Thinking of Leaving ZB

As much as I used to love coming to Zitzy.BiZ, I am thinking of leaving because it has changed so much from when I first joined. Way back then it was called Diaper Dreams and almost all of the members were either DLs or ABs and it was one of the few AB/DL sites that had not only a photo gallery but a place where ABs and DL could actually share life stories and experiences for free but it was someplace where DLs and ABs didn't feel so isolated and alone. But lately it seems there less DLS and even less ABs giving their opinions on any AB or DL related, even the Gallery has less and less DL or AB photos. Having worn a catheter for close to six months I fail to understand the appeal sexual or otherwise or enemas for that matter. What I'm trying to say,I guess, is that I really liked it here where I thought I could read and relate to other ABs and not feel so all alone. I doubt I'll find another adult baby site as good as this one was. I haven't quite made up my mind yet because I am and will always be an adult toddler and I would like to share my feeling and experiences with adult babies and diaper lovers I hope you guys understand.

You still have Diaper Dreams. It's the Diaper Wearing section. The totality of Zity.Biz has just become more diversified.

As far as your not understanding the appeal of enemas is concerned, a lot of people don't understand the appeal of wearing a diaper--dirty or otherwise. They simply don't go to that section.

Hey I am not judging anyone. Not everyone is into the same things. It's just that it seems to me AND ONLY ME that it used to more fun when there was a lot more diversity and when you went into the Gallery there was something for everyone. I could refresh my own photos but there is nothing new in them and I would need a friend's help in posting them from old pre-digital cameras to the Gallery. I have gone to the Age-Play-Regression Section, but even there seems to be less input. I guess I just want more Adult Babies to share with not to make enemies Sorry if I offended people.

Thumper, there's no offense taken at all and I understand your feelings.

It seems the problem isn't the presence of other groups, but that the DL/AB people are submitting fewer photos to the gallery. Maybe the increase in photos ending up where original posters don't want them has caused a decrease in submissions. Many people, especially professionals and business people don't want their identities associated with fetishes--especially with graphic photos on pornographic websites. I know I don't. I have a reputation to maintain and so does my husband!!!!!!! 😁 😁 😁 Stuff my husband and I do would make great photos and videos [and we're a good looking couple too], but we have exactly ZERO photos and videos of our activities.

Maybe this section needs to promote submitting peoples' photos of their play time to the gallery. Maybe blacking out faces like Dr SJ does in the medfet section is needed. Although it is interesting to note that his patients only have their eyes blacked out while he has his entire face blacked out. ? ? ?

So glad that you understand, Swtchablesusie.

I can totally understand where you are coming from , I am sorry to hear you are thinking about leaving. I have always enjoyed your presents on Zity.. in the diaper section 😃 . Thumper, I hope that maybe the diaper section does get a little busier and such. I do know that there is probably a bigger enema / med fet population and I am also sure there are some closet Ab/Dl lovers out there too 😃

Hang in there Thumper 😃

Hi Thumper,

Diapers aren't my fetish so I don't know what other sites are around.

If you were to leave Zity.Biz, where would you go or what would you do? It seems silly to leave and not go anywhere. I think you guys and gals need to rally to get more member participation and photo submissions here. Leaving would be counterproductive.

Do other AB/DL sites have the same problem with either small memberships or small photo galleries? Are other sites more active than Zity.Biz?

What's your experience?

Thumper, I understand what you're saying. This site seems to be active with enema users, but not so with DLs. Only problem is it's the most accepting site I've found. Both ADISC and DailyDiapers are full of self righteous idiots who criticize you for every little thing. I think the forum posting requirements have caused people to shy away from posting photos, but it's still the best forum available. Hope you stay.

Hi Thumper ! -- Ever considered that even diapers & enemas sometimes share a "meaningfull" relationship....Noticed the proliferation of this very theme amongst a broad range of "Adult" porn (video /dvd clip) sites. .Seems to me that all quirks are catered for ??

