Forced Medical Exam

No force, just consequences.

Consequences have the force of consequences behind them. It isn't always necessary to apply actual physical force to get the same results one would when threatening with real-world consequences, especially with consequences like loss of employment and income.

Odd customs. Don't you guys in the US sign a labor/employment contract stipulating conditions and pay etc when employed hourly? That is certainly the case here. When you are employed, no matter how part-time, everyone signs a labor contract and everyone has health insurance. Even when you are hired as fictionally self-employed, there is always a labor contract involved and health insurance. Otherwise how does one resolve potential disagreements down the line? With no contract, employees are at the whims and whams of their employers.

In the US, you generally have to be full time to get insurance benefits.

YES, part time employees are often hired "at will" and at the whim of the employer and employee. Some may have a contract, others may not.

It reminds me of the examinations i had to undergo when i was a student. Seems equally long and unpleasant

part time employees are often hired "at will" and at the whim of the employer and employee

That also applies to full-time employees. I believe all states recognize the concept of at-will employment, but many states interpret what that means in different ways, or place restrictions on what an employer/employee can/can't do.

Depends what you consider forced medical, but i had many medicals that were required for school, university, employment. So not forced as such, but unavoidable unless you do not want to study or work... i was always anxious, knowing there would be no choice of the doctor and what would be done. I had mainly female doctors for these exams, just wonder why they seem to prefer these jobs compared to men. Did you have mostly female doctors as well for compulsory/forced medicals?

If you don't think it is plausible that a physical would take 3 whole days,

When i started working for a pharmaceutical company in the 80's, the annual physical exams were always 2-day. Day 1 was with the nurse for maybe an hour or so, submitting blood & urine for analysis, & checking vision, hearing, glaucoma, EKG, lung capacity height & weight, etc. All while totally clothed, except for the EKG.

Day 2 was with the plant's physician, for 20 mins or so. Originally underwear only, no gown, Open up, stick out your tongue & say "Ah", Stethoscope on chest & back, reflexes, palpating, hernia & testicle check. Review of blood & urine results.

The days used to be about a week apart, approximating how long it took to results back, & juggle the other 400-500 employees on site with their annual physicals. With the emergence of Quest Diagnostics essentially, the 2 days eventually became consecutive.

