Physical Exam at Medical School

I am volunteer who spends time at our local medical school so that future nurses and doctors can learn on a real body. Last month I participated in a session where the students learn about the abdomen, feeling and sizing the liver, paancreas, gall bladder, etc. The teaching doctor was an attractive women in her late thirties and she supervised a group of about 6 students (four girls, 2 guys) who were not to sure about "feeling" this male body. After the class was over, and the students dismissed the doctor asked if I had any feedback on the session and felt confortable. I told her that "no" everything was fine, I was confortable and not nerevous, but two of the girls were really nervous to the point their hands were almost shaking. She told me she also noted their uneasyness. Given my cool composure, the doctor asked if I would be willing to volunteer for her nursing class and have several of the students learn how to exam the male genitourinary organs. Now that question did make me pause. "I am certain you have had such examinations, are familiar with the exerience, and would really help me out with my class" she added. While I was attempting to make up my mind, she added "Lets just take down your shorts and I will show you what I will be demonstrating to the students. Then the girls will have the oportunity to exam you". With that she proceed to conduct a complete exam of my private parts. "And don't worry if you get an erection during the session, I have explained to the students that is a most normal reaction for men. But while it is just the two of us today, bend over and I want to spend a little more time on your prostate and help relax you". Let us just say I am looking forward to next week and the nursing class demonstration. :😃

Where do I sign up?

That would be so fun to be a demonstration!

Good idea, I've heard of volunteers having different med students give them gyno exams all day.

I have read that there are programs at teaching hospitals call

Standardized Patient, where an individual gets paid for student doctors to examine them.

I would love to sign up for something like that. I have a friend who had done this but he is studying to be a doctor himself. He told me the only volunteers were medical students. I often wonder how many schools only use medical students.

You definately have to tell us how that works out

Hard to believe that its that easy. Name a school that does this?

With what you described the teaching doctor doing, I might have an erection before the exam even started. The idea of that many people watching and touching my genitals would just about guarantee that I would be erect. There is no way that I could remain calm with that much stimulation.

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I have read that there are programs at teaching hospitals call

Standardized Patient, where an individual gets paid for student doctors to examine them.

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I end up getting to pay them when it is part of an actual examination. I see enough different doctors that recently I have been getting some of the exams done by students. I am getting more used to it, but it was a bit different the first time I was given a thorough exam by a woman in her early 20's and half my age.

Where I went to school, the models in our physical evaluation classes were paid, not volunteers.

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Where I went to school, the models in our physical evaluation classes were paid, not volunteers.

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That is how it is always done from what I have read. They want someone with a bit of acting ability too so they can be presented with a particular complaint and make it believable for the student. Needs to be as much like the real thing as possible. I would imagine that they also want someone in generally good health so real problems aren't likely to show up in the exams.

I have never participated in the classroom, but I have had full exams by female medical students in their 3rd or 4th year and some very young nurses who are learning from an older nurse. I think that some of the youngest nurses were still in school and were getting some of their required hours in where they care for actual patients.

I also sometimes get initial exams by interns who haven't been doing patient care very long. I sometimes help them out if they hesitate. I will point out known problems to them so they won't miss some of the less obvious things. They seem to appreciate the fact that their hesitancy doesn't bother me at all. I just tell that they they could be one of the specialists that I will be seeing in the future, so I am more than happy to help them learn.

This sounds like an incredible opportunity

Oh my god, that is so hot! 😁 imagine being paid to fufil your fantasies! & all for the good cause of educating students! Sign me up, lol

Yeah, I think a lot of the time these standardized patients are more than just people looking to make an extra buck. They are experienced in providing feedback to the students regarding the techniques demonstrated.

Wow that is real amazing experience

The job is called Standardized Patient. I have actor friends who've done this and said I should try it for some easy extra money. Little do they know how much I'd LOVE it! 😃

Completely bogus story, most physicians in training have scores of opportunities to practise on patients in university-affiliated hospitals/clinics

Well... I don't know if every post here describes actual experiences, but I know that there are "standardized patients" because one of my family members earns quite a bit of money thst way every year. My family member is a small-time actor and works for three different medical schools. They put my family member up in a hotel, provide bus transportation to the facility, pay travel expenses and pay about $25 per hour. My family member says that the bus always has male and female "patients" going to and from their hotel accomadations.

To answer a question asked, yes Standardized Patients and Gynecological Teaching Assistants are real, and they get paid. I have included a couple of web sites that discuss the programs:

http://ome.stanford.edu/spp.html

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/simulation/sp_program/employment.html

http://www.aspeducators.org/sp_info.htm

I don't know if they could use me at the teaching hospital that I go to. I have quite a few real medical issues, so it might be hard to pretend to have a problem when there are plenty of real problems that they would find. I have plenty of for real surgical scars and have to be seen by specialists in multiple fields.

Maybe they could do the same type of exams that I get anyway and see how well their findings match the actual doctors that I see. In many instances, the doctors that I see are also part of the teaching staff and sometimes have a med student or intern following along with them.

Sounds like you are a lucky guy. Have fun! 😄

There are a couple different kinds of standardized patients and not all schools use them all.

Most schools do end of year exams that need SPs to act out cases. These SPs are more like actors and train for only about 2 hours for each case they do. The exam is normally only limited to a cardiac exam or abdominal exam but never anything under the undies. After the interview and exam (if needed) the student steps out and completes a form and then comes back so that the SP can critique the interview (always in a positive manner).

Then there are PE (physical exam) SPs - these ones have the entire physical exam done on them which takes about an hour and afterwards they work with the student to show them what they did right and wrong.

And then there are GU/GYN SPs who teach the male genitourinary exam and the female Gyn exam. I don't know much about exactly how these go...

-John

Where do i sign up

lol

Oooh dude i would love an examination like that and then return weekly before another class and another

I would love to become a standardized patient! how and where do I find outabout this profession?

SP stories

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http://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=29381.msg380833#msg380833

http://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=34909.msg377857#msg377857

I have always wanted to be one of these patients.

Sign me up!