Early Dealers, where are they now?

In 1973 I met "Dave" who was the person behind "Beth Tyler" and, while it was a working name, there was a real "Beth Tyler" at the time, Mrs. Dave. They later divorced. I helped him with a few projects at the start, until he was on his feet. Probably the worst of times for him was when he was arrested when one of his models was alleged to be underage. That would probably be a lot worse today, it was in the late 70's when he was still in Connecticut. He said he never made a lot of money, and from my experience that would probably be true... and it's worse today, since this is a niche business, and prices have gone down from around $100 for a VHS tape to $20 to $30 for a DVD. Today the average cost to produce a "solo" video is typically over $1,000. You have to sell between 40 and 50 to be at a break even.

But a thanks and a "tip of the hat" to the late "Dave" for being a pioneer.

There was another, George Darbon, also passed a few years ago, I was approached by someone wanting to sell his collection, but at the asking price.. well way too rich for my blood.

Other than what shows up in the internet occasionally, are any of the stills from Beth or George available for sale?

So that leaves us with The Collector and Stonefox, and each fills a Niche and there seems to be a lot or random stuff that you can find on the net, as we all know. For a few months there was "Lonestar Becky," also known as Becky Murphy. The story is that the fellow who ran the site had told "Becky" the pictures were for is personal use, and when she found you could buy them on the web, all hell broke lose.

Of course many of us have to thank the old "Screw" newspaper's classified ads for helping us find each other long before the internet.

Before there was Beth Tyler there was a fellow from Portland, Maine that helped us exchange photos and stories. Rumor has it he is now a "guest of the state" in Thomaston due to the age of some of his "contacts.", but that may just be rumor. Bob was the person that got Dave & I together so I could provide some input on the technical side. And Bob may still have several hundred feet of Super 8 of my ex... .

There was also Arthur Hamilton out of NY IIRC back in the late 80's. I got my Doc Johnson 8" dildo nozzle from him. Haven't seen it sold anywhere ever since he folded up shop.

Something happened to Arthur Hamilton probably 5 or 6 years ago. I ordered and it took forever to receive my order and he included an apology letter saying there had been a lot going on, and then he just disappeared from the web altogether.

I too, met dave in a d/s meeting in conn. a long time ago. his first wife's name was really karen and they divorced soon after i met him. dave was one of the first and he was the first i bought material from by mail. the old candid press had stories and pictures that were unsurpassed before or since.....dave's second "beth" was a woman whom he met in the philipines. he went there specifically to get a wife to "help with the girls and stuff" his words....anyway they must have found happiness because i believe they were together until his death but i am not sure of that.

i wrote several stories that were printed in enema erotica under the pen name of aquarius. one was "peeper's delight" and the other was "tracy's ordeal" (which was based on a real experience)

hamilton on the other hand did not have the integrity of dave and i lost money ordering stuff from him which never arrived. i did get his book on enema history but weeks after ordering it....he cashed the check two days after i mailed it.

"desiree lemoyne" published enema digest and several other titles and i wrote extensively for her under my pen name, aquarius.....her stuff was very good and i talked with her over the phone and on the internet many times....from letters published in her magazines, i was a very popular author.

anyway, i am glad to find this site and i know it is the best on the internet. sometime i will start a blog on here to detail my lifetime of enema related experiences....i tried to do that on the "voy" sites and got flamed from the beginning....last thing i need!

good luck to you all and i wish you all a happy thanksgiving.

--john

Don't forget Sherry Taylor and Sherema!! Sherry had her own enema clinic, her 4 quart enema bag, and her Sherema Newsletter. I posted scans of the first three issues in the gallery.

I was fortunate to get to know two E-nurses in L.A. The already mentioned Sherry Taylor I met in the early 2000's after her clinic days. She was in North Hollywood and Had regular sessions for about a year. She was into pushing limits!

The other was Camille, she also had a clinic in WLA in the 80's. I became a private client for over 10 years after her clinic was closed. She is very private and hasn't advertised for years.

In the days before the internet and all of the mail-order choices we have now for equipment I saw an add for a company called Platinum, from Van Nuys, CA. It was in an enema magazine, maybe Water & Power, that I picked up at an adult bookstore.

They sent out a monthly newsletter with some stories and a limited selection of enema equipment. I bought several other magazines and some enema equipment from them. They seemed to disappear about the time the internet got popular.

