48fr Colon tube too stiff

Last month I decided to try out a colon tube. I figured a larger one would be safer, as less likely to puncture me. So, I decided to order a 48fr size tube. It was 48" long. I tried my best, but could only get it about 1/2 way in (2 feet I think). It was pretty stiff. And painfull. I even used tons of lube. I had already done a mild soap enema to expand and clean.

I am new at this. I am thinking smaller may be better. Something more flexible...

I had Olive Oil in the bag, so let it out as I went thinking it would lube me up to help. But just could not get around the corners.

Any advise is appreciated.

I am thinking of getting a 32fr. Thx.

When I'm tubing a buddy, I usually start off with a 32 or 36fr.

colon tube. That size is flexible enough to go around bends

easier, and yet stiff enough to not fold back on itself if done

slowly and carefully. While a colon tube can be used for solo

sessions, they are much easier if someone who knows what he's

doing is putting it in you so you can relax and not be in a

contorted position trying to insert into yourself.

You might also soak your larger tube in hot water to soften it

a bit before using it.

Enjoy.

Dan

Treetop: I have a 48Fr. colon tube with the same problem. I just stopped using it. I've read that you can put these in boiling water and cook them for some time and it will soften them for easier use. Another suggestion was to keep them stored in petroleum based oil, until the oil would break them down enough until they got soft. Then you had to scrub them inside & out to remove the oil and stop the destruction of the rubber.

Ask S. Susie about this, as she has said she likes big, thick colon tubes. I'm sure she has come up with a way to make them softer.

Jim

It isn't the stiffness of the present day 48Fr tube. It is soft compared to the older ones. Softening them too much will only make them fold and kink over on themselves.

The difficulty lies in the insertion technique. They take practice to insert, especially very deeply and you should not expect to get it in until you thoroughly know your internal anatomy which in all likelihood is NOT the same as the classic textbook diagram of the colon. Everybody has variations in the shape of their colons. You need to feel the position of the tube inside your abdominal wall and massage the end of the tube around the curves of the colon. Lastly, you may not get it in all the way no matter how long you try, so don't force it.

A 48fr is a nice size tube but depending on who made it some are pretty stifff,,,and since your getting about half (2ft.) in, its pretty sure you have traversed the sigmoid and are stuck at the bottom of the decending colon....i used to have one and that was often a challenge for me...you need to manipulate the sigmoid down toward the pelvis and see if you can guide the tip around the turn, try slowly rotating the tube and dont force it since that will likely close the kink rather than produce progress...use caution,, while its true the higher the tube goes the better the clean out,, its certainly not worth damaging anything...

Depending on the rubber used, mineral oil may damage the tube, even vegetable oil will first soften , then harden and finally crack the tube,,

48F is indeed a HUGE challenge (which is part of what makes it fun). I have gotten one all the way in a few times (4 feet), but generally concluded its not worth the effort - and I think it's a bit dangerous.

I have a collection of about 20 colon tubes in a full range of sizes, and have experimented extensively. My experience is that a much smaller (e.g. 22F) closed end colon tube is much more likely to go all the way in without kinking or folding back on itself, and that's what I now mostly use for "high enemas".

Great information everybody. Thank you for your posts.

Here is where I got my 48fr tube http://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/LatexFree-Silicone-Colon-Tubes-For-Home-Enema-Kits-p/0HColonTubes.htm

I think I will just get a smaller tube, maybe a 32fr by 60in.

It's got to go easier than the other.

If your colon tube is the red rubber type I suggess boiling the tube to soften them up.I don't use them anymore for the reasons you described.I went through many of them and found new ones too stiff.I would boil them for hours to soften them and apply olive oil or vasilene.Yes,I realize oil will destroy them in time,but I consider them as throwaways when they crack or turn gummy.I make my own colon tubes from surgical tubing and silicone gasline tubing to save money

Treetop: I find the F32 60" clear silicon colon tube works fine for me - and I can take the full length without it crimping.

I keep hearing people describe the damage oils do to rubber colon tubes and at first I didn't use anything containing petroleum derivitives. I had problems with water soluble lubricants because they would washed off by the water in the colon so I decided to use vaseline and thought that if the rubber deteriorated I would replace it. To my surprise my colon tubes have lasted for more than ten years.

Twobagger, you said you boil them for hours? Does that work? In other words, thinking of the 48fr tube, if I boiled it for 3 or 4 hours would that soften it up? And does it stay soft?

or do I have to boil it every time I am going to use it?

Also, isn't gasoline tubing stiff? And surgical tubing, seems like the end would not have a smooth end and would be painfull?

Can you elaborate?

Treetop41pic;When I said I would boil the colon tube for hours I meant to say I boil the colon tube before each enema to soften them up,not all at one time.Eventually the colon tube would be sofe enough to use without heating.However,I have found that once you get the tubes soft enough to work deep into your butt you will notice in time the tube will begin to deteriate and become too soft.It all depends on how much you use them.In most cases,I would get about a year or two.Of course,I did enemas every three or four days so that could be the reason why the colon tube didn't last long.Today I use surgical tubing or silicone gasline tubing.Surgical tubing doesn't need softening up,however, they have to be replaced after a year or two.Gasline tubing will last a liftime.

