting of many people from that very neighbourhood.

The doctor had been 'examining' a young woman - she had just got married and had come to live with her husband in his ancestral home. She had developed a severe pain and had been brought to the doctor by her mother-in-law.

The doctor had taken the young woman inside his chamber and asked the mother-in-law to wait outside.

A little while later, the mother-in-law heard the young woman protesting about something. Her voice was loud enough to be heard in the waiting area.

The mother-in-law along with another man who was also waiting, rushed inside the doctor's chamber.

They saw the young woman cowering in a corner of the room and the doctor holding the end of her sari that was supposed to be draping her left shoulder.

There was an uproar as the doctor was dragged out and thrashed. A crowd quickly gathered and on hearing what had happened, everyone joined in to beat the fellow up.

Eventually the police arrived and broke up the mob.

The doctor, bleeding and semi-conscious, was taken to hospital where spent nearly two months - under security because there were several attempts made by others to beat him up some more.

The two girls commented that he deserved the beating and narrated their own stories about when they had visited the same doctor.

The first girl mentioned that she had visited him for a minor fever. He had insisted on giving her a check-up where he placed his stethoscope on her breasts and rubbed it around.

Then he had made her lie down, remove her jeans completely and given her an injection in her buttocks.

The girl felt that the injection was unnecessary. It had hurt a lot. He needn't have made her remove her jeans totally.

The second girl also added her piece. She had accompanied her father who had a fever.

The doctor gave her father some tablets. Then he turned to her.

He insisted that she could have also got infected with the fever and needed to be checked up.

He made her lie down and began to touch her 'inappropriately'.

He then gave her two very painful injections in her bottom - again making her take off her trousers completely. The fellow also stroked her bottom before and after giving the injections.

The second girl also insisted that the injections were not necessary and that he needn't have even checked her.

Neither of the girls went back.

Everyone expressed appreciation of the mob-justice that had been meted out.

In those days, in such a backward area, the concept of medico-legal cases did not exist - or at least, no one knew about it.

It was easier and quicker - and certainly more gratifying - to just thrash the offender!

The police didn't register a case. They suggested that the doctor leave town, which he did.

While visiting an Uncle and Aunt in a very small, very conservative town, there was a newspaper story being discussed.

...Everyone expressed appreciation of the mob-justice that had been meted out.

...In those days, in such a backward area, the concept of medico-legal cases did not exist - or at least, no one knew about it.

I don't want to sound insensitive or anything but as a devil's advocate playing public defender of sorts, when you describe the town as being a small very conservative place in a backward area, mightn't the main problem be not so much the doctor's treatments, but the way that villagers perceived them? An injection in the buttocks is not that unusual an area for an injection after all. And when being repeated in small communities, stories do grow in the telling, with more interesting details being added as the story spreads. What else is there to do in such places as a distraction but gossip?

This reminds me of somewhat similar circumstances that have occurred from time to time in Belgian hospitals when the husbands of Third World immigrants have vigorously protested and manhandled male doctors treating their wives. Often during off-hours, at night, only male doctors are available for emergency treatments and it's the only option available. And yet, for some people, their culture vehemently objects to males medically treating females, or even having any kind of contact with them at all. Even in life threatening situations or with unexpected (early) births.

So what to do? Not treat the females properly and risk more serious effects later and get the blame for that? Pander to everyone's delicate sensibilities and insist on a complete male/female staff at all times of the day and night?

Here in this country, the problem was tackled by creating explicit ancillary anti-discrimination legislation that punished anyone attacking medical personnel for these reasons, no matter what the cultural or religious beliefs of the 'offended' party were. There is no insisting on medical personnel of the gender of your choice.

Anyway, interesting story by bigshot.

I've mentioned this before on ZB, & it is strictly hearsay.

Recently I visited a social worker for advise on getting on SSI. While on the subject of rude arrogant doctors, the social worker told me of a doctor in her Midwestern hometown who made it office policy for ALL patients to have their temperatures taking rectally. (I know, MedFetter's fool's paradise.)

According to the social worker, this office policy abrubtly came to an end when a former disgruntled male patient attacked the doc outside the local supermarket.

This was supposed to have taken place less than a decade ago. The social worker described all of the other patient's of this doctor as "sheople".

My girlfriend has never experienced a creepy dr her's is about a 35 year old male and she is very comfortable being around him

@Agracier

At the time of the incident, I - an impressionable kid with a crush on those girls - preferred to believe that the doctor was at fault. And only because I blindly believed the girls. It also made for some awesome fantasizing later!

But coming back to reality:

You are indeed correct when you say that the doctor could've been doing the correct thing and people's perceptions and gossip may have been the cause of the trouble. Even today, and in big cities too, family members attack doctors for doing the right thing - only because the patient cried out from the pain of an injection or protested against being asked to uncover a part of their body. It's even more severe in certain more conservative communities.

Unfortunately the law - and its enforcers - have a long way to go here and medical professionals continue to be at risk

Meanwhile, many doctors insist on a female nurse or an female assistant to be present to assure people that the procedures were necessary and that the doctor wasn't up to mischief.

You are also right that patients cannot choose the gender of the healthcare provider. Even today, in many far-flung areas of our country just getting to a doctor is a challenge. So the choice is taking what;s available and getting well or suffering and...dying.

Most choose the former!

I had a doctor (actually he was a surgeon) whom I saw for follow-ups for the surgery on my intestines as a baby. Every time until the last visit when I was 15, he lowered my underwear to look at the bottom of the scar, even though it had been fully healed for years, and until I was 11 or so he always examined my rectum.

Rightly or wrongly I found it creepy. Though she didn't say anything at the time, my mother said she didn't think he had a good manner with his patients which does make me wonder about him at times.

The creepiest doctors I've been to was a free clinic run by a fundamentalist Christian Church. I went when I was uninsured and unemployed. There was nothing sexually creepy, but they incorporated their religion into the medical care. While I have nothing against any religion, I have no interest in being 'saved.' It was just - creepy.

This experience was not really creepy, but I thought it was unusual. I went to a clinic because I had a severe case of poison ivy on my arms and I was wearing a short sleeve shirt so as not to rub on the painful poison ivy. The doctor wanted me to undress and I asked him why as the poison ivy was only on my arms. He never gave me an answer and just went ahead and examined my arms with no further mention of undressing. The arm exam lasted for less than a minute and he wrote a perscription and I left.

Downton,

I'm not saying the doctor wasn't creepy, but poison ivy is notorious for spreading. You scratch your arm, don't wash well enough then pass it to your genitals or anal area in the bathroom. There is medical president for a full exam.

Thankfully, not yet.