I can see where most people are coming from " Different strokes for different folks" but I have also seen photos and videos of women in particular getting spanked,caned or whipped to the point of bleeding and I myself could never do that to a woman or her beautiful soft bum. As far as catheters and enemas go, to beat a dead horse, having worn a catheter for five months I found nothing pleasurable or erotic about them and having been given enemas as a toddler from both parents in order to speed up potty training that was also painful and for me never was erotic. The thing about being an Adult Baby for me was seeing the love and attention babies and cloth wearing plastic pantied toddlers got from women made me know that was what I wanted and being forced to wear cloth diapers and pink and yellow plastic panties by nuns in kindergarten just reinforced it. I just love to look at female bottoms in photos of even seeing them in jeans on the street and it's hard to picture them with a enema tube coming out of their butts or very painful and even scaring.cane or whip scars on them. I'm sure most people don't get my love cloth diapers,plastic pants and wanting to feel like a baby.

To answer Switchablesusie, when I first got into computers out of curiosity, it was at a computer café and I asked one of the servers how to log on and when I searched for Adult babies of infantilism I got hundreds of ab web sites. over the years they started disappearing until re were only a few left and when I found what was then Diaper Dreams zity.biz I was curious and in order to get enough points to go into the Gallery I had to put out my share of contributions and share my experiences and opinions I found a place where I was welcome and where I didn't so all alone and isolated or made to feel like a freak. I have found no other web sites that is so busy and as friendly and open as this one. It just seems that there a not as many ABs as there used to be while I share my love diapers,(mostly cloth) and plastic pants with DLs the one difference with me is that after masturbating into and cuming into my cloth diapers and plastic pants I still feel like wanting to be a baby.

Sounds stellar 😄 Hey your a canuck too 😃

Hi thumper, You have been an important contributor for as long as I've been on Zity and you would be missed by those of us who enjoy variety and a diverse input. Why not just slow down a little and check in every other day and check topics that may lead indirectly to AB?

That's the one big reason for me to stay, because how friendly and supportive we all are of each other. I really don't think there is another site as good as this one.

Thumper have you ever looked at my galleries? If not you should really take a look. It would not be the same without you around.

Hey Thumper, I don't think I have to tell you how I would feel if you left here for good. I have to say, lately for myself, I have not been real active here. And I know it's the same for lots of other long times here. Things have slacked off, yes. But, it's still an active place, and we can come here any time. I so luv to have this site, and am very grateful it continues to hold a place for us to come, and for new people to find. You are right, it's not what it once was, but like many things in life, there is a high and low here, or like the oceans tide. I don't know, maybe it will never be what it once was, or maybe it will be better? But, if we all bail, it will for sure be a low point. I don't know of a better place, and I still, even though my life right now has got me away from here more then I would like, I still come here, check in, and catch up. I wish I could do more, and I want to. I can't make a promise, but one thing I want to do, is add more photos here. When the time is right for me, I will.

I luvs it here, and I luv coming here to be with like minded people.

And as for the other fetish subjects, other than DL and AB, I feel it's like our friendly neighbors. We can share a lot, and some things not, but they like us are doing their thing, and we ours. And sometimes you need to borrow a cup of sugar! Or Castle soap, etc...

I have thought about going into the chat rooms here for both Diaper Wearing and Age Play but the last time I was in a chat was when Widows still had Messenger, I don't know if it still does. I bought a cheap microphone from Radio Shack and because of the mike being too cheap or whatever no one could hear me plus my typing is slow and I also make way too many typos so I don't go into the chat rooms. Maybe like you and me , Luvs It, the ABs are just bored and have moved on. I wish I could add something new to either the Diaper Wearing or Age Play-Age Regression Forums but nothing mush is happening as for as wanting to feel like toddler and the cloth diaper and plastic pants wearing goes and I don't have half the imagination that our old friend the Elf had to come with the kind of stories he had, to try come up with new fantasies. they would all end up being the same. I will keep coming back to see if there is anything new in either of those topics to see if I could any thing new myself. Nice to hear from you Luvs it and all the rest of you DLs and ABs, new and old. I apologise if offended some of the members with that word "old".