This really happened. As a kid who was a ward of the court and in a institutional home, you feel like you have no support and no way out of anything- just felt like a total victim. This was where I was for a few yrs as a teen til 18. A few times nursing students would come in to practice things such as: bandaging, teaching someone to walk on crutches, slings, making a bed with someone in it, washing someones hair with this tray thing in the bed, and bed baths, weight, height , pulse on wrist and with stethoscope, of course temperature taking (oral and rectal). I didn't mind all this as the being touched, and given attention felt actually really nice. All except for having to be in jockey shorts and or just a exam gown, and the worst was rectal temperature time. (See my post under rectal temperatures area). Well now I was 17 and a half and planning to leave when I turned 18 and had a job lined up and a place ( a room ) to move into. I wasn't going to stay there any longer than I had to. So on this occassion an instructor came with a few student nurses. I was to strip to jockeys and put on exam gown. Instructor came in, a lady in her 50's with a male student nurse who was to demonstrate the usual stuff and that all was ok but not as fun as the female who worked on me the last time a year earlier which I thought was real erotic, her being about 8 yrs older than me. After taking forever to get thru the usual stuff and the male student only taking my oral temperature I was feeling pretty relieved. Next thing I know is I am being told to go another area and lay on a bed behind some folding panels because the student would be practicing some other things. Now I was scared and felt butterflies and my heart beating in my throat. The male student was in his late 30's and was a fairly effeminate guy. The instructor said, "Johnny, your student David is going to prepare you to have an enema and he will explain it all to you while I go an help with another student." I was pretty pissed off now but knew I had to go thru with it, there was no getting out of anything. I told the nurse very sternly that MY name is John not Johnny and reminded her that I told her about that last year with the other student. She says " OK, John, then", then says to David the student, " be sure to get a rectal temperature too, that is a must", "John is very used to that". Student Dave just stood there giving me that smug satisfied, princely grin as if to say ' I got you now and you have to submit'. I was an athletic very fit guy with body plenty of dark body hair and all the younger boys at the place looked up to me. Now I have nothing against gay men at all and as it turns out, My play drs have been both gay men too but back then when you are 17, its a different thing. He had me of course lay on my stomach and pull down my jockeys to mid thigh, spread open my cheeks and take a look. Then shook down the thermometer, as I lay on my stomach and looking to the side he stood in front of me and I could see him swirling that thermometer around in the lube he had on a paper towel. He opened my butt way up and pulled my cheeks from side to side and up and down and I got pissed and said " hey did you lose something in there'? I was on my stomach but propped up on my elbows preparing for the jolt the cold glass rod usually gave me as itwas inserted and my body reacted by stiffening up and I lurched forward pushing my mid section into the bed and raising my head up, then settled down. He held the javelin like thermometer in place with his hand across my buns at first and then he wouldn't leave it in any longer than needed, and pulled it back almost all the way out, cuz he said he was going to check to see if it was ready, I could still feel the tip swirling around just at my anal opening then slid it back in. After a few 'checks' like this, finally pulled it out . The instructor came in and he proceeded to get the enema going, a IV pole with clear plastic bag hanging down and long as hell thick tube . He explained to me that the enema would let warm water flow into my butt and fill me up slowly and that he would place the tube into my rectum about only about 5 or 6 inches and that I must keep the position laying on my left side and try to stop moving around. He applied a lot of lube to my hole with his finger swirling around and around and then with his finger inside me too, to which I said " Whoah, take it easy"!The instructor watched, then left while Dave finished it up. Water went in but I couldn't hold much of it and he made me sit on a bed pan to empty it out. I was never more embarrassed in my life. He said I had to turn back over because we weren't finished yet and that I would be taking it a few more times til all the water in the bad went in. I felt buns being separated again and the greasy tube sliding up and down across my butt hole then piercing in and traveling a long way and I protested saying "hey, she said only about 5 inches "! He said there , there now Johnny, don't worry and let me know when you feel full and can't hold it any more, but try to hold it as long as you can. I was feeling pretty bold and pissed off and I said, " I can tell you've had a lot of experience with this kind of thing". He began reaching around in front and said he was going to massage my belly to make the cramping go away and help the water go in. It did feel better, and as the back of his hand brushed my super hard penis, I wished he would have jacked me off. Of course, whenever any one did anything to my butt, like take my temperature I got a big hard on and it really puzzled me. Again , the feeling of him touching me was sort of nice in a way but I was freaked out because here I was having a gay man touching me and looking me all over etc, The enema got over with and I had taken all the water in the bag after 5 insertions. I hated having him looking at the water and poop in the bed pan and it smelled bad too. When it was over he did a good job cleaning and bathing my back side and butt . I was able to get dressed and go back. David reached out to shake my hand and thank me saying he knew it was hard for me and said " are we still friends"? I just wanted to go out and play ball and try and forget it all. Getting back to my room I was so pissed I put my fist in a wall and sat my bed and cried tor a minute. I felt raped and super humiliated beyond imagination. But this was what got me erotically involved with enemas and rectal everything. 8 years later I went and had an enema session with a real enema expert I met thru an ad who was also an older gay man. Now I see another older man semi regularly who is an enema expert and gives a great prostate massage and checks me inside with a metal scope. I still get butterflies every time and shake when he tells me to strip to my jockeys. I go for my 'exam's and 'treatments' and find it incredibly embarrassing but very erotic. I have an incredibly good play dr. who takes my temperature over and over again with thermometers and vaseline that he keeps in the fridge. I would like to be watched by others while dr does his thing to me. Males , females equally.

Not a forced medical exam, but compulsory ones like school medical, pre employment and ones during employment where you had no choice but to be examined. With most of these I had some prior warning, but the ones during employment as an apprentice, I was just called out of the workplace and to go to the on site company medical department where it was another 'strip to underpants and sock's exam without the opportunity to shower and have decent underpants on. As an apprentice we had to have a medical every year until we were 18.

