Forced Physical Examinations

Until late 80s the Swedish School law stated that every pupil from 7 to 19 was obliged to submit to physical exams. Maybe not violently, but still everyone was in some, or many senses forced to comply.

Only in a role-play situation for me. Otherwise it would essentially be assault/rape.

Mesterton: It is not uncommon for school systems to mandate regular physical examinations, be it by their own nurse or physician or by the student's regular practitioner. In fact, it is also required for employment in some countries such as France.

I think that the question was not about that, but rather about some invasive forms of examination forced upon people, including by physical force.

I mentioned gynecological exams conducted, if necessary by physical force, on "wayward girls" and girls who had been sexually assaulted. I've also heard of girls taken to the gynecologist by their mother, against their will, after the mother suspected they had had intercourse.

Somewhere on Zity somebody told the following episode, I think from the 1970s in the US. She was in hospital, aged 14.

The procedure was that patients under 15 (or was it 16?) were in the pediatric ward. But another procedure was that in the pediatric ward temperatures were to be taken rectally. And another procedure is that patients are not allowed to insert the thermometer themselves. And another procedure is that pediatric patients cannot refuse a medical action or examination and can be subdued by force if necessary.

Consequence: when the nurse came and asked her to bare her bottom for temperature, she refused. The nurse looked annoyed and a bit embarrassed, but clearly pointed out to the girl that she could not refuse and that if she did, then the nurse would simply call for help and she would be held down. The girl complied.

This sounds both absurd (why take a rectal temperature on a 14 year old teenager?!) and realistic (absurdity and indignity are common with bureaucracies).

Thinking about that topic, I have to admit, that there are generally forced exams in the childrens, teenaged and school time: I remember the yearly school exam, many different exams by the paediatrician, other doctors and at the hospital, about what the doctors, nurses and parents decided but what I didn´t like. And later there followed the exams for the military service, at the military hospital (in Germany called "Musterung", which went horrible and so embarrassing for me!) and later again by starting and finishing the alternative military service, which were completely forced exams, because they told me that I would be brought there by police when I don´t go to them. Afterwards I had several company physicals by starting and finishing the training for the job. I only had the chance not to do the job when I didn´t want to go there, but is this really a decision? For me they were forced exams and most went bad for me, too, although I understand the necessity...

I would think that it is an extremely rare situation where a physical exam might actually be forced upon you. And forced, as in, you're held down or restrained in some way. An exam in prison or in a mental hospital might be the only cases that I can think of. On the other hand, if we replace the word "forced" with "required", that's an entirely different story. There are a lot of cases where a physical exam is required in order to do something: Attend a school, get a job, get insurance, etc. But none of those are forced upon you, as in, you're being held down while the exam takes place. If you don't want to take the required exam in order to attend a particular school, then guess what? You don't attend that school. If you don't want to take the pre-employment exam required for a particular job -- you don't get that job. We all have choices. But we do need to all deal with the consequences of those choices.

I personally dont like force

JimmyJohnson: Not only those. I gave several examples involving children or teenagers...

JimmyJohnson: Not only those. I gave several examples involving children or teenagers...

Understood. But forcing someone (regardless of their age) to undergo some type of exam is very rare. I'm not saying that it never happens -- there are always exceptions to every rule. But I just don't see any evidence that forcing an exam on someone to the point where they are held down during the exam is widespread.

I asume we´re talking about roleplaying situations here.

if that´s the case, then i´m absolutely into

I asume we´re talking about roleplaying situations here.

if that´s the case, then i´m absolutely into

In this section well talk about realistic scenarios and situations. A forced medical exam in a non RP situation is rather unpleasant to say the least.