Pelvic massage to cure hysteria

I was reading somewhere that up until as far as the 1980's doctors were using pelvic massages as a way to cure hysteria. Has anyone ever had this happen to them. How was it explained to you by the doctor.

^^^^ I can't believe it was as late as the 1980's. The term was no longer used since 1950 or so. I'm not surprised someone wanted to use it for fun because decades ago, it was used to cure hysteria. It was one of the first uses of the electric massager.

The use of pelvic massage was pretty much gone by the late 1940s.It had been the common treatment for several centuries and while it is no longer an accepted medical practice, your Grandmother and maybe even your Mother probably had the benefit of a good time at the hands of the doctor.The treatments were supposedly not sexual in nature, but can you imagine being massaged to an orgasm by a doctor as not being sexual.The old gal went to get felt up by the doctor and her husband paid him to do it.

I watched a program on the History channel entitled, "The History of Sex", and they talked about women going to the doctor around the turn of the 19th century for the treatment of hysteria. They pointed out that this was why the vibrator was invented. I am sure with the availability of vibrators, that this procedure is not necessary anymore.

Kim, saw the same program myself and wondered just how many women had regular visits to cure their hysteria. I wonder if they told their husbands just how the doctor was treating them ??

Not only the use of massage (masturbation is how we know it) and vibrators for the cure of hysteria.

In the 'dark ages' the uterus would be removed to cure hysteria or madness in women - hence the term hysterectomy!

Hi,

I have read that the vibrator was the third appliance to be electrified in the early 1900's when electricity was being brought into cities.

The first was the iron, I think, I don't remember the number two appliance and the third to be adapted to receive electrical current was the vibrator. Apparently, the Doctor's hands were getting tired!

Has anyone else heard or read this?

Heather

PS: I think that the hair curling iron was fourth on the list.

BigK, now you know why so many women went mad during the "Dark Ages". 😁

Actually, the so called 'Hippocratic pelvic massage', i.e. internal vaginal massage, is still today used in psychosexual context in some alternative care domains. The idea behind this is that psychological traumas affect the musculature of pelvic floor and vagina walls.

Not only massage also a good intercoarse can cure it.

How I wish they were still doing this. Vibrators were medical instruments back then but I think I would prefer the manual massage a lot more.

How many women do you think would make up reasons to go to the DR if this was still employed.

There is a show at NY Lincoln Center on this topic. It is called "In the Next Room" aka "The Vibrator Play." My 15 year old daughter and two of her girlfriends saw it over Christmas break. It had very high reviews. I think it just closed.

BigK you have answered something i have been trying to find out for years. i knew why they did this but was not sure about what was meant by the name ,

hysterectomy

thank you .

glad there is somebody here who has knowledge on his favorite hobby .

xx sherri xx

I'll sign up for some o' that, hysteria or not!

Play On!

LadyDoc

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BigK you have answered something i have been trying to find out for years. i knew why they did this but was not sure about what was meant by the name ,

hysterectomy

thank you .

glad there is somebody here who has knowledge on his favorite hobby .

xx sherri xx

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Thank you Gynoslave for your kind words.

Perhaps I can enlarge on my previous post in this thread by maybe sticking more to the original question, that of pelvic massage to cure hysteria.

Hysteria, as it was probably termed in the dark ages, was very likely nothing more than tension and actual phyical maladies caused by unsatisfying sexual experiences - coitus not resulting in orgasm for the ladies - due maybe to what surely were unenlightened attitudes on the part of menfolk. "Wham bam, thank you Ma'am" - yes, it often survives to this day!

In intercourse a woman's abdominal organs, particularly the genitals, are suffused with blood and affected by hormones and secretions released by stimulation. The counterpart to this in men is engorgement of the penis to erection, the release of lubricating fluid (precum) and the charging of the seminal vesicles etc with semen.

Mother Nature was not too bothered about orgasms, save for the man's and her preparations described above were to facilitate the best conditions in the female genitals for the reception of sperm and aiding them on a journey through the uterus and into the fallopian tubes where the female's egg was waiting.

What I call incomplete intercourse - intercourse without orgasm for the lady (sometimes a product of coitus interruptus - withdrawal) results in stagnation of the blood in the abdomen, hormones and secretions that go nowhere and a whole lot of rightful tension, anger and feelings of worthlessness - being a cum receptacle or a breeding machine.

Is it any wonder that such women go a little 'mad', or 'hysterical'. I bet most men would too, if they were allowed to go so far and then get pushed out!

Quite sensibly the medical profession of the time noticed (maybe it was a naughty playdoc who saw it first)that sexual relief to orgasm lowered the tensions. Now, rather than turn themselves all into playdocs, they adopted appropriate methods and invented new instruments, vibrators, and prescribed wonderful new treatments, probably charging the earth for what should have been a straight forward chat with wayward husbands to buck their ideas up and look after the lady's needs.