Nice hearing from all you guys about the early dealers and the early enema givers. I now live in Dallas, but grew up and spent the bulk of my life in Los Angeles. I knew Sherry from the late 1960s when she worked for Georgia's and then Dee's Physical Therapy. Both places openly advertised in the now defunct LA Herald Examiner offering not just regular massages but also enemas, colonics and prostate therapy - my first encounter with the old dilatherm. I would add that at $20 for a massage, enema and "local" this was quite a deal. I always wanted to visit with Camille and actually lived near her clinic (Venice Blvd, right?) but never worked out. Anybody know if Valarie is still practicing in the LA area?

Some of my collection includes items from Beth Tyler (CT and later TX), Sherry Taylor and George Hamilton. My understanding is that "George" was actually a woman, avoiding whatever harassment might have come with being a female in the but business in the 1970s and 80s. The latter two are no longer in business, as far as I know. Ooobla-dee, oobla-da!

I knew Dave as Ron, but no matter. I tried Beth Tyler in the 1970s and besides the high prices, found that dealing with them was a hassle. They were always asking for a "I-am-not-a-cop" affidavit.

I had good luck with Arthur Hamilton, but that was after the original owner. I spoke with the new fellow about an order and obtained a several page rudimentary catalog that listed some rather off-beat enema themed movies. I still have and use the folding latex bag I bought from him.

I had great luck with Enematoys. located in Florida, until they went broke. After that I used another Florida-based supplier run by a retired couple, very nice folks, They would call if there was a question about the order or a lead time issue. Her name was Rosemary, but I am blanking on their DBA. They passed away, unfortunately.

Klystra continues to be around, with the son now handling the business.

I had an old Arthur Hamilton catalog, which had some nice equipment. I always got the impression that he catered toward Gay men, but was happy to sell to anyone.

Fascinating history, thanks to all above for the contributions. It was about 1971 that I came across an issue of Candid Press Extra at a news stand, and on one interior page was a picture of two women with enema bags hung above them. The title: "It's their bag." It marked the first time I realized other people were aroused by enemas.

UncleO... you mentioned dealing with Enematoys in FL. I really liked them as well. Did you ever buy their soap? I have not been able to find that stuff since; the unscented stuff had a very particular smell that left some very distinct memories with me. It would be nice to find where I can get some. Cheers!

No, I never purchased the soap offered by enematoys. I pretty much stuck with Dr Bronners since graduating from Kirk's Castile bar soap back in the seventies.

Dave - "Ron Tyler" - also had a company called 5th Ave Color Lab. He did photo finishing for both professionals and amateurs who wanted film developed and printed that might not exactly be "family friendly" viewing. Many people in the adult entertainment industry used him for processing and printing their photos, back when anything off-color could get you arrested when you picked up your prints at the local photo store.

He did excellent work, at a very fair price. Sold the lab about the time he moved to Texas.

Lincster45 asks in his post are there still any Beth Tyler (Tyler Labs) product around,other than what now rarely appears on the internet ?.. Just by chance I'd been perusing another completely unrelated Site promoting various adult videos...Being inquisitive & based on the striking resemblance to certain mutually enjoyable activities, a more thorough search was warranted..As one might do !!.

Sure enough said site revealed a total of 21 original Beth Tyler videos available amongst a total of approximately 870...All 870 being of a similar theme @ www.bilola.com If by chance anyone may be interested, then on that Sites home (front) page all you need to do is scroll down & you will notice grouped together with independent site promotions this link http://www.hotmovies.com/studio/2928/Bilola-com/

There are 3 search functions in operation, so 1) Very top left search box- type in Enema to which 87 pages appear...2) Scroll down a bit till you see the search box identified as "Search Within These Results" followed by Beth Tyler...3 pages totalling 21 films should appear.

Amongst this veritable smorgasbord of 870 E-Video productions represented are :

Allusion Studios...Alpha International...Asian SM...Assylum Studios...Bex Television Studios...The Big-E (series)...Bizarre Video...Bondage Designs...Brazilian Boxxx Studios...Das Klistier...Doma Studios...Fatal Femdom Studios...Gentlemans Pass...Gold Medal...High Tide (Ana Didovic) ... Historic Erotica (Water & Power /Reform School etc. etc)...Hydromadam Productions...Indeep Productions...Jewell Marceau... Kelly Payne Collection.... Klistier... LBO Entertainment... Nettles Corp ( Gynocology In Russia Films)...Oftly Goldwin (die Klinik & Klinik) ... Omega Connection Films...Paradise Productions...Platinum Video...Shadow Lane Studios...Sineplex Video Productions...Slippery Cat Prod...Sly Prod...Twistedmegapass dot com ( Co-Eds)...Tyler Labs (Beth T)

With proper care, enema equipment can be passed down through the generations.

