@cat58:NG tubes are not really more dangerous than catheters! Sure the procedure must not be take lightly, but can be done by someone well trained without any big risk. But I really understand you can be in trouble with this!All kind of invasive procedure must be done only with a good knowledge of it.
Note that what is referred to as an "NG tube"--at least in the US--is not a feeding tube, it is a GI evacuation catheter.A feeding tube is similar to a dobhoff tube. I've never had an NG, but I have had a dobhoff-type tube for an enteroclysis.A dobhoff is a weighted tube and it is threaded down into the duodenum; it has a lead weight in the bottom and is placed under fluoro. There is a guidewire down the tube (usually coated with teflon) to help with placement. When I worked in the field, we would put a surgical staple in a pt's cheek and tie the dobhoff tube to it with a suture.
NG is nasogastric. OG is oral gastric.In a clinical setting the nurse puts the patient into a high fowlers position. The tube is well lubricated and is passed through the larger nostril of the nose. The patient is usually given water or ice chips and is instructed to swallow. There are several tubes but the two most common are the Salem and the Levin. The Salem is a double lumen tube and the Levin is a single lumen tube. Levin tubes are often used to get medications into the stomach where as Salem tubes are often used to get contents out of the stomach. I've had both and much prefer the Levin.
I've had both Salem and Dobhoff tubes due to real heath needs while inpatient. The very first time I had a tube down, I had c.Diff (the least of my problems). I was very nauseous. Now, any time I need an NG tube, the initial (and usually temporary) gagginess that is to be expected from the insertion of the tube stays with me until it can come out.
I must admit I have zero desire in repeating my NG experience some years ago. I was in the hospital for the work up of a fever of unknown cause. I had nasogastric washings for tuberculosis three mornings in a row. It was terrible. The nasal pain, the choking and the gagging were unbelievable! I can't imagine wanting to do this. I've done my share of placing them at work also. It can be dangerous if put into the trachea. They can penetrate the brain if misdirected. My advice is to leave this to real life medical situations.
I am with liquidsky, I have had this done several times during hospitalizations, and it is one of the most UNPLEASANT procedures imaginable! Playing with the other end of my digestive system is great, but NG tubes to me are legalized torture. No way for play!
That is a serious deep throat.btw Dobhoffs are used for small intestine enema, drop it in the duodenum. .damn spell check. .the thing after your stomach. I think they use something like peg but with contrast so you stomach is bypassed.its ugly, too much radiation, patients are amazingly compliant
I had this done in my early 30's for a bleeding stomach ulcer. An FP resident inserted the tube and it was very painful when the tube made the turn up my nose and down into my esophagus, then the gagging started. He got it inserted to the bottom of my stomach and got no blood extracted from it and removed it.When I had my bowel resection I woke up with an NG tube in me and it stayed there for about 5 days. It wasn't too bad upon withdrawal. I have no desire to have one of these inserted again. I've also had an endoscope inserted in my mouth, down into my stomach and it was no big deal, as they sprayed my throat with xylocaine and eliminated the gagging.
I am not a med pro but I have pushed a 5/16 OD latex tube in my nose and swallowed it. It is wonderfully unpleasant masochistic experience, I had to repeat it on several occasions . When the tube was in the stomach and location was confirmed with air injection I injected bulb full of Epson salt solution.Castor oil is my favorite laxative, but foul taste is one of the reasons I love it straight. Also in my "clinic" all the tubes are reusable and oil is not good for them. Because I did the NG to myself I could feel where the tube was going, I could stop any time if I was choking etc. If the NG is done for profit , with stiff tube forced fast into fighting or unconscious patient anything can go wrong and the bill could be very high indeed! I would not force NG to anybody and I would not let any professional do it to me. I do not advocate NG tubes, You have to be very very special boy or girl to do it to yourself.Play safeI hope you can understand my broken English
I only had a Nasogastric tube put in me once my Dr thought I was bleeding in my stomach so it was used to suction out the blood, that was one very uncomfortable procedure I would not like having done again.
I would have to advise caution with self treading a nasogastric tube due to the risk of lung placement and pneumothorax as well as aspiration, perforation of the oesophagus or the brain, retropharyngeal abscess or parotitis. So in a play setting this can be a very dangerous procedure and should not really be done . Would you be able to detect and treat yourself or the person .In addition the use of air or litmus paper ( PH testing ) is no longer an accurate test for identifying correct NG placement as you can get false positive .
I used to sell a formula for N.G. tube feedings, called Isocal. We called on dietary depts. to get approval for the hospital to purchase it. I have seen a few patients in their beds with an N.G. tube up their nose and a large bag with a milk-like substance hanging from an IV stand. Looks like a disposable enema bag at first. The substance is slowly dripped like an IV into their stomachs.
I had this treatment for like a year when i was 10 years old. of course i did not enjoy it back then and i agree with RM1993: you should leave this kind of stuff to the professionals.And if you still want to do it: i guess its less dangerous to do it to yourself, since you will feel it, if things are going the wrong way. to prevent aspiration have a glas of water with a straw while inserting the tube. the epiglottis will be closed while you swallow and the tube will find the way into your esophagus.but still: do not do it.
Like a lot of other medplay, NG and OG is not safe to do @ home... But, as Marek said above, doing to itself is a not too bad solution.I do it very often and also like this treatment. After inserted, it's not too unpleasant, and I like to feel the way my stomach will become slowly full. I also like to get castor oil (and/or other diuretic) that way. It's the best way to take medications without control !
Yes have had it done on me a few times by my girlfriend who is a R.N. and knows what she is doing, would suggest a professional perform this and remember always "Safe play is fun play".
While I'm all for people playing safely and sanely...why would anyone get off on putting an NG tube in? The stuff that could go wrong outweigh the kinky-ness of it.Specula in various orifices, sure, but offer up an NG tube? Nah, I'll pass. Leave this to the professionals, folks.
I have an NG tube in at present for feeding as I'm in hospital .I really hate getting them in , hate being fed via one too.They make me gag often .I'd never recommended one for play . A horror story happened to me in real life whilst getting one inserted in hospital . I spent a good week in intensive care , very ill .I never have recovered properly from that incident . The mental scars it has left too, will live with me until my dying day.Nikki
There has been multiple post on this topic highlightening the dangers of Nasogastric tiube (NG) insertion. even in a professional setting with experience medical personnel trained in their placements things do go wrong as stated by Niknoks:. A horror story happened to me in real life whilst getting one inserted in hospital . I spent a good week in intensive care , very ill .I never have recovered properly from that incident . The mental scars it has left too will live with me until my dying day.I too have seen the after effects when it all goes wrong , so as others have said , leave this out of the play area.Switchablesusie said it so succinctly:Good luck to all you amateurs.DON'T KILL ANYBODY
I love the loss of control too... here's a vid I enjoy of a girl having an NG Tube inserted...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXzE6-PG-H4
The more tubes (the less control), the better. But I would not let anbody try that on me. And I would not try that on myself or anybody else either.Either I am too careful or I am just too scared.
I can add a few things to the smart people who have already responded. People who play with equipment like this are idiots and just asking for trouble. Let me know when you are done so I know whether to send the short but or the ambulance to your "patient", or the "get away" car or the police car to you. I will keep 911 on speed dial for those of you who wish to play like that though. Better safe than sorry. GrrrrrMashie