The availability these days of modern and ever more complex sex toys should have eliminated this malady. Unfortunately its not so. It's said that 'nice' ladies don't go into such adult stores and governments, including the UK, make the shops hide behind blacked out windows to the extent that they're regarded as 'seedy'

So it's off to see the doctor - 'Ah, its depression - take these happy pills - they're a little habit forming so you may have to take them for a lifetime'. Or, 'I'll make you a referral to see a shrink'. That's right, doctors have slipped back into the pre pelvic massage era, not all husbands know their place in the marriage bed and a lot of patients want the quick fix that a pill will (?) give!

BigK knows his stuff.

he is worth listening too .

i love what you just wrote and ill take note . thanks bigK .

I have practiced 'pelvic massage' for years on both girlfriends and female 'patients'. I have found only one who didn't enjoy it all that much (she was pre-orgasmic). For the 'unenlightened', pelvic massage is a broad-spectrum term that encompasses a variety of physical stimuli and usually results in one or more orgasms. Today, we usually call it masturbation! 😃 Enjoy!!

Hysterectomy: from the greek hystera - womb - and ektomia - cutting out.

Hysteria was also known as 'wayward womb' in the belief that the womb had 'come loose' and was traveling about the body - hence the dark age belief that removal would restore sanity.

I thought this had stopped by the fifties. It is a thought though isnt, the very femine ladies from the fifites with their full skirts going to the doctors office for a 'massage' then resptically carrying on with the rest of their day..............

The first time I heard about it was in the movie, "The Road to Wellville". There were all kinds of wonderful ideas in that movie.

Interesting posts on this topic would like to know how to give this kind of massage. Some really good info going to have to explore it a bit deeper . It has got me thinking. COULD a guy get this ?

Have any of you seen the movie called Hysteria? Was a pretty funny movie based around so many women having this condition and the need for a better treatment that wouldn't make the Doctors hands so sore, LOL. Man, watching the docs doing their 'manipulation treatments' was quite the turn on! Of course now we have our Hitachis so we gotta give props to those original vibrator creators! haha

I can't see anything like that being done now, less the patient calls rape or inappropriate conduct. Poor docs, if only they could find the 'right' patients! You wouldn't hear a peep out of me! Well, maybe the occasional moan or two. ;-)

Our favourite treament :-) Combined with full surgical attire, black beauty for the lady ... you can imagine the rest. Probably one of the best ways into this medfet kink

icosm

Hmmm.......Let me ponder this for a moment and the time of when all this started and ended. My Grandmother will be 97yrs old in November this year. Everyone in our family wonder how she and my Grandfather even had 4 children, including my Mom. I can't see my Grandmother doing this or my Grandfather endorsing it if he had knowledge of it. My grandmother would have had access to it as one of her very best girlfriends was an ob/gyn. Funny, the same ob/gyn who delivered me, my Mom and all her siblings.

Perhaps their intimate relations would have been a great deal better if my Grandmother had received hysteria treatment. I don't think we will ever know for sure why or what happened or did not happen between them. She has moderate dementia and we don't always know what to expect when she starts telling stories, gets fixated on something or riled up. My Grandfather doted on her, spoiled her, treated her like a queen. He never strayed from his wedding vows, though it was well known he wished for a great deal more affection from her. A mystery we will never know the answers to.

It leaves me thinking about my ancestors and if any of them did or did not receive hysteria treatment. This is not something I would think very likely to be found in any family ancestor research unless it was recorded in personal journals. Happy hunting and family research to everyone here wondering if their family ancestors were kinky!

Andie ...

You got me wondering the same about my grandparents and honestly I can't see it ever having happened, not back in the 1920's/30's and knowing their utter aversion to so many things having to do with doctors and medicine ... and knowing their (relative) poverty after my grandfather went partially blind and lost his job. I doubt there would have been much money left over for doctors visits and certainly not for anything having to do with problems of a personal (code for sexual of course ... ha ha) nature.

Maybe their kinks, of which I bet they weren't even aware, or wouldn't have recognized if it bit them in the behind, were worked out through administering clysters and suppositories for all and any ailments. And they probably would have thought of them as home remedies, cheaper alternatives than a doctors consult. In any case, I know me and my cousins got our share of clysters and suppositories whenever the occasion presented itself ... and am not sorry about it at all ...

Of course you never know about your ancestors. You have their mental image in your mind as old folks. I know when I saw photos of my young, unmarried grandmother, it was difficult connecting the attractive lady with bobbed hair as my old familiar wrinkled grandmother ...

Dr. Kelloge ran a clinic for pelvic massage.

I found this an interesting part of history as well. Apparently a cure for hysteria was for many women, their first real orgasms 😃

I had never heard of this until the movie "Road to Wellville". Ahhh, the good old days...!!!

When I was a child, my mother and her friends often sat around gossiping. Even at six or seven, my ears would perk up and I would hang on every word when the subject of doctors and exams would come up. I was fascinated but I always wondered when one of them would make comments like, "a woman always falls in love with her gynecologist." Years later when I learned about the history of vibrators and the intimacy involved in being "treated", I got the answer. Virtually all the women in the neighborhood were being treated for hysteria - my mother included. And the pelvic massage was the reason why "a woman always falls in love with her gynecologist."