Enema’s brought up in conversation.

How does one broach this subject in conversation?

I wish I knew. Even joking about an enema, everyone presumes you are a pervert. It would be so nice to have some "water cooler" talk about enemas. You certainly talk about your colonoscopy, latest surgery, latest illness, but never enemas.

Jagson

I will bring up the subject of enemas when discussing my health with others.Being 72 years young,slim and active makes it easy for me to brag about my enjoyment and benefits of enemas.Who can argue about something if they have never experianced an enema.You certaintly would not bring up the subject of enemas in a bar with a bunch of drinking buddies,that could be an ambarrasing scene,but your relatives and friends who intellegent might understand the health benefits of enemas.

Let the good times flow. w/m 72yrs/W.MA

I have a client. One day I decided to leave the Amber Bag hanging in the bathroom. I had this bag every Thursday in the shower hanging upside down, with the colon tube hanging over the hook.

I mentioned to her that coffee enemas are really nice alternative healing tool during a massage session. She then asked me if I used coffee, she noticed the bag in shower.

I told her I do this once a week. Taking in about 2-4 good coffee enemas that day. A somewhat sober look came over her, then she kinda hymmm hauged around a bit, a little red in the cheeks, and asked If I would ever consider teaching her about these.

Well that next week, she was coming over for a normal 1.5 hour body session. Next to my table I had the coffee enema Bag full and hanging, with the silicone tube ready. I didn't tell her.

The sheets were laid, the lights low, gloves out, tube well lubed and waiting. She entered the room, and turned, and said WOW I was not expecting this today, but Oh Well I'll have to be ready sooner or later, so I quess it's today.

Now she is Hooked, Lined, and Sinkered 😃 I help her every 2 weeks. She won't buy any bags for her self, she said it's cheaper this way, and besides where else can one go and get a massage and an enema in the same day.

Here is an easy way to begin a conversation about enemas, if indirectly. First, though, let me say that just bringing up enemas in almost any context is not likely to make as much of an impact on your friends as you probably imagine: it just isn't that big a deal for most people. I've always been open in promoting enemas for all kinds of purposes, and in my own use of them, too. A few friends have responded positively in varying and even surprising degrees - but those who don't just might comment of me jocularly that 'Of course, you're kind of weird about enemas' but none have run off screaming or hidden away their children when I'm around!

Anyway, I've posted before that in the last fifteen years we have come to the surprising knowledge that the enteric nervous system in the intestines manages the great bulk of neurotransmitters in our bodies - that includes what we think of as mood agents or brain chemicals - and that these compounds have primary roles as essential components of our immune systems and apparently only secondarily as mood agents. However, the 'we' that have come to know this is pretty much limited to endocrinologists and a few who really follow news about bottoms - but it is nonetheless well established.

This puts a different slant on a lot of enema lore. Ancient ayurvedic medicine prescribed enemas for migraine relief, not because they had anything to do with constipation, but because the vital essences of some sort were stuck in the intestinal chakra instead of getting released up to the brain chakra where they were needed. Substitute neurotransmitters instead of essences and you have a rather prescient explanation there. If enemas could be effective in that way, a similar mechanism can explain the very widespread observation that they almost immediately mitigate moodiness and irritability - and explain it a lot better than the idea that it is all connected to the physical discomfort of colon distension or just plain false observation. More: a girl in my college dorm tended to panic attacks, which she could feel slowly coming on; but she found by accident that taking a strong laxative suppository at the first sign would deflect the panic attck. We assumed it was just focusing all her energy and attention on pooping, but now I'd say the bowel stimulation worked by a more direct physiological mechanism in stimulating release of these agents.

This could also explain why enemas have been widely observed to minimize the severity of common illnesses not directly associated with constipation, despite deprecation of the idea by mainstream medicine. And this is at a time when the immune system roles of these intestinal neurochemicals are being studied more intensively and widely: for example, a study has recently begun to look at the immune-system roles of these agents as adjunct cancer treatments.

To be clear, there's not much written about the role of enemas or suppositories in stimulating the release of enteric neurotransmitters. That's largely speculation but based on common observation that has otherwise been simply ignored. A few medical researchers have offered suggestions very directly: that when the bowels are happy the neurotransmitters get distributed as they should be and block the sites for viral attachment; but when there's any problem in the intestines - which needs special attention and protection by immune agents because of its roles in waste and nutrient exchange in and out of the body - then the agents don't get distributed and the whole immune system suffers.

That last paragraph is speculative, but the vital role of the enteric system in management of neurotransmitters/mood-agents and the immune system is established if not widely known. Start by reading on the subject; the somewhat popular (if dry) introductory book is still 'The Second Brain' (1999) by Dr. Michael Gershon, a medical dean at Columbia.

So here is my point. It is hard to bring up enemas at church socials in any context. It is an awful lot easier to bring up immune systems. It is even easy to bring up surprising news about the immune system - even when it gets into one's insides and, cautiously, down there. You can get as deeply into intestines - so to speak - as you wish, reading your partners in the conversation, and even into enemas and suppositories. Chances are that one of them will remark that maybe that is why an enema made him feel so much better the other day even before you bring it up. At very least, it asserts a clear and interesting physiological basis for whatever you say about enemas, instead of assuming that you are in effect saying that this is how terribly weird you are....

-jillie

Your right. I've known for over 20 years that a major part of our immune systems is located in out intestines.

Happy flushing.

I thought about this incident when doing the laundry early this morning, and decided to take a moment to post it.

