Vulva/Vaginal pumping - Pussy pumps

BigK-

As Susie points out, prolapses may occur due to circumstances other than pussy pumping. I do not believe that pussy pumping can directly cause a prolapse unless one uses way too much pressure. Pussy pumping is perfectly safe when the vacuum pressure is kept at a low level and when no other conditions are present that could become a problem as a result of this activity. Another precaution to keep in mind here is that the idea is to pump the vulva, not the vagina. The labia are supposed to become swollen, but anyone who pumps in a way that pulls the vagina outward is doing something wrong, perhaps such as pumping with the labia minora separated from each other rather than in a sealed position.

It's worth pointing out that many women's labia do not completely cover the vaginal opening and there is somewhat of a gap. Pussy pumping may be unsuitable for such women if this gap allows pressure to act on the vaginal walls and pull them outward. Maybe this is when pumping could cause a prolapse. I don't know. I am only speculating here, and I hope that someone reading this can confirm or deny it. However, and this is also speculation, pussy pumping with a dildo inserted could probably seal the vagina from being pumped and keep the pressure outside, on the vulva.

Yikes what kind of negative pressure are you talking about here? Aren't you worried that she might turn inside out?

@HC. I read Susie's post as being confirmation of what I said, that pussy pumping could cause a prolapse. Maybe I was wrong and she simply meant that prolapses could occur due to other causes, which of course is perfectly true.

But you go on to say that prolapse can occur through pussy pumping but won't occur if the negative pressure is kept low - or there are no other conditions are present. Pray tell me what 'low' means in respect of negative pressure (in "wg perhaps) - and how are pumpers supposed to know if they have those (unspecified) 'conditions'?

You go on to say that it is the vulva which is pumped and not the vagina and that the vagina would be sealed against negative pressure. Again, pray tell me how this sealing occurs? You admit that there is a 'gap' in many cases (I would say in ALL cases) and that pussy pumping may be unsuitable for such women. Should women visit a gynaecologist for a report on this? I know what advice they would receive!

How does one limit the pulling power of the pump to only act on the vulva, and not draw down the cervix and uterus? It stands to reason that it cannot be limited to the vulva - even assuming a perfect 'seal' of the vagina. The whole of the pelvic region would be subjected to pulling, to a greater or lesser degree depending on distance from the pump. The pelvic/genital musculature would assure this.

Sadly, many women are subject to prolapse of the cervix, and even the whole uterus, simply by frequent pregnancy or childbirth. Some too by a defect in the recto vaginal septum (the fascia of Otto) which may well be one of those 'unspecified' conditions. Many are the photographs and videos available on the internet allegedly (yes they are porn) caused by pussy pumping. Google 'pussy pumping prolapse video'.

I'm not a professional in medicine, but applying common sense it would seem that the doubtful and temporary 'benefits' of pussy (or anal) pumping are not even worth a minor risk, let alone the possibility of something more damaging.

You could have a small prolapse. You would never prolapse all the way to the cervix, but you could have a minor prolapse that would in all likelihood, go back by itself.

What's the point of pussy pumping anyway? To make her look more hung? Just my opinion but the concept seems ridiculous. And remember that blowing air into the vagina has been associated with death from air embolism.

BigK,

Your concerns are noted. I forgot to mention earlier that I wonder about how the risks associated with pussy pumping depend on the equipment used. You see a lot of individuals using these big long tubes that just keep pulling the female genitalia farther and farther into the tube. Of course that looks like a terrible idea to me, and in that case I agree with everything you say. But what about the pussy pumping involving the cups that look sort of like oxygen masks? These are designed specifically for this purpose. The labia swell until they fill the cup, which prevents the extreme outward pulling/ prolapsing that occurs in the long tubes.

Just to answer the question about how to gauge the pumping pressure, any decent pump has a gauge on it. One site that sells the equipment advises against pumping beyond a pressure level of 6 on their gauge. I do not know what units their gauges happen to measure. Source: http://www.lapdist.com/hints.html

Also, liquidsky-

Vacuum pumping does not blow air, it sucks the air out of the vacuum enclosure. This is how the engorgement occurs, which enhances a woman's arousal if done right. You do know that people experience sexual arousal when their genitals become engorged. By the way, I guess that is the point of everything that is discussed on this site, it enhances the arousal of those who participate in it.

HC I didn't think that pussy pumping was anything other than negative pressure. I was just concerned that members would try insufflating air into the vagina causing untoward results.

After mulling over this for a while, I've decided to share what I've witnessed and experienced (as a guy), and what I've heard from another medical professional.

I had never heard of any kind of vacuum pumping until I had to start taking a hypertension med which introduced me to the terror of ED.

While still confounded by that new development in my life, around the same time I'd read that the FDA had approved a clitoral suction device, available by Rx only, for women with "orgasmic dysfunction"...

http://eros-therapy.com/

My curiosity now piqued, I started doing some research online and discovered that female genital vacuum pumping seemed to be more of a European thing than it is in the US.