New equipment sells so few units.

There used to be a paper called Enema Times.

I have collected, mostly purchasing on ebay, a collection of over 100 vintage enema magazines---Water & Power, WaterWorks, Sherema, Enemas, Erotic Enemas, etc.---over the last few years. I purchased equipment from Arthur Hamilton until he went out of business, and purchased many times from Klystra, who seems to have also gone out of business. I also ordered from a company back in the 1980's in California called JB Supplies.

In the UK in the mid-eighties there used to be an enema publication called 'Behind Times'. It was published by a company called Charmlord and had I understand several hundred subscribers. It was edited by a gentleman in London and lasted for a couple of years or so. It advertised enema equipment such as nozzles and syringes, provided a forum for UK enema users, allowed them to get and keep in touch and was apparently very popular while it lasted. I believe it went out of business when the publisher was prosecuted and found guilty of 'publishing obscene literature'.

What on earth is obscene about enemas? They have been around for thousands of years and are used by all layers of society and until relatively recently were a standard hospital procedure. Is (or was) the judiciary averse to them possibly because they are (or were) associated with a 'dirty' function? (A pity nobody has told any animals how 'disgusting' they are!).

Regards

Tom Bayley

I ordered some equipment from a company called RoJo Industries or something close to that name- I can't remember exactly. They were based in FL and they had a wide variety of equipment and it was at very good prices. I seemed to remember they were in business all the way up to the early 2000's and then their website disappeared. I did talk to the owner once to get some advice on some equipment and he was very helpful.

I suspect this was a home based business and RoJo were probably husband wife. They probably reached an age where they did not want to keep the business going and decided to shut down. But I really missed their site; they had great enema equipment.

It would be interesting to hear from other members who might have any info on them and what became of them.

ProV1

Seems like the guy who ran RoJo passed away a few years back. I also ordered years ago from Art Hamilton, RFM in CA, JB Supplies (Jason Bleu was cool!), Klystra, etc. We have to take into consideration that some of this was back in the 80's...and that was over 30 yrs. ago...so that might have something to do with some of the dealers not being in business anymore. Maybe they are all just pooped out!

Dan

Wow - what a great history lesson -- all my interaction with Ron-Dave and Beth-Karen - I had no idea these were pen names. Probably makes sense. They were both always combative with me - maybe others - they felt always ripped off that people were copying their films and there was always a scarcity mentality - I never figured they were making that much money.

On the other hand, being a sales and marketing guy - their $175 per video in the 70's was probably why they got ripped so much -- it was high and sometimes the quality was not that good.

I spent a lot of time at Sherema back in the day -- Sherry and her girls were awesome - some unreal events during sessions in the 80's once the girls got to know you, like you, trust you. Grand Dames in the morph - nice place - been there many times - no chance of any of the activities that were enjoyed (outside of the enema play) at Sherema. Those were the days!

I ordered once from ROJO, and had numerous problems with that one order. It could be the reason they didn't last long. Back in the 1980's, JB's Supply and Arthur Hamilton were the only places I knew to order from. I found both of them in gay magazines and the back of magazines such as Water & Power and WaterWorks.

I'm interested as to where the revitalized Stonefox direction will be now they are part of The Collector / Lazer Systems group ... As colour magazine distribution logically morphed into Video /DVD production & internet imaging …. and soon to be streaming

Gyno-X / Cz Clinic are still functioning & have several European locations at their disposal ...J Kink (Everything Butt) have established a pattern in direction that many I'm guessing may not necessarily be enthralled by - still there's some interesting scenarios

Which in some respects leaves the door open for more independent operators, as there has been a steady increase in individual amateur film covering all manner of "interests" with privately owned websites now marketing themselves in meeting demand

Gays and gals, I have started two thread in the Golden Age section regarding Beth Tyler and Sherry Taylor titled Who is Beth Tyler and Who is Sherry Taylor respectively. I am sure that all would appreciate your input regarding the two women and Ron (Dave).

Post found that details where older Tyler catalogue of ‘E’ videos can be procured

I refer to post #16 should anyone be interested

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@Lincster45 Thomaston prison closed in 2002.

@Lincster45 wont see your post as he's not been about for 3 years & has moved residence from country Victoria, Australia to Vietnam