I don't know if you left or what your experiences have been. Personally I just found this site and simply amazed by the fact I have not seen any cliche behavior from its members. I came from diaperspace which ran down hill. Im also on fetlife and that has plenty of self righteous ABDL cliche members that attack anyone not acceptable to themselves. I also had issues with dailydiapers allowing a pedophile on their boards and not taking responicibility and removing them. So far so good here. Hopefully it gets better for you.

I have not left ZB but when I first became a member this site was called Diaper Dreams and was mostly a site where AB's Dl's could chat and share exclusively and I miss that. I am not judgemental of anyone especially DL's. While I share their love for diapers,cloth or disposables my reasons for wearing cloth diapers and plastic panties are mostly for infantile purposes and while I vigorously masturbate while wearing and using them for their desired purpose, it is only to fulfill my need to be nurtured and mothered. This has been the only place where I am able to share my feeling and thought with other ABs and DLs. Even in the Age Play-Age Regression Forum there seems to be less contributions from ABs which makes me think that The ABs are getting less and less. That is all I'm saying.

Changes like this are common to social networking sites as they grow. I'm an early member of Fetlife (under a different name) and have seen similar changes there. At first, it was a discussion site for kinksters. It's morphed into more of a hook up site. Some of us don't allow that behavior in our groups, but the clueless horny crowd gets in everywhere.

Such is the life cycle of social media.

I understand that some members were not comfortable with the idea of combining multiple sites as one. That merging took place few years ago.

I strongly believe that it was a good thing to do. It might have saved some less active sections those might have died because lack of activity. Diaper fetish exists here as separate section. Well to be exact as two separate sections. So all diaper related is in those.

Now as there are some other sections - there is a possibility and it also happens that new members who didn't know about diaper kink find it and learn to like it and eventually diaper section gets new participating members.

Point well taken webmaster, but jillt has a point too. For example it's still too common to find classified ads placed in the wrong sections - annoying if your interest is exclusively medfet and you have to wade through unrelated requests for enemas and so forth.

That of course should be the responsibility of individual members of the board - make sure that you are posting your ad in the right section, and make sure too that anything you want to say in the forum is placed in an appropriate thread. The webmaster and moderators can't always be expected to do your work for you. But an occasional reminder to members to observe the rules wouldn't be a bad idea.

I wish, like it has been stated in many earlier posts, that members would not worry too much what other fetishes this site hosts. If one does not care about suppositories for example why not just skip that section.

Diaper fetish has, compared to suppositories for example, a very big section with multiple sub boards devoted just for diapers.

I'm not sure if all see the bigger picture in this - I mean tiny single thing web site vs. bigger web site that covers more varied subjects. If a web site is big and ranked high in search engine evaluation it means that it gets more new visitors who NEWER knew about the existence of that web site before. Some of those visitors have potentially the same fetish as you do and so they potentially want to communicate in the forum with you. Multi-kink Zity.biz gets 1000 times more visitors than single-kink Diaper-Dreams newer did.

Diaper-Dreams might have survived all these years just alone but as a part of Zity.biz it was guaranteed that it survived.

One other thing is the moderation - have you though that ? Someone needs to do it. A real woman or man - it can not be automated. How would have diaper kink section survived without the significant care from moderators who primarily are interested of something else than diapers but look after it like any other section. Not very well I'm afraid.