Oh I've had a number of forced examinations. Like if you go in for psych eval.They are going to do blood work and possibly more. If you have any problems they're going to do it with you like it or not

They'll give you a shot to put you out & if you wont cooperate and then they'll just take it.

While you're in the psych hospital you're going to get a medical evaluation and that's forced. As far as that goes I got pushed into ECT, they can do it.

I have never had a forced medical exam, but I did have many required exams for school and work.

To “gphilg”

You seem to be suprised that most of the doctors for what we can call “ forced medical examination ” because they are compuslsory at school, university or for entrance to a job or annually at jobs are mainly women but it is perfectly undestandableThese doctors are paid to do a job without much responsability towards patients and to do the job at a schedule time, it begans in the morning and ends at the end of afternoon, they are never required to work later on nights and att week ends, it was and still it is like an employee job as regards the hours of working, it is much better to have a family and time at home to care about the house and children

It can be a little boring because they have to examin a lot of persons in a few time and according to the same procedure ( there is a medical form to fill and the exams are perfomed according to standards and all these doctors must follow the instructions to respect the procedure)

They have a few decisions to take but a few ones like for instance the state of undress and when ! or if the examination is performed alone or in a group if thre is nothing mentioned by authoritiesThese jobs are interesting more women than men because they are less paid than private jobs and also because they can be boring after a certain time but women like them generally

May be also even It is not certain at all because some women like to have power on persons who must be examined at a schedule time and must obey to all instructions as regards undressing and so onSometimes it can be because women doctors liked to examin boys and young men in good heath and handsome

On a forum about compulsory physicals for military service in Germany before it was abolished in the beginning of the 2000's years, some draftees were complaing because almost all the doctors were women assisted by a young female nurse or medical secretary and they were examined alone in an exam room but forced to strip completely and examined naked by the doctor in plain view of the other woman, some said that they fely humliated and that their dignity was not rrspected since they had a genitals inspection with retractio of the foreskin and inspection of pee hole and scrotum and palpation of testicles, a check of hernia and the worst a visual inspection of the anus area while bending over and spreading their buttocks. The doctors were hired the army to do that job and a few male doctors asked to do twhile women doctors graduating from medical school or university were interested.

It was for the reasons I give above in my message. And there was a secretary or nurse who was here just to watch the examination since all draftees said in their relation that she did not anything else than watch but it was also llogical, the woman doctor might work for all a day so she certainly liked to talk to an other woman a few times between the examination of two draftees to have a recess time, it was understandable, no matter if the draftees were more embarrassed, anyway they might comply to orders and they might be naked !.

It was and is still the same In Russia.

May be it was more embarrassing in Germany for young men aged of 18 or a few months less sometimes 17 (if they reached 18 age in the year ) but what could the authorities do to avoid it.

In France it was not the same at my time for military service, all examinations were performed in an only male environment, but it was the same at school, university and for job entrance or annual compulsory exams at jobs, they were always performed by women doctors.

To the question “ why women preferred these jobs compared to men ” I think that the answer is better why men don't want to do these jobs and the reason is that thsse jobs are too less paid !

Never had anything forced medically

Never had a forced exam. Have been held down when very young for shots but not sure if that counts

Yes, not pinned down but I feel that refusing to have a medical will cost you your job is a forced medical, and I have been a victim.

Like a few have already noted here, I had a military entrance medical and I found it humiliating. It was standard for the era, a group of male teens who undressed and showered together. Next we had to walk naked down a corridor into an hall and gather in a group awaiting to be seen by the attending medical staff. In itself the medical was the same as I had had before, heart lungs, etc except for two things. The first was it was not being in private but in a group and secondary there were female nurses either conducting some of the exams or just being there doing other things. They may have been medical professionals, but most were nearly as young as us and this was a time that for most people the wedding night was the first time your wife would see you naked so this was an all new experience for all of us and it showed.

The last part of the exam was to stand in a line for the hernia check. Why it was done in a line I can only image - power. The doctor did the normal exam, and pulled back the foreskin. Some of the doctors was women and the action had an immediate effect on some and they got erections.