Silicone gasline tubing is very soft but does not kink easily. To solve the rough end problem I would insert a short piece of surgical tubing over the end of the silicone tubing.The surgical tubing would be turned outside in using a homemade tool to give the tube a nice round comfortable end for insertion into your butt.For colon tubes made from surgical tubing I like to insert various sizes of craft beads into the tube to made a nob like end,making sure all the holes are lined up.To make a small side hole about one and a quarter inch from the end of the tubing,I would use a Dremel rotery tool with a small grinder bit to cut the hole.

It seems to me the spaces between the beads INSIDE the tubing would be impossible to clean.

Susie;After each enema session I clean the ends of my colon tubes with Q -Tips through the front and side holes and then run hot water through the tubes making sure there is no feces left.I also dip the tube ends into a cup of diluted bleach then rinse again with hot water.So far,so good.

Rather than a too-stiff rubber F48, I find an F32 30" closed end silicone colon tube works better - as shown in my Gallery "Your Enema is ready" photo e74 and at http://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/LatexFree-Silicone-Colon-Tubes-For-Home-Enema-Kits-p/0HColonTubes.htm

- Win

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Susie;After each enema session I clean the ends of my colon tubes with Q -Tips through the front and side holes and then run hot water through the tubes making sure there is no feces left.I also dip the tube ends into a cup of diluted bleach then rinse again with hot water.So far,so good.

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I was referring to the spaces that exist BETWEEN the beads, not the lumen of the beads.

Susie;The side hole is between the beads.Probblem solved.

Let the good times FLOW

Treetopx4lpic (or anyone): where did you order your 48fr colon tube? I’ve searched and not found them on sale anywhere.

The link that treetopx4lpic gives in this thread sells a 42fr. I have a 2 foot version and like it so much I'm wanting a 4 footer. Isn't that the way addictions go? I like to send in a solution of "two Old Goats" soap, salt, soda, and often alovera. Lots of lube is needed and prefered. After all, we don't want to wear it out!

I have had the same problem with my 48fr tube. thanks for all the advise on how to soften it a little. Don't use mine often because I have to put it in myself. I have found that if I can locate the point where the tube is getting stuck I can apply a pressure from the outside to get the tube pointed in the right direction. My hangup point is usually going from the decending to the transvers colon. That part of the colon has a slight loop to it. Got the idea from what the doctor has to do when reaching that point during a colonoscopy.

This is from health-information-fitness

Many people find that if they inject a few ounces of oil ( 4 to 6ozs.) into the rectum before they insert the colon tube, may have less trouble with the tube insertion. If you are going to use oil for colon tube lubrication, the best oil to use is Extra-virgin Olive Oil.

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Years ago I bought a 48 French Colon Tube from Outfit in Calif.

They sold enema and related, not med group but sexually oriented.

Had a enema equipment collector friend in NJ. Nice guy.

We wrote back and forth, exchanged literature, traded equipment.

He wanted the 48 Fr. tube in trade. It was a Novelty to me, never

used. I guess he tried it, PUNCTURED his rectum. Called 911,

went to ER. Luckily he survived.

Read the above comments. Be careful.

I have a 34 Fr tube, looking at a 36 Fr one.

FYI, Optimal Health Network has silicone colon tubes 42 FR, lengths 24, 36 & 48 inches. Prices from $29 to $43.

http://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/LatexFree-Silicone-Colon-Tubes-For-Home-Enema-Kits-p/0HColonTubes.htm

I would like to thank the people on this site for your helpful suggestion on using my 48" 42FR colon tube. I soaked it in hot water in the sink for about 30 minutes than injected a little mineral oil when I first inserted it. When it got hung up at the usual place (at the transistion between the decending and transverse colon) I pumped in a little more oil. I have been able to get the tub in all the way twice now. The feeling when it moved into the asending colon was very nice and I let the water flow in a continuious enema switching between hot and cold water until both of my 5 qt bottles were empty.

This is the first time I've been able to get it that far.

Again thanks for the help.

I would like some input as to what size colon tubes do people use? Also where to

get a large size? 48" seems to be NLA.

Just an FYI for anyone linking to the Optimal Health Network links below looking for a 42Fr silicone colon tube. They apparently no longer carry them. The links shows only a 32Fr tube. I purchased a 30" one recently and found it to be an outstanding product. It's stiff enough that it does not kink but supple enough so that it easily goes around the bends in my colon. I can easily insert it nearly the entire 30".

We also have a 32 Fr colon tube purchased from Optimal Health. Both my wife and I have had good results using this tube. As stated below I have no trouble inserting the entire 30 inches.

If you want thick colon tubes the place to look is now www.siliconenozzles.com