I barely ever venture out of the the set forums I do look at. I do see someone posting in the wrong place I tell them they have and that they might want to rethink their post. If a moderator has missed something I do flag it but mostly for links that no longer work. They are busy people and even they need help finding things on this site. Ever since I have joined this site even after the creeps attacked me and I did badly want to leave because of it. I'm still here and I'm glad cause once you get past those people that can't understand what no means it's a great site. The moderators are amazing and the rest of the community is great. Are you really not content with talking to people who share something in common with you? So what if you see a few wrong messages or the topic has moved of course, Push it back on course. I mean if a vehicle was moving in a wrong direction and you are in it would you not try to correct it? The problem with people not posting things is when they come here they are new and shy. I try to reply in a nice comforting way for everyone that posts in the new member's section on all the forums(if possible). I want them to see that is site was a great pick out of the many others. I want people to feel comfortable with sharing, knowing we won't judge them for it.

On a side note I did go to fetlife but after I got attacked for how I worded my Bio. I stopped logging on as much as I didn't feel I needed the worthless drama. Plus after you try to post in places you think will be seen they never or rarely are replied to. From what I saw no one is on fetlife that is into AB/DL stuff or they just don't care about new members. I just know I didn't enjoy the site as much as it was hyped up to be. I did how ever find a few(about 5 or 6) great people to talk to but it seems no one goes on fetlife anymore. I was on an Ab/dl art site and I left it pretty fast once I saw all the really bad and over used art on it. There was some nice people but there will always be that one that totally ruins everything for you. I highly doubt that I'll ever leave this site. It's now become my home.

@Thumper

Being into BDSM and its multiple categories that are associated, one thing that is stated to us is be tolerant of other people's fetishes, even if you don't understand it. I try to be tolerant all everyone's personal preferences although I will never understand the furries and the group's that do role play on anime characters. That being said, I also do not understand the allure of AB/DL. When you explained it earlier that it satisfied a need for nurturing and being mothered, it gave me a new understanding of why people enjoy this particular interest. Although I would probably never be interested in wearing a diaper, you need to understand, I don't wear panties either. I don't like the feel of anything around my groin area.

I am here to learn new things about the fetish groups. Think of the multiple groups here as places to learn about other things. You don't have to be interested in those kinks, but just realize that they can provide a learning experience regarding why people do the things they do. Enemas are nurturing to many of the members that love them. I can give enemas but have not really developed an interest in receiving. I would just as soon be spanking, paddling, strapping, or flogging away on a naked butt and this can't be done well with a diaper. I love seeing a lovely red ass after I have worked it over with impact toys. It is not about providing pain, but taking the bottom/sub to the happy little place inside their head from the endorphins. The floaty feeling is wonderful. To me that is just meeting someone else's needs much like nurturing. We all have our kinks because they provide us with something that we need, no matter what it is. We just get those needs met in different ways. That is why we are all here and why this site has grown. People are more willing to acknowledge their kinks and zity.biz provides a safe place to do it. We are all the same here, in different ways, but kinky.

I think there are so many good ideas and information in the groups that you would miss out. I am not into diapers but if it floats your boat that's cool !

Reading through this thread, and some other comments I have seen here and there, I wanted to comment that one of the things that makes this site so good is that there is a lot of areas covered. The kinks/fetishes covered on this site tend to be ones that are inter-mingled anyway. It is not unusual to find some interested in spanking to be interested in enemas. Someone interested in enemas might be interested in suppositories. Certainly AB folks use suppositories and enemas often to cause diaper filling in a predictable time and volume. I am not interested in diapers or for the most part medfet, but i do find it interesting to read many of your entries and postings - as it is a learning experience, new ideas, and I find that tolerance of others is what makes the world go round.

One of the kinds of postings that does bother me, and I typically skip over, is when the discussion turns to what happend in someone's youth - or worse methods being used on children now. These conversations seem to be of great interest to people with enema, suppository, spanking fetishes - i find these turns in conversation to be distasteful. But .... it is part of the inter-mingling of these fetishes.

Certain sections of the site are lagging behind others, but that is only indicative of those who paticipate in the fetish and how much they are willing to share. I wish the suppository page was more prolific but it isn't.