I’m often rather wordy when I post here, but sometimes hardly any conversation is enough to go a long ways. A few years ago a recent neighbor was visiting - a lady just a bit younger than I - just getting to know each other better by chatting over coffee and pastry. Soon my dryer buzzed that its load was done and the neighbor offered to help me fold clothes while we chatted. When we put towels away in my bathroom she saw two large, clear plastic boxes of bottoms things which I keep clearly labeled as such in my bathroom closet. She rather gasped at my assortment and asked whether we had bowel problems. I told her simply that we liked to keep our rears cleansed and refreshed and happy. ‘I guess!’ she replied, ‘Very happy!’ Then she started talking a bit about enemas while we did the rest of the folding: she used to use them regularly and kind of liked that, but neither her husband nor her two boyfriends before that were at all into that area, so she had done nothing that way in years; she thought she should probably try to get back to those treatments again because they had made her feel so refreshed and empty and clean besides keeping her regular. Then the subject changed completely.

After the clothes were all put away I asked her to help me set up the massage table from my closet. She made a couple of comments about what an indulgent pleasure a massage table must be if we used it often, but mostly we were talking about the neighborhood by then. Then I went back to the boxes she had seen in my bathroom and got out a brand new disposable vinyl enema bag. (Some years ago I picked up maybe thirty of them in a lot from a burned down drugstore.) She stopped and stared while I unfolded it, but I told her to go on with what she was telling me. She did, but slowly and very attentively now to what I was doing, as I mixed a pitcher of solution and filled the bag and brought it to the massage bench. She gasped 'Oh!' and then she dropped silent and her eyes seemed to pop out.

‘Well, come on!’ I encouraged her. I hoped I had read her body language right.

‘Oh, my gosh!’ she exclaimed - ‘I guess that’s one way to get to really know a neighbor fast!’

That’s all the conversation it took. She was up on the table in just a moment and left the rest to me, with hardly any more talking and not even a single question to me. I took her through a little pre-enema, a full soapy bag, and a rinse that came with a brief but luxurious massage. She said afterward that nothing had ever relieved her stress and relaxed her as rapidly and completely as that session, which we have repeated now and then, as her husband has not yet been persuaded even now. She said it was also the first time anyone had ever stayed with her on the toilet. At first she thought to ask me to leave the bathroom, but then she just decided that I knew what I was doing and put herself in my hands, and was glad she did.

-jillie

Shortly after getting out of the hospital for surgery, I found myself being asked about my stay. One comment that seemed to evoke some dialogue was "I tried to be a good patient and I learned that you never argue with a nurse carrying an enema bag". A few people expressed their own enema dislikes or at least acknowledged that they had also experienced enema treatments. Not many seemed inclined to indicate positive experiences.

One friend replied that she got them while in labor and found them miserable under those circumstances. I told her that a good warm enema from an experienced nurse was one of a few positive experiences during my stay. She seemed to understand.

I've recently decided not to worry about my fetish...I've come up with a comment that usually starts an interesting conversation:

"Well, You REALLY find out who your friends are when needing an enema!"

Say that and watch what happens....pretty funny.

the boxcar

Wow. You've put your finger on some important points. Thanks.

I find that there are more people who do enemas than expected. Sometimes not as seriously as some,most for cleansing, but if you bring it up in that context, most seem to be very receptive. Unfortunately, many equate enemas with a scat fetish and when they hear it is often quite the opposite, it opens the door for some intersting conversations.

Lately the only times I have heard "enema" in conversation have been in relation to alternative cancer treatments. I am not suggesting that as a conversation ploy, but it's true.

I can't tell you how many husbands have "come to life" when I mention giving enemas to my GF. 😉 More often than not I end up "treating" their wives. With the nozzle I mean. 😜

What does it mean? Make’s one conjure up all kind’s of erotic thoughts. Three week’s ago during a conversation with a attractive woman some issue’s about health that was unrelated with anything to do with constipation or bowel problems .Out of the blue she said ( I know this is gross, but have you tried a purified water enema?)I looked quickly at my enemata and responded ,yea we know that death begins in the colon. From then on nothing else was said. But It kind of made me wonder if she could be one of us. She would make a pretty asset.No pun intended. Anyone else had this happen?

We used to have some neighbors across the street. They were seniors in their 80's. One day we were talking before they sold their home. They mentioned about using enemas for health maintenance. I also failed to ask questions and have no way to contact them for further discussion. If you know how to contact her, why not tell her that you were curious about enemas and would like to know more about them.

When I was younger I worked at a convenience store. In the back room I was putting away the fleet enemas and started a discussion with a co-worker about the health benefits I had "heard" of. He agreed and mentioned that he took one a week. His level of honesty surprised me, and my response was quite self incriminating, which lead to his response - "I was joking". Quite embarrassing to me as an 18 year old male, although I'm suspicious that it was a cover up.

I try to bring the word enema into any conversation that deals with health.

Hey guys;you gotta have your followup mentaly prepared when someone brings up anything to do with enemas or colon health.I'm kicking myself in the butt for messing up.While making a purchase of some surgical tubing and a case of lube,the sweet looking clerk asked what I was using twenty feet of surgical tubing for,I told her that I had fish tank and needed to siphon the water out for cleaning.Yeah right and not bright,but I'll be going back there soon.This time.I'll be ready

With every conversation with a potentially new girl friend....I bring up health maintenance and that I believe enemas are part of a healthy regime. If they pick up on the subject, I'm home. If not then I move on to the next....Works for me.

Thanks for the replies.In the future I will listen for any opportunity's to discuss the subject more.

Well, the last post here was from 2009, but I think coffee enemas are a lot more common today than people think. With all the coffee shops, I think it would be interesting to try something about "if it tastes good, imagine how it would be in an enema." just to see what kind of reaction you'd get. You could always mention you've read they are very good for liver detox.