Long story, but I later wound up actually having a conversation with an RN who runs a women's pelvic floor heath/GYN practice with her MD husband. She told me she'd never heard of pussy pumping until she and her husband were traveling in Europe and ran across it as an OTC home remedy available from pharmacies for women with orgasmic dysfunction, vaginal dryness, or atrophied vaginas who wanted to resume intercourse. In her opinion, what happened was the general public start using it as a sex toy, then the porn industry took it to extremes, which is what you usually see on websites.

In her opinion, and she confessed being a personal advocate, was that it was actually beneficial to female genitalia to encourage engorgement and circulation, but that massive swelling seen in porn was probably not a good idea and might lead to labial stretching, prolapse, etc. Since the sensations could range from "pleasant" to "uncomfortable" to "painful", her recommendation was to always keep it just under "uncomfortable" and it was best to let the woman do it herself so she could best determine the sensation. Her preferred regimen was 30 secs "just under uncomfortable" followed by 5 secs release, cycling over and over again up to 20 mins total. Swelling would be hardly visible but sensitivity would be markedly enhanced.

In my personal experience, I've pumped a gf using the above regimen and what happened follows. She was initially skeptical but mildly interested and after about 20 minutes, started feeing a bit impatient and bored so we stopped. There was hardly any visible effect and since I had a good erection at the time, I entered her body. I kid you not, her eyes rolled back in her head and she said "What was I thinking?! You can do that to me anytime you want!" We then had an mindblowing fuck and both came in just a few minutes. Her vagina felt very different to me (in a nice way) and obviously she noticed something different herself.

In reading various European sex forums, such as joyclub.de as well as others, swelling only occurs with practice, where the tissues are basically "trained" to become engorged and congested, and it usually takes between 40 to 60 minutes of cycled pumping. (Static pumping for long intervals is a terrible idea since blood will pool and tissue damage will occur.) A tube like a penis pumping cylinder is also a bad idea because it focuses the suction on too small an area and is too deep. A cup designed for pussy pumping is preferable because it distributes the vacuum over a much wider area and is not essentially "bottomless". Long session pumping will eventually start to fill the cup and repeatedly filling it over time will cause the swelling to become more and more permanent. The Euro forums also universally praise a cup from the German company Froehle, which is also the top selling pussy pumping device on both Amazon.uk and Amazon.de.

My dom/master uses one on me and I love it. Not only is it erotic, the sensation is beyond words. I don't think there are any negative aspects to this experience.

I find the images of porn videos a little too enlarged but this thread has showed me that it doesn't need to be that extreme to get pleasure!

Exactly! If you'd never heard of a 'dildo' and looked it up on porn sites to see what it was, you'd probably be freaked out when you saw how enormous they often were and you'd be disinterested. It doesn't have to be taken to extremes to be fun.

Http://newart.com/ has a great section on female pumping and pumping supplies. Well worth joining the forum for hints, tips and advice!

My advice when using a vacuum pump is to get one with a gauge. The good ones have a mark at the maximum safe vacuum pressure and help you to not over pump and do damage. After pumping for a bit release and then let the blood flow for a few minutes before pumping again. Pumping with a little less pressure than maximum will help to reduce the possibility of breaking a blood vessel and doing damage and still allow you to pump her clit or pussy for pleasure. More pressure is not necessarily better. Be safe!

I have always been very interested in vacuum pumping. Sexuality is not taboo for me at all no matter what new adventure it maybe. I only worry about retraction. If that works out well I'm all for it.

I have always been very interested in vacuum pumping. Sexuality is not taboo for me at all no matter what new adventure it maybe. I only worry about retraction. If that works out well I'm all for it.

RETRACTION???

What is that?

Susie, I think she means that she hopes the tissue congestion goes back down.

2B, it does, as long as you're not pushing it to the limit all the time. There's a difference between swelling and congesting the existing tissues and deliberately and repetitively stretching them. Do not use a tube or try to fill an oversized cup unless you're trying to win a monster pussy lips porn contest. Discomfort is usually the clue. Pulsating or cycling the vacuum cycles yields the best results with less risk of injury.

^^^ I'm not so sure about newart anymore - seems like mostly trolls anymore. There are more helpful discussions on European sex forums, especially ones in German or French - joyclub.de comes to mind.

By far, MOST of the "tissue enlargement or engorgement" of the labia is actually edema caused by the vacuum.

That will always go down to normal.

I love how the pussy gets swollen. Perfect for licking and sucking... and the visual adds to the experience!

I have seen videos of women after pussy pumping and in one of them, she got so swollen, which is in fact nothing more than edema, her pre-pumped pussy which I thought was good looking had absolutely ZERO appeal to me.

I do not want to suck on or do anything else with a pussy that looks like a man's balls---and yes, the swollen labia and scrotum are EXACTLY THE SAME tissues.

One of zitys very oldest of threads that deserves a pump up . . .correction . . .